"I tried to coach them in the playoffs but Carter said no"

[onewoof]

3 things with this. The intent and the contract. And the negative brand image for Kiffin.

In order to get the playoff incentives, the coach would have to show intent to coach in the playoffs and the AD would have to deny that request. Of course with the portal in January, this isn't possible for either LSU or Ole Miss. It's really petty and greedy honestly.

Then the negative PR of being a self centered coach that leaves a team like this. It's damage control that's 100% fake.

I guess the thought is that people would buy the narrative around this. Because, of course, people are idiots.

 

[FlotownDawg]

Kiffin also said some Ole Miss fan tried to run him and Knox off the road. The guy is a sociopath and a habitual liar

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

He also said that State started the fight during the Egg Bowl and UMiss was just playing clean football.

Pathological liar!

 

[Villagedawg]

Hadad mentioned that habitual liar quote attributing it to JWS about Brewer. However, I believe it was Brewer who said it about Jackie.

 

[Maroon13]

Hadad mentioned that habitual liar quote attributing it to JWS about Brewer. However, I believe it was Brewer who said it about Jackie.

Yes. ...and Jackie replied with Billy can't spell habitual.

I hated Brewer. He was Freeze before there was freeze.

 

[85Bears]

3 things with this. The intent and the contract. And the negative brand image for Kiffin.

In order to get the playoff incentives, the coach would have to show intent to coach in the playoffs and the AD would have to deny that request. Of course with the portal in January, this isn't possible for either LSU or Ole Miss. It's really petty and greedy honestly.

Then the negative PR of being a self centered coach that leaves a team like this. It's damage control that's 100% fake.

I guess the thought is that people would buy the narrative around this. Because, of course, people are idiots.

Yes, his process of leaving wasn’t some emotional decision, it was guided by attorneys to maximize his contractual bonuses and avoid financial penalties.

 

[Villagedawg]

Yes. ...and Jackie replied with Billy can't spell habitual.

I hated Brewer. He was Freeze before there was freeze.

Oh yeah. That’s right!

 

[11thEagleFan]

I remember Al Davis and his overhead projector. Called Lane a habitual liar and a con artist. At the time we all thought old Al had lost it. Turns out he was ahead of the curve.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I wouldn’t believe either side.

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

Hadad mentioned that habitual liar quote attributing it to JWS about Brewer. However, I believe it was Brewer who said it about Jackie.

This is correct

 

[BulldogBlitz]

The guy is a sociopath and a habitual liar

He fit like a glove with Oxford

 

[Perd Hapley]

Kiffin also said some Ole Miss fan tried to run him and Knox off the road. The guy is a sociopath and a habitual liar

To be fair to Lane, that was actually Marty Smith, who is a dead ringer for 70% of middle aged Ole Miss fans based on wardrobe alone.

 

[CEO2044]

Does anyone else think OM may have messed up with not letting him coach?

1. He’s going to poach anyway— but fair point you’d rather have him away.
2. But if he takes most of his offensive staff… how do you plug others in, in this short of a time frame? Lane is who makes the magic happen there.
3. This is your best shot at a natty and you’re electing to give it to a guy that’s never been a head coach before. This is isn’t a bowl game.
4. Lane is one of the few coaches who can challenge Kirby.
5. You also risk possibly being dropped a few spots or altogether.

I get not negotiating with terrorists. I respect the decision. But it’s more of a gamble than they are publicly admitting.

 

[HotMop]

SOB did a layover in PCB and came to my house and kicked my dog! WTF!

 

[patdog]

Does anyone else think OM may have messed up with not letting him coach?

1. He’s going to poach anyway— but fair point you’d rather have him away.
2. But if he takes most of his offensive staff… how do you plug others in, in this short of a time frame? Lane is who makes the magic happen there.
3. This is your best shot at a natty and you’re electing to give it to a guy that’s never been a head coach before. This is isn’t a bowl game.
4. Lane is one of the few coaches who can challenge Kirby.
5. You also risk possibly being dropped a few spots or altogether.

I get not negotiating with terrorists. I respect the decision. But it’s more of a gamble than they are publicly admitting.

Uh no. They weren’t going past 2nd round anyway. And really what’s the difference between a 1st round loss (assuming they lose) and a 2nd round loss? Saw a clip of I think Van Pelt who said it well. This is like the husband telling his wife that he’s leaving for the neighbors wife, who everyone hates, but wants to stay for Christmas. No get out, we’ll have Christmas with the ones who want to be here.

 

[Dawg Raid]

Does anyone else think OM may have messed up with not letting him coach?

1. He’s going to poach anyway— but fair point you’d rather have him away.
2. But if he takes most of his offensive staff… how do you plug others in, in this short of a time frame? Lane is who makes the magic happen there.
3. This is your best shot at a natty and you’re electing to give it to a guy that’s never been a head coach before. This is isn’t a bowl game.
4. Lane is one of the few coaches who can challenge Kirby.
5. You also risk possibly being dropped a few spots or altogether.

I get not negotiating with terrorists. I respect the decision. But it’s more of a gamble than they are publicly admitting.

The players said they wouldn’t play for him if he was leaving

 

[11thEagleFan]

Does anyone else think OM may have messed up with not letting him coach?

1. He’s going to poach anyway— but fair point you’d rather have him away.
2. But if he takes most of his offensive staff… how do you plug others in, in this short of a time frame? Lane is who makes the magic happen there.
3. This is your best shot at a natty and you’re electing to give it to a guy that’s never been a head coach before. This is isn’t a bowl game.
4. Lane is one of the few coaches who can challenge Kirby.
5. You also risk possibly being dropped a few spots or altogether.

I get not negotiating with terrorists. I respect the decision. But it’s more of a gamble than they are publicly admitting.

No. The only people who are saying this are LSU fans and CAA clients. Bill Cowher absolutely tore into Kiffin and his request to coach the CFP yesterday.

 

[CEO2044]

The players said they wouldn’t play for him if he was leaving

Yes, the marriage would have had to have broken up much more amicably than it did.

 

[CEO2044]

Uh no. They weren’t going past 2nd round anyway. And really what’s the difference between a 1st round loss (assuming they lose) and a 2nd round loss? Saw a clip of I think Van Pelt who said it well. This is like the husband telling his wife that he’s leaving for the neighbors wife, who everyone hates, but wants to stay for Christmas. No get out, we’ll have Christmas with the ones who want to be here.

I’m not saying I think they were going to win. But they think they have a shot— and really you have to go into it with your best shot no matter how likely it is. Games are played for a reason. I don’t care for Lane, but he’s a great coach. Weak schedule but nearly upset GA, who I never count out.

 

[patdog]

I’m not saying I think they were going to win. But they think they have a shot— and really you have to go into it with your best shot no matter how likely it is. Games are played for a reason. I don’t care for Lane, but he’s a great coach. Weak schedule but nearly upset GA, who I never count out.

He would have been a much bigger distraction if they’d let him coach. And a lot of players would have probably revolted. UMiss had no choice. You can’t let him coach after he left.

 

[CEO2044]

He would have been a much bigger distraction if they’d let him coach. And a lot of players would have probably revolted. UMiss had no choice. You can’t let him coach after he left.

All in how it was handled. It certainly would with the way it happened. And to be fair to your point, Kiffin caused that weeks before it could probably be repaired. I see both sides.

 

[DerHntr]

Lane saying he wanted to coach was nothing more than him trying badly to look like the good guy. No one bought that for a second.

 

[Chesusdog]

I remember Al Davis and his overhead projector. Called Lane a habitual liar and a con artist. At the time we all thought old Al had lost it. Turns out he was ahead of the curve.

Both were true.

 

[Chesusdog]

Does anyone else think OM may have messed up with not letting him coach?

1. He’s going to poach anyway— but fair point you’d rather have him away.
2. But if he takes most of his offensive staff… how do you plug others in, in this short of a time frame? Lane is who makes the magic happen there.
3. This is your best shot at a natty and you’re electing to give it to a guy that’s never been a head coach before. This is isn’t a bowl game.
4. Lane is one of the few coaches who can challenge Kirby.
5. You also risk possibly being dropped a few spots or altogether.

I get not negotiating with terrorists. I respect the decision. But it’s more of a gamble than they are publicly admitting.

If UM let Kiffin stay for playoffs they'd be mocked, and rightfully so, as cuckolds. The fact he bitched that they wouldnt let him just shows how twisted and narcissistic his mind is.

 

[CEO2044]

If UM let Kiffin stay for playoffs they'd be mocked, and rightfully so, as cuckolds. The fact he bitched that they wouldnt let him just shows how twisted and narcissistic his mind is.

I absolutely agree that Lane is a narcissistic, awful person— I’ve said it about as long as I’ve known who he was. I’m no fan, trust me.

The fact is— OM gained a lot by hiring him. They would be nowhere near where they are without him. They could have played the, “thank you, Coach” game and just done it when they realized it was futile in keeping him— at least a week before this weekend. They couldn’t because they don’t want their image messed up that they aren’t the job they think they are. Both sides IMO are to blame.

Regardless, there’s no chance without him. Their best bet now is to pray a few of them will come back to piece something together— which still defeats their line of “no coming back if you leave”. They’re cucks in that scenario, also.

 

[onewoof]

The players said they wouldn’t play for him if he was leaving

Keep in mind that round 1 games and round 2 end in December in time for the portal window in January. Watch for many of the players to trade-up in the portal after they display their talents. Imagine both playing in the semis and deciding who on your team is staying and going and who else might be coming in. This is wild.

• Round 1: Dec 19th & Dec 20th
• Round 2: Dec 31st & Jan 1st
• Portal opens: Jan 2nd - Jan 16th
• Semifinals: Jan 8th & Jan 9th
• Championship: Jan 19th

One more note: 2 of the 3 games on Dec 20th are shown only on TNT, truTV, HBO Max. "Warner Brothers Discovery" bought exclusivity of all but 1 game on this day. I shall be signing up for the Sling Day Pass on Dec 20th.

 

[Chesusdog]

Keep in mind that round 1 games and round 2 end in December in time for the portal window in January. Watch for many of the players to trade-up in the portal after they display their talents. Imagine both playing in the semis and deciding who on your team is staying and going and who else might be coming in. This is wild.

• Round 1: Dec 19th & 20th
• Round 2: Dec 31st & Jan 1st
• Portal opens: Jan 2nd - Jan 16th
• Semifinals: Jan 8th & Jan 9th
• Championship: Jan 19th

This REALLY needs to be adjusted. Either move the playoff schedule up, the portal window back, or both.

 

[onewoof]

One can also speculate that OM does not owe Kiffin any year end salary for this season. I would guess that any salary will be withheld and denied, not just bonuses.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Uh no. They weren’t going past 2nd round anyway. And really what’s the difference between a 1st round loss (assuming they lose) and a 2nd round loss?

To me, that’s the sticking point. It’s an overt admission that they did not think they could win the title even with him coaching, so why allow the circus to continue? And there’s a 95% chance they were right, but they still decided to give away that remaining 5% to make it 100%. By “they”, I mean Carter, the Chancellor, the players, etc. Whoever collectively made the decision.

And regardless of what anyone’s sources say, I can tell you with certainty that there’s no way that the locker room was 100% for or 100% against him coaching the CFP. In today’s times where everyone is essentially on a 1-year commitment and chasing the biggest purse every single season, I guarantee you Kiffin had some sympathetic ears. Maybe not everybody, maybe not even 50% of everybody. But anyone who’s not a hypocrite could honestly empathize with his situation a little bit. Doesn’t mean he’s an angel or handled things perfectly with the departure, but I bet he really did want to coach in the CFP.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Either move the playoff schedule up

Can’t. Hard to really do it any sooner than 2 weeks after conference championships which is where it is now. Way too much has to be logistically planned for team and fan travel, site prep, actual practices, etc. Best case scenario is you pull it up one week which doesn’t really solve anything….CFP still doesn’t end before portal opens. And you still have high school signing day a month before all that.

the portal window back, or both.

Can’t. Portal window has already been pushed back once, and it was deliberately pushed back about as late as it possibly could be to allow players to register and enroll at their new school for the following semester. Remember, we’re still pretending this is “college football”, and have to abide by academic calendars and such.

There is only one potentially viable solution to this problem. Start the season in early mid-August, ditch one of the two open dates, go back to an 10 or 11 game regular season schedule (depending on final CFP size….16, 24, 32, etc.), and wrap the whole thing up by December 31st. Basically zero chance of this. Only other option is to ax the transfer portal entirely. Also zero chance. It’s an unsolvable problem.

 

[L4MANDW]

Lane saying he wanted to coach was nothing more than him trying badly to look like the good guy. No one bought that for a second.

That and, “It’s not about the money”, but it was about the $. He was after those post season win incentives, which oddly enough, now it’s reported that LSU will actually pay to him if om keeps winning. 1 million extra, how odd is that?

 

[patdog]

If UM let Kiffin stay for playoffs they'd be mocked, and rightfully so, as cuckolds. The fact he bitched that they wouldnt let him just shows how twisted and narcissistic his mind is.

Also, the fact his contract at LSU already included the bonuses he’d miss shows they knew all along that of course he world’s be coaching Mississippi in the playoffs.

 

[patdog]

Can’t. Hard to really do it any sooner than 2 weeks after conference championships which is where it is now. Way too much has to be logistically planned for team and fan travel, site prep, actual practices, etc. Best case scenario is you pull it up one week which doesn’t really solve anything….CFP still doesn’t end before portal opens. And you still have high school signing day a month before all that.



Can’t. Portal window has already been pushed back once, and it was deliberately pushed back about as late as it possibly could be to allow players to register and enroll at their new school for the following semester. Remember, we’re still pretending this is “college football”, and have to abide by academic calendars and such.

There is only one potentially viable solution to this problem. Start the season in early mid-August, ditch one of the two open dates, go back to an 10 or 11 game regular season schedule (depending on final CFP size….16, 24, 32, etc.), and wrap the whole thing up by December 31st. Basically zero chance of this. Only other option is to ax the transfer portal entirely. Also zero chance. It’s an unsolvable problem.

One portal in May. Early signing day in August, late signing day in March. Problem solved.

 

[patdog]

To me, that’s the sticking point. It’s an overt admission that they did not think they could win the title even with him coaching, so why allow the circus to continue? And there’s a 95% chance they were right, but they still decided to give away that remaining 5% to make it 100%. By “they”, I mean Carter, the Chancellor, the players, etc. Whoever collectively made the decision.

And regardless of what anyone’s sources say, I can tell you with certainty that there’s no way that the locker room was 100% for or 100% against him coaching the CFP. In today’s times where everyone is essentially on a 1-year commitment and chasing the biggest purse every single season, I guarantee you Kiffin had some sympathetic ears. Maybe not everybody, maybe not even 50% of everybody. But anyone who’s not a hypocrite could honestly empathize with his situation a little bit. Doesn’t mean he’s an angel or handled things perfectly with the departure, but I bet he really did want to coach in the CFP.

I think you’ll find very few people nationwide who have any sympathy for lame Kiffin right now. He’s getting raked over the coals by the national guys.

 

[Dawgbite]

One portal in May. Early signing day in August, late signing day in March. Problem solved.

Moving the transfer portal to may is so obvious it’s almost stupidity for it not to be this way. Some say it makes spring practice useless, so eliminate spring practice and go to a summer camp instead.

 

[$altyDawg]

Kiffen needs to man up and embrace being the villain because no one is buying the poor pitiful victim bs he's trying to peddle. Him saying it's not about the money isn't entirely a lie, because for him it's about drawing attention to himself. All this "Mississippi State broke in our locker room", "They tried to run me and Knox of the road", "Mean ol Keith Carter wouldn't let me coach in the playoffs" BS just screams of narcissism.
Combine the obnoxiousness of Steve Spurrier with the disingenuous of Hugh Freeze and you have Lane Kiffen.

 

[campshelbydog1116]

People blaming Kiffin for this mess have not been paying attention even a little bit. 2 other coaches that have teams competing for playoff spots went through the same thing and none of this happened. Why is that? Well, their school didn’t give them an ultimatum to make a decision prior to the season ending or risk not being able to coach the end of the regular season. Ole Miss admin did that and it rightfully pissed Kiffin off. Kiffin was always going to make a decision right after the season just like the rest did. The other schools needed a coach in place for signing day just like Ole Miss did. They are now all coaching their teams until the playoffs are over even after accepting jobs elsewhere because their schools know their stations in life. Ole Miss does not and threw a b*tch fit all because they found out that they are still a bottom tier job in their league. Now they won’t let him coach the playoffs for fear of poaching players but want all his assistants that are leaving with him to coach the playoffs and obviously have no fear of them poaching. Why is that? Oh, it’s because that’s not really a fear at all. It’s just them being petty because he left them. In response to this pettiness, Kiffin has told them to 17 off and not letting the assistants going with him coach OM since he can’t and everyone is buying into the BS narrative of poor old ole Miss getting taken advantage of by big bad mean old Kiffin. No, they acted like a bunch of b*tches and Kiffin threw it back in their face and they are trying to control the narrative, like always.

 

[johnson86-1]

To me, that’s the sticking point. It’s an overt admission that they did not think they could win the title even with him coaching, so why allow the circus to continue? And there’s a 95% chance they were right, but they still decided to give away that remaining 5% to make it 100%. By “they”, I mean Carter, the Chancellor, the players, etc. Whoever collectively made the decision.

And regardless of what anyone’s sources say, I can tell you with certainty that there’s no way that the locker room was 100% for or 100% against him coaching the CFP. In today’s times where everyone is essentially on a 1-year commitment and chasing the biggest purse every single season, I guarantee you Kiffin had some sympathetic ears. Maybe not everybody, maybe not even 50% of everybody. But anyone who’s not a hypocrite could honestly empathize with his situation a little bit. Doesn’t mean he’s an angel or handled things perfectly with the departure, but I bet he really did want to coach in the CFP.

I was shocked to hear the claim that players said they wouldn't play for him. Before free transfers and NIL, I could see them not wanting to play for a coach that's leaving. But virtually all of them are on one year deals, even if they have stuck for more than one year, and a huge percentage are transfers that came for money. Why would they take it personally that Kiffin is doing the same thing that they will have the opportunity to do in a month?

 

[Perd Hapley]

One portal in May. Early signing day in August, late signing day in March. Problem solved.

Portal in May doesn’t allow transfers to participate in spring practice. Rosters wouldn’t be fixed until August. Will never happen.

Yet another new cost of doing business for have-not schools is going to be overpaying to keep coaches around for the CFP, if they are fortunate enough to make it. As has been stated many times, there won’t ever be any new reform that doesn’t tilt things even further into the favor of the bluebloods.

 

[johnson86-1]

Moving the transfer portal to may is so obvious it’s almost stupidity for it not to be this way. Some say it makes spring practice useless, so eliminate spring practice and go to a summer camp instead.

Yea, I think they're going to have to do this. Between players and coaches abandoning their season while still alive in the playoffs, it probably has to change. March is probably late for high school signing day, but with how much more important the transfer portal has become than high school recruiting, I'm not sure it's a problem if high school signing is basically right after the championship game. If the championship game is over January the seond or third week in January, it seems fine having signing day be early or mid February.