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Moving the goal posts? I was never anti-Diallo. I am convinced you're the dumbest poster in RR history. That isn't calling you a name, it is defining a condition.
I'm pretty sure you were the guy back in the spring bashing him for testing the waters and having a meltdown. Maybe not, but about 95% sure it was you.
 
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That isn't free speech. With each post you set a new benchmark for stupid.
What's not free about it? It literally states you can say whatever you want in the workplace, but your employer "might" have something to say about it. The goes on to state that certain things are even protected by labor laws. However, I notice you left all that out of your response. I wonder if that's because it didn't fit your narrative.
 
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He's calling you for moving goal post while injecting your supposed position on diallo back in spring...[laughing]

I've already had one of these Marxist misfits bring out Mitch on me[laughing]
I called him out for moving goal post? Could you show me where I did that?
 

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Please tell me all about your mixed heritage. We’ll compare it to my son’s and the **** he’s already faced at 17 which includes, among other things, being pulled over and harassed by the police multiple times for the crime of driving a nice car in a nice neighborhood.

After that we can tackle structural racism, white supremacy and the history of these United States.

K? Thanks.

What happened to your original one liner white jokes, mr. cool guy?

Save the anecdotal bs for social justice class. The data says there's no issue with systematic racism and police brutality. A lot of these stories are made up anyway. All in an attempt to counteract the data that says police are More likely to kill unarmed white men while other races make up much more violent crime.
 
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Exactly Qwesley!! He didn't kneel cause he objected to the flag or anthem. The flag is just a symbol people. He kneeled to protest America!! America not the flag/symbol. Someone earlier posted something to the effect that minirities commit more crimes than non-minirities and that's why the prison population make-up is the way it is. Now that train of thought speaks volumes of how much people don't know about the system in which we all live under. (Nobody in their right mind would claim all old white men are violent because one man goes on a shooting spree in Vegas) And everyone that Kap is kneeling for would not rob or hurt him. Many will shake his hand and say thanks for starting the conversation that the country doesn't want to have. Taking the knee during the anthem was just an attention getter so we all could have an open minded discussion about race. It's a hard topic to discuss in this country but at some point we still need to discuss it. It's the only way things can improve. Now things are much better than they were but there's plenty of room for improvement!!!

You made the point of prisons being filled with black men. That is why the point of black men committing more crimes was brought up . It's a simple fact I'm sorry that offends you

Maybe do something about that instead of sitting here and blaming others. Just a thought. I personally would love to see more children growing up with a mother and father in the household.

Interestingly, the concept of black kids growing up without fathers has increased in a similar trend as government handouts increased. Weird

The problem here is I don't think you understand what you are discussing. You have said free speech shouldn't come without consequences. You understand that's what free speech is, right? She isn't enticing violence or bodily harm on anyone or anyone's property. If you don't like it or agree with it don't watch. It's your right not to. Which is as much your right as it's her right to an opinion, just the like it's the right of the network to have their own opinion of her performance as an anchor and suspend or terminate as they see fit.

Why do you feel you have anymore of a right to come here and voice your opinion, but she does nit have that same right? Do you understand what rights are and how they work? It doesn't seem so. She's using a platform to promote hers and that platform can decide whether to support it or not. So you think everything else she might do in life makes her a great person, but because she voices her opinions she's a bad person? That literally makes no sense or has any logic behind it. Which is probably why you are so confused and offended by her statements.

Bud, there isn't free speech when it comes to your employer. Why can't people understand that?
 
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You made the point of prisons being filled with black men. That is why the point of black men committing more crimes was brought up . It's a simple fact I'm sorry that offends you

Maybe do something about that instead of sitting here and blaming others. Just a thought. I personally would love to see more children growing up with a mother and father in the household.

Interestingly, the concept of black kids growing up without fathers has increased in a similar trend as government handouts increased. Weird



Bud, there isn't free speech when it comes to your employer. Why can't people understand that?
Well proof has already been provided that certain things are. It also stated you can say whatever you want in an employer setting, just that your boss may have something to say about it. The worst they can do is fire you, that haven't exactly taken away your freedom or rights have they? Now depending on what you said, if it was slanderous, inflicted riot, harm or met other criteria you could face legal action, but that's pretty common across the board and not just within an employment setting.
 

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You made the point of prisons being filled with black men. That is why the point of black men committing more crimes was brought up . It's a simple fact I'm sorry that offends you

Maybe do something about that instead of sitting here and blaming others. Just a thought. I personally would love to see more children growing up with a mother and father in the household.

Interestingly, the concept of black kids growing up without fathers has increased in a similar trend as government handouts increased. Weird



Bud, there isn't free speech when it comes to your employer. Why can't people understand that?

Violent crime in inner cities and black neighborhoods is a direct result of fatherless households. The data is clear, it's settled. You can also look at corresponding data within other racial groups, even their own 50 years ago, that shows the direct pattern.

White liberals know this, they don't care. This is about playing the victimization card and promotion of the grievance industry. For white liberals it's about votes.

There were many black men in the civil rights era who were openly more fearful of liberal whites than conservatives for these very reasons. Liberal policy has decimated minority communities.
 

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What happened to your original one liner white jokes, mr. cool guy?

Save the anecdotal bs for social justice class. The data says there's no issue with systematic racism and police brutality. A lot of these stories are made up anyway. All in an attempt to counteract the data that says police are More likely to kill unarmed white men while other races make up much more violent crime.

Lol I swear I can’t belive some of you fools are real.
 
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Of course they do. Which they did. And I support that right. I just find it ignorant when some here have an opinion attacking others for their opinions. Doesn't seem very logical. Nor does saying she is strictly a bad person because of her opinion.

Dude no one is calling her a bad person for having an opinion for Christ's sake

They are calling her a bad person for her history of stoking racial tensions. For calling millions of people names. For hiding behind racial issues.

Not because she likes Pepsi over coke. You've been saying that this whole thread and it's complete bullcrap.
 

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I would agree that Blacks get locked up more than whites but I wouldn't agree that most of the crimes committed in this country are by Blacks. But again this isn't the conversation. The conversation is about systematic oppression. Can we at least agree that this country, as great as it is, was founded with one race being superior to others by law? Can we agree that Blacks and other minorities were arrested and locked up while whites who did the same weren't? And I'd like to know when or what year did all this go away? It's gotten better but there's stil plenty of room for improvement.
 
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Well proof has already been provided that certain things are. It also stated you can say whatever you want in an employer setting, just that your boss may have something to say about it. The worst they can do is fire you, that haven't exactly taken away your freedom or rights have they? Now depending on what you said, if it was slanderous, inflicted riot, harm or met other criteria you could face legal action, but that's pretty common across the board and not just within an employment setting.

That' exactly the point. My God. Your employer CAN FIRE You. That literally means what you're arguing it doesn't. how dumb of an argument is this?
 
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I would agree that Blacks get locked up more than whites but I wouldn't agree that most of the crimes committed in this country are by Blacks. But again this isn't the conversation. The conversation is about systematic oppression. Can we at least agree that this country, as great as it is, was founded with one race being superior to others by law? Can we agree that Blacks and other minorities were arrested and locked up while whites who did the same weren't? And I'd like to know when or what year did all this go away? It's gotten better but there's stil plenty of room for improvement.


LOL you wouldn't agree? Should we just start with murder and work our way down?
 
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That' exactly the point. My God. Your employer CAN FIRE You. That literally means what you're arguing it doesn't. how dumb of an argument is this?
Of course they can, I've said I supported an employers right to do whatever they desire as far a persons employment. That doesn't mean they can prevent someone for saying what they want. That's free speech. I can walk away from someone for not liking what they say, or ask them to leave my property. I still can't limit what they say. That's free speech. And proof has been provided some things you cannot be fired for saying, whether the employer supports it or not.
 
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Dude no one is calling her a bad person for having an opinion for Christ's sake

They are calling her a bad person for her history of stoking racial tensions. For calling millions of people names. For hiding behind racial issues.

Not because she likes Pepsi over coke. You've been saying that this whole thread and it's complete bullcrap.
It's all her opinion. Anytime she slanders, defames or personally insults someone she should be held accountable. But she still has a right to her free speech as long as she isn't breaking the law, which she isn't. And yea, several people have called her a bad person strictly for that.
 

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I would agree that Blacks get locked up more than whites but I wouldn't agree that most of the crimes committed in this country are by Blacks. But again this isn't the conversation. The conversation is about systematic oppression. Can we at least agree that this country, as great as it is, was founded with one race being superior to others by law? Can we agree that Blacks and other minorities were arrested and locked up while whites who did the same weren't? And I'd like to know when or what year did all this go away? It's gotten better but there's stil plenty of room for improvement.


I agree things can and should get better. But folks crying wolf constantly only increases the negativity. White people are tired of being viewed as racist and privileged. I sure don't feel Iike I'm either.
 

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I agree things can and should get better. But folks crying wolf constantly only increases the negativity. White people are tired of being viewed as racist and privileged. I sure don't feel Iike I'm either.

You have to recognize and confront the problem. And a great majority of white America doesn’t do that or they act like some of the morons in this thread.

And historically that's always been the case.
 
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I agree things can and should get better. But folks crying wolf constantly only increases the negativity. White people are tired of being viewed as racist and privileged. I sure don't feel Iike I'm either.
But that's only going to come from open dialogue between all and people being willing to listen to and understand varying sides in a civilized way. As example, anytime someone has a differing opinion or viewpoint on this board, we have a lot of the more feable minded posters who only resort to name calling, bashing, or the internet safeword "troll" mostly because they aren't capable of that level of mature debate and conversation. Instead of that crap, people should try listening and attempting to relate to the other persons argument. Doesn't mean you always have to agree or support it, but at least there can be some level of respect and decency between the sides that allows for common ground and eventual improvement.
 
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Of course they can, I've said I supported an employers right to do whatever they desire as far a persons employment. That doesn't mean they can prevent someone for saying what they want. That's free speech. I can walk away from someone for not liking what they say, or ask them to leave my property. I still can't limit what they say. That's free speech. And proof has been provided some things you cannot be fired for saying, whether the employer supports it or not.


You have no idea what the hell you're taking about.. The fact that consequences are legally available means it' not free speech

You're too stupid to argue with. Respond if you wish but I'm not wasting time with you.
 
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You have no idea what the hell you're taking about.. The fact that consequences are legally available means it' not free speech

You're too stupid to argue with. Respond if you wish but I'm not wasting time with you.
I think you meant it's. If you're going to call someone stupid in a post at least spell everything correctly. Otherwise, it weakens any point you're trying to make.

Again, being fired doesn't limit your speech, it just limits your employment. You can still legally speak freely.
 

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Her personal beliefs should have nothing to do with it....

She should be fired because she doesn't know much about sports, has generally ****** takes, is incredibly tough to look at, and has a screeching voice that makes you scramble for the volume button.
 
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Her personal beliefs should have nothing to do with it....

She should be fired because she doesn't know much about sports, has generally ****** takes, is incredibly tough to look at, and has a screeching voice that makes you scramble for the volume button.
Now, most of this I can somewhat agree with. I don't think she's that unattractive though. She's obviously not really hot or anything, but I've seen much much worse.
 

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Her voice makes her face reach that level of tough to look at bad. I know that's kind of a catch 22 but it's true.
 

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He better not step foot in a crap load of countries in Africa then. Slavery and genocide is alive and well there.
 

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I don’t think you understand what racism is or how it works in
This country. But that’s on you doggie. Not me

Is it racism when a black man goes into a church and shoots up a bunch of white people? Or when a group of black men torture, rape and kill a couple of white teens? Or when black males ambush and kill cops? Because that happens much more often than people think. It's just never highlighted on the nightly news or mainstream media. Racism is not reserved for white people. You don't have to have power to be racist. I'm sure plenty of folks would call rednecks in Appalachia who have zero power over anything racist.
 

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Here are some stats for you:
Police killed 233 blacks in 2016 across the nation- only 16 were unarmed.
751 murders were committed in Chicago ALONE in 2016- the vast majority of the victims were black as were the vast majority of their killers.
Police officers were 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was by a police officer.
Black males comprised of 42% of all cop killers despite being only 6% of the population over the past decade.
So it appears all of this kneeling protesting is misplaced.
 

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And here we are on Page 6. There is confusion between racism and ignorance. I’m tired and I’m going to bed. But Google “Birmingham church bombing”. THAT is racism. Those guys didn’t give a damn about killing fellow Christians, they wanted dead black folks. This nonsense from JM is based on ignorance . I pity her and others of her ilk. My hero and idol was my father. He walked 3 miles every damn day to school while his white playmates rode a bus. THAT is racism.

The movie “Marshall” is coming out this weekend. It’s based on Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall. And he almost got lynched in my hometown of Columbia, TN. Decent white folk didn’t let that happen. So yes, there’s racism. But yes, there ARE people, white, black, red, and yellow that are decent when it come to race.

Let’s follow their example.
 

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Those are facts that completely contradict the false narrative coming from the grievance lobby. It's not about shaming any groups, that's the debate tactic used by the left to silence the truth.

Modern day poverty is not a racial issue in and of itself, the family structure is the biggest driver. The left does not recognize this as the reason for the downward progression of black, and to a lesser extent, white American culture since the 60's because they've helped contribute to it in many ways. And the black liberal grievance lobby and white ideological academics/media will never attack the truth because it's a lose lose for them. Dependence is the only thing keeping low wage earners and inner city communities voting liberal. They absolutely have no intentions of solving these problems. So they invent anecdotal stories and push false narratives (hands up don't shoot) because they've got to create a false picture for the public.

This systemic racism garbage is an excuse and a red herring. The data clearly shows where the problems are coming from in both black and white communities. Fatherless homes, and broken families, and those ideals have been the foundation of the right for decades.