If you are a Governor when you open things back up ?

Cawood86_rivals

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Why can’t you do the same worshipping at home that you can do at a church? You worship God and God can be worshipped from anywhere.
Are you serious? In ways you can, but the fellowship and strength you get from each helps each person. Being together, offering encouragement, and ebing supportive of each other.
Why can't liquor stores be shut down?
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Prevent people from getting their alcohol and then you’ll have people going to the hospitals seeking care for their withdrawal symptoms, which is one of the last thing the hospitals should have to be concerned with at this point.
So, since some have no self control, liquor must be available, but the concerns of christians doesn't matter?
 
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Are you serious? In ways you can, but the fellowship and strength you get from each helps each person. Being together, offering encouragement, and ebing supportive of each other.
Why can't liquor stores be shut down?
You can talk to people on the internet via video. Also can just talk with them on the phone.
 

Spica Orbit

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In other news, Kentucky Governor Dullard has the death rate in this state at 5.2%, while Tennessee is at 2.1%. Hell, West Virginia is at 1.4%. Great job by Dullard, I'm sure his friends at the Lexington Herald & Louisville Courier-Journal are back slapping him all the way to the podium each & every day.
 

The-Hack

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Wait until you have to comfort a small child who is hungry and you can't afford groceries. And the USA can not help when there is no food on the shelf and our fields lay in waste.

Sawnee, chill. I farm and there has been no slowdown, and no shutdown of things relating to agriculture. Locally, Ag is ahead of schedule, as most have been quarantined to their farms away from second jobs. Beef prices have fallen, and we have the most beef on foot we’ve had in 13 years.

The fields are being cultivated north of us and many have been planted, south of us. The seed stories in Michigan are for gardens, and that stoppage won’t hold.

Your distopian image made me think of W.J. Bryon’s warning in 1896: “take away the farms, and the grass will grow in the streets of every city; but take away the cities and leave the farms, and the cities will spring up, again, as if by magic.”

The farms and production chain beyond them are fine. Slaughter houses, packing plants, stockyards, farms and transportation never stopped. Most farming states have the lowest rates of infection, and social isolation is easy on a John Deere.
 

The-Hack

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A few thousand people and probably 30 churches. Why do many? People get pissed off at a church then start their own. My uncle goes to a church that has 7 members. My moms church has 15 or so.

I know of Churches across the street from one another, with the same name, after splitting!!
 
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The-Hack

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Neither does closing liquor stores

I illegally bought boot-leg liquor when I was 16, for a 40 year old tobacco worker who had gone most of the day without. I didn’t want him getting DT’s on my watch.

We don’t want 10 million Americans getting DT’s or that will affect the health care system.

Some folks posting here must have been reared in some quiet, safe suburbs.

Somebody google “DT’s” and send it to ‘em by social media.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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I illegally bought boot-leg liquor when I was 16, for a 40 year old tobacco worker who had gone most of the day without. I didn’t want him getting DT’s on my watch.

We don’t want 10 million Americans getting DT’s or that will affect the health care system.
But it's ok to deny many more than that their right to worship? Nice logic. Maybe you can go out and by some heroin for some people too.
 

LadyCaytIL

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We'll see if you're so strong about it when it comes around the other way. When it's something you believe strongly in. I am not for putting anyone at risk. But liquor stores have not shut down or told they can't have customers. The one close to my house has lines way around the building out into the road. This is an essential business?

i think liquor stores should be drive thru / delivery/ call and curbside pickup only.

I'd come down on any business not doing things the smart , safe way.
 

The-Hack

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But it's ok to deny many more than that their right to worship? Nice logic.

No one has been denied the right to worship. They’ve been temporarily denied the right to gather in large groups.

Hey, doubt me . . . the Courts are open for hearings, and a Judge struck down a mayor’s denial of drive-in services. No Court has taken down the prohibitions on indoor services, but if aggrieved, seek the constitutional remedy available.
 

MrKentucky

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haven’t seen any comments on this... indiana and Ohio, two states with.. *checks notes* republican governors
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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No one has been denied the right to worship. They’ve been temporarily denied the right to gather in large groups.

Hey, doubt me . . . the Courts are open for hearings, and a Judge struck down a mayor’s denial of drive-in services. No Court has taken down the prohibitions on indoor services, but if aggrieved, seek the constitutional remedy available.
We just had our Governor have the State Police write down license numbers and give out citations. The Mayor of Lousiville wanted to do it for drive in services. Him even wanting to do it should be concerning.
The governor of Michigan is telling stores what they can sell. Telling people they can't go see their families. They are abusing their power and trying to see just how far they can go.
I don't doubt you. I have no reason to.
 
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John Henry

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Sawnee, chill. I farm and there has been no slowdown, and no shutdown of things relating to agriculture. Locally, Ag is ahead of schedule, as most have been quarantined to their farms away from second jobs. Beef prices have fallen, and we have the most beef on foot we’ve had in 13 years.

The fields are being cultivated north of us and many have been planted, south of us. The seed stories in Michigan are for gardens, and that stoppage won’t hold.

Your distopian image made me think of W.J. Bryon’s warning in 1896: “take away the farms, and the grass will grow in the streets of every city; but take away the cities and leave the farms, and the cities will spring up, again, as if by magic.”

The farms and production chain beyond them are fine. Slaughter houses, packing plants, stockyards, farms and transportation never stopped. Most farming states have the lowest rates of infection, and social isolation is easy on a John Deere.
There will not be a problem if we get back to work. We can't think about keeping the country shut down until a vaccine is available. And we won't because Trump will not allow it.

So we are going to be OK and I have chilled. Our governor is ready to go and our dairy farmers will not have to pour out anymore milk because their largest market, the schools are shut down. Our strawberry farms will not have fruit rotting in the fields and life will go forward. So thank you for following a career as a farmer. That is my heritage also and I have the upmost respect for ranchers and farmers.
 

CatsFanGG24

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haven’t seen any comments on this... indiana and Ohio, two states with.. *checks notes* republican governors
Ohio has bee more conservative then most on lockdown - and Indiana has had a rough go of it...he may use this coalition as a shield to keep closed for quite a while.
 

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haven’t seen any comments on this... indiana and Ohio, two states with.. *checks notes* republican governors
Why can't Kentucky be Kentucky and act independent.

So when Trump talks to the Kentucky governor about whether he is prepared or not, the KY governor will have to check with Ohio and Indiana. Is that what is going on?
 

Tannerdad

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Ky is lagging terribly in testing and has a high death pct. I think our numbers are going to go way up in the next few weeks as testing increases(if it does)versus down. We might have mitigated early enough but we sure as hell didn’t ramp up testing quick enough, imo.

I think Beshear keeps us “closed” longer than you think.
 

CatsFanGG24

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Ky is lagging terribly in testing and has a high death pct. I think our numbers are going to go way up in the next few weeks as testing increases(if it does)versus down. We might have mitigated early enough but we sure as hell didn’t ramp up testing quick enough, imo.

I think Beshear keeps us “closed” longer than you think.
Theoretically, with the lockdowns being 20-30 days, the necessity and demand for testing should go down...I don’t see a huge jump coming - if it does happen then the stay safe at home was a failure as we should be in the slow down stage.

He did open up Kroger testing and on day 1 they didn’t hit max capacity or even close...they said the lack of people was the only issue and had to loosen restrictions to allow a larger eligible pool of people.

The states he is joining forces will need to be closed longer than us for sure - which is probably why he likes the group. (They should be working together on workers who cross state lines)
 

Tannerdad

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^^^Good post.

I still think he’s keeping us closed longer. He has a huge approval rating during this and he’s going to milk it by staying overly cautious.
 

rick64

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Going to depend on the data curve of cases. If the trend has consistently been going down, then you can start to open things up slowly. If you go too soon, could you have relapse and it’s back to square one. Will be a highly critiqued decision.
 

bigsmoothie

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Why can't Kentucky be Kentucky and act independent.

So when Trump talks to the Kentucky governor about whether he is prepared or not, the KY governor will have to check with Ohio and Indiana. Is that what is going on?
Do t you live in Florida
 

WildcatofNati

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But it's ok to deny many more than that their right to worship? Nice logic. Maybe you can go out and by some heroin for some people too.
I'll propose a middle ground for you and the Hack. How about, let's open the liquor stores AND the churches. And, for that matter, the restaurants and bars. Etc, etc. Forthwith.
 

WildcatofNati

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Theoretically, with the lockdowns being 20-30 days, the necessity and demand for testing should go down...I don’t see a huge jump coming - if it does happen then the stay safe at home was a failure as we should be in the slow down stage.

He did open up Kroger testing and on day 1 they didn’t hit max capacity or even close...they said the lack of people was the only issue and had to loosen restrictions to allow a larger eligible pool of people.

The states he is joining forces will need to be closed longer than us for sure - which is probably why he likes the group. (They should be working together on workers who cross state lines)
I see no reason why Ohio should stay locked down another day. Ohio is past peak per COVID19 IMHE and moreover the death rate here is about one third the national average, and unsurprisingly, Cleveland is hardest hit. Open up, forthwith and if Cleveland gets excluded or perhaps even quarantined, so much the better.
 
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