If you are a Governor when you open things back up ?

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This will be our last virus if we vote Democrat this November, and do what you’re told. If you get out of line, covid-20 will put you right back on lockdown. Obey, or else.

I hope Trump wins just so I can see Andy’s reaction. Guarantee he orders flags at half mast and some special porch light color to signify that we will get through this. We will get through this together.
The only thing to be determined is how big the loss is for mr trump.
 

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I wonder if these pro-virus psychotics even understand the damage they are supporting in this nation. My guess is half of these restaurants are toast for good.

Oh how many fake medical experts have come out since this virus. Everybody is virologist these days

People under 60 giving their opinions about **** they don’t know anything about.
 
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Was in San Francisco all day. Beach was busy, but not crazy packed. Kids playing football and frisbee. Dogs running all over the place. Seemed like a pretty normal day tbh.

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I’m not saying this is false but that is $18.3 million a day. That is hard to believe.
No, it's not. This is one month, one state, one industry. The economic situation for small business is dire and the people who refuse acknowledge it are hard to understand considering where we are in this fight.


I didn't pull this from some partisan Russian bot site. It's the local business rag.
 

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It’s $4 a day per Kentuckian. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, bars. I’d say plenty believable.
But restaurants aren’t totally closed. I live in central Kentucky and every place in town has lines out to the road. And chain places are busy with pickup too. Only 2 places have closed in town. 2 Chinese restaurants both closed. So they lost 550 million with a huge drivethru business.
 

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The U.N. now projects that there will a hunger pandemic worldwide with an additional 130 million people at risk of starvation. No doubt that virus itself would be responsible for some of this absent any lockdowns; the Chicken Littles are responsible for the rest. I love it when idiot liberals yap about "it's lives vs. the economy". One of these old hens keeps parroting (when the lockdowns are lifted), Stock Market 1, Grandma 0. No, it's Chicken Little 1, 130 million starving people in the world, 0.
 
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But restaurants aren’t totally closed. I live in central Kentucky and every place in town has lines out to the road. And chain places are busy with pickup too. Only 2 places have closed in town. 2 Chinese restaurants both closed. So they lost 550 million with a huge drivethru business.
Yes. Takes a lot fewer cars to pack a drive thru than to pack a restaurant. I’d imagine higher end restaurants that pull in big bills aren’t attractive in a drive thru setting. Restaurants are likely losing a ton in alcohol sales and restaurants that convert into bars/nightlife in the evenings are being pounded and nonexistent.

People not working or working from home drives lunch crowd WAY down. This is an industry that needs to be opened up ASAP - bc you know when they do open it will be under tremendous restrictions and capacity limitations anyways.
 
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Yes. Takes a lot fewer cars to pack a drive thru than to pack a restaurant. I’d imagine higher end restaurants that pull in big bills aren’t attractive in a drive thru setting. Restaurants are likely losing a ton in alcohol sales and restaurants that convert into bars/nightlife in the evenings are being pounded and nonexistent.
I agree with that. Restaurants in Lexington and Louisville, nice sit down places are getting killed. Fast food places and your casual dining places are doing ok. Hopefully enough to stay open until they can open seating back up.
 
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Wholesale food distributors are down like 60%, which means the restaurants are at least down 40% as a lot of the distributors sell into schools.

The question is that when we get back what happens? The Spanish Flu pandemic was followed by the roaring 20’s.
 

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No, I understood your point perfectly. You are pissed because you are asked to be mildly inconvenienced for the sake of others. Sounds pretty selfish to me.

Have you tested negative for COVID-19? How do you know that you aren't an asymptomatic carrier?

Look, Beshear deserves plenty of criticism for his handling of testing and unemployment, but to get your panties in a bunch about a recommendation to wear a mask in public is silly IMO.

Wear one, don't wear one...I don't really care. But don't claim the mere suggestion is an attack on your personal freedom.
I have tested negative. So get the **** out of here with your uneducated nonsense.
 
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Yep it’s totally impractical that essentially shutting down an industry that does $9 billion a year in sales caused that industry to lose $550 million over a month in the spring. Certainly can’t believe a trade organization reporting historic data.

Meanwhile, let’s not question the models and projections people relied upon to shut the economy down and just keep tanking the economy until we’ve squashed, or is it eliminated, the curve.
 

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I wonder if these pro-virus psychotics even understand the damage they are supporting in this nation. My guess is half of these restaurants are toast for good.

Look, you didn’t build those restaurants. There’s no magic wand you can wave to bring those jobs back. We must change. We must do better.


CDC finally says Wuhan is about like the flu. Something we pretty much knew from the start.

See how dumb Andy looks this week.
 

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I live in central Kentucky and every place in town has lines out to the road. And chain places are busy with pickup too.

First statement is incorrect (except for the CKY part of which I can't verify)

Second statement is partially correct.....depends on the day.
 

anthonys735

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Wholesale food distributors are down like 60%, which means the restaurants are at least down 40% as a lot of the distributors sell into schools.

The question is that when we get back what happens? The Spanish Flu pandemic was followed by the roaring 20’s.
Correct and that's not taking in to count alcohol sales. The places lucky enough to be able to do take out or delivery are mostly just making enough to cover expenses. Only a few are thriving because they had the infrastructure to deal with this (Pizza, Chic Fil A). You're talking coffee shops, hotel restaurants and bars, all bars and this is a small state. I wonder what NYC is?

It's no Central Ky but Louisville numbers from the CJ:
Quick stats about restaurants per capita: There are 5.2 restaurants per 10,000 residents in Louisville/Jefferson County. There are 4.9 restaurants per 10,000 residents in Jefferson County. There are 2.8 restaurants per 10,000 residents in Kentucky. There are 4.4 restaurants per 10,000 residents.


You can't just say you don't believe the numbers because you don't like them. That's no different than people bitching about NYC counting all deaths as covid deaths.
 
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Correct and that's not taking in to count alcohol sales. The places lucky enough to be able to do take out or delivery are mostly just making enough to cover expenses. Only a few are thriving because they had the infrastructure to deal with this (Pizza, Chic Fil A). You're talking coffee shops, hotel restaurants and bars, all bars and this is a small state. I wonder what NYC is?

It's no Central Ky but Louisville numbers from the CJ:
Quick stats about restaurants per capita: There are 5.2 restaurants per 10,000 residents in Louisville/Jefferson County. There are 4.9 restaurants per 10,000 residents in Jefferson County. There are 2.8 restaurants per 10,000 residents in Kentucky. There are 4.4 restaurants per 10,000 residents.


You can't just say you don't believe the numbers because you don't like them. That's no different than people bitching about NYC counting all deaths as covid deaths.


All true, but at this point it has become irrelevant. Andy has proven he simply doesn't get it and/or doesn't care about the economic disaster we will have to recover from. He is in way over his head and his sheep have been fear driven to the point they would jump off High Bridge if he told them they would be safe. They adopted his "Andy at 5" reality show as gospel regardless of what the true data showed.
 
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Folks I'll keep this short. I'm a Kentucky native who moved to Sumner County, Tn about 15 years ago. It's a nice place, lots of good people.

I work in the restaurant industry and we just opened back. I've been back for 2 shifts and we are only running around 25 percent in the dining room with 4 servers and 1 bartender. To-go is still killing it, so our restaurant will survive.

We have to wear a mask, our customers are not, which is fine. In the last two days, I have literally seen 2 people walk in the door wearing a mask and that was only because they thought they had to.

Life looks like is starting to return to normal here in Sumner County. Traffic is heavy. People are out and about. More places will be open next week and hopefully we will be able to seat more people in our dining areas.

Nashville is toast however. I'm not sure it will recover. They are taking the Kentucky approach. I'm not sure if the Commonwealth will recover.

Don't live in fear. Take back your freedom.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and tyrants."--Thomas Jefferson, attorney, friend, and neighbor of my grandfather, James McGavock.
Out standing post. You elected a leader for governor and it shows.
 

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All true, but at this point it has become irrelevant. Andy has proven he simply doesn't get it and/or doesn't care about the economic disaster we will have to recover from. He is in way over his head and his sheep have been fear driven to the point they would jump off High Bridge if he told them they would be safe. They adopted his "Andy at 5" reality show as gospel regardless of what the true data showed.
Thanks for reminding he’s on at 5 today.
 

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Yes. Takes a lot fewer cars to pack a drive thru than to pack a restaurant. I’d imagine higher end restaurants that pull in big bills aren’t attractive in a drive thru setting. Restaurants are likely losing a ton in alcohol sales and restaurants that convert into bars/nightlife in the evenings are being pounded and nonexistent.

People not working or working from home drives lunch crowd WAY down. This is an industry that needs to be opened up ASAP - bc you know when they do open it will be under tremendous restrictions and capacity limitations anyways.
Do we honestly need massive restrictions? We can't wait-out a virus. Herd immunity on a large scale is needed, and that can NEVER happen if the young/healthy/less prone aren't allowed to get back to "normal" society.
 
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While other governors were tracking down materials needed for testing ours was tracking down license plate #s in church parking lots. He looked like a fool then, he looked like a fool with the whole Tupac thing, he looked like a fool calling out TN. It became obvious early on his focus was on the shutdown and not the recovery. Very short term thinking from a supposed leader.
 

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Thanks for reminding he’s on at 5 today.
Everyone knows the reason Kentucky is not opening is pure political. And it is not only Kentucky playing politics. This map shows other Democrat states are doing the same. Kentucky, North Carolina, Virginia are run by Dem governors Same with Louisiana and of all places, Kansas.

Kentucky has no business being shut down as they are. How many patients are in the Nutter Center? What hospital in Kentucky is at full capacity? To deny this is politics is La La Land. If you think keeping Kentucky closed will assure Trump gets beat, think again. Any Democrat willl beat Trump in Fayette County. Fayette County has a large university and they would vote for Hitler over Trump. But since when does Fayette county mean anything?

 
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But restaurants aren’t totally closed. I live in central Kentucky and every place in town has lines out to the road. And chain places are busy with pickup too. Only 2 places have closed in town. 2 Chinese restaurants both closed. So they lost 550 million with a huge drivethru business.

I'm a frequent bar connoisseur, so I'd like to consider myself a bit of an expert on this topic.

A lot of restaurants and bars are just barely holding on. Any of the ones nearing the red, maybe ones that are struggling or just opened, will probably close for good if this doesn't get lifted.

Plus, not all bars and restaurants are equal in terms of their value to the public. Yes a restaurant known for cheaper italian food if great for family take out. But that dive-bar local establishment next door has zero in-person business.

Then you have places where the owner is not the chef. A place by me isn't even doing take-out because they'd need to pay too many staff to be on.

I don't know of ANY non-chair restaurant or bar that's doing well with this.
 

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I'm a frequent bar connoisseur, so I'd like to consider myself a bit of an expert on this topic.

A lot of restaurants and bars are just barely holding on. Any of the ones nearing the red, maybe ones that are struggling or just opened, will probably close for good if this doesn't get lifted.

Plus, not all bars and restaurants are equal in terms of their value to the public. Yes a restaurant known for cheaper italian food if great for family take out. But that dive-bar local establishment next door has zero in-person business.

Then you have places where the owner is not the chef. A place by me isn't even doing take-out because they'd need to pay too many staff to be on.

I don't know of ANY non-chair restaurant or bar that's doing well with this.
Unfortunately, it's not going to be a lot better even after places are able to operate at full capacity. I suspect that places will be packed initially just because so many have been stir-crazy over everything and will be eager to get out. Afterwards, the economic hit is such that "disposable income" for eating out is going to be decline for months at the very least.
 

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So we're not going to do what Indiana and Ohio are doing and we're still taking jabs at Tenn? Lol. K.
Good enough to follow out the door but not good enough to follow back in? F*** him.

Matt Bevin may be a total ******* but he’d have us opening up and I’d take him back faster than you can say “now y’all just can’t be doin that!”

Elections have consequences...
 
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Nah...this isn't a power play at all. This guy is 100% ******* now.

“Perdue has not been as helpful and as responsive, but we’re going to continue to try work with them to get the right things done,” Beshear said. “We can’t ask people to walk into a very dangerous situation if we and and an employer aren’t doing everything they can to make it safe, so we’re gonna continue to take steps, we’ll do what it takes to make sure that we can make those facilities as safe as we can.”

Then he issued what appeared to be a veiled threat: “I continue to believe that if you have to shut down for three days, but it means that you can create a safe, healthy environment, that may help you from having to shut down for multiple weeks or even a month. I hope those that need to hear that hear that.”
 

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Unfortunately, it's not going to be a lot better even after places are able to operate at full capacity. I suspect that places will be packed initially just because so many have been stir-crazy over everything and will be eager to get out. Afterwards, the economic hit is such that "disposable income" for eating out is going to be decline for months at the very least.

Possibly. But there are also a lot of people that are making money on this. In my circle, I'd say more people are profiting off this than are being hurt, financially speaking. I am in NY, though. I can't really speak to rural America.

What I do think will be a problem: How many people will risk going to a somewhat crowded bar and what will the limits be on capacity? SO yeah, it will take a while. But if the bar around the corner can go to half capacity, and therefore hire half it's staff back, that's a start.

Testing is also going to help. More and more testing centers are opening by me, and a new wave of anti-body tests are being done. That will also help.
 
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While other governors were tracking down materials needed for testing ours was tracking down license plate #s in church parking lots. He looked like a fool then, he looked like a fool with the whole Tupac thing, he looked like a fool calling out TN. It became obvious early on his focus was on the shutdown and not the recovery. Very short term thinking from a supposed leader.
He has the second highest approval rating in the country