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Not at all. The context of the topic is better players. I was in essence commending RU defensive scheming while agreeing with some others that RU seems lost a bit on offense. The difference isn't only about talent but the philosophy and pkaycalling as well.
Props to Penn st. They are beastly.
Props to Penn st. They are beastly.
So let’s run for No yards and score 3 points? Come on this offense is absolutely embarrassing. Thank god for a much easier schedule this year over last. We are still going to one of the worst offenses in CFB but at least the rule changes and running clock makes us look a little better but still putrid
Exactly right! While the announcers were bad they made a great statement early on that everyone should listen to which was something along these lines: this Rutgers defense is playing really great and that is without any name players…they are just well coached and always in the right spots.
So again the issue is scheme and taking risks on offense that is causing me headaches. While we may not have the Jimmy and Joe’s we need to find an alternative way to try and compete.
It's also possible they throw a pick six or we return a kick. Make mistakes early and a big play doesn't help you. That hasn't happened for three weeks, unfortunately, which we needed to win one of these games.
Michigan had 287 total yards against Penn State.
Iowa had 76
Rutgers had 229
We are where we are...not ready to put up big numbers against the #2 defense in the country. Sometimes it just is what it is. The other team is better...particularly when they are paying a roster full of higher rated HS players a lot more money.
Until you see a financial whale or two miraculously appear and start funding this thing on their level, why would your expectations be more than playing deep into a game with a chance to win?
Wish we could have had a big break or two over the last three weeks. Fewer big penalties called on us in key spots. Less mistakes in key moments. It's possible that it could have come together, it didn't.
The defense didn't do a very good job of adjusting to the QB running up the middle for 15 yards, over and over. It was Penn State's whole offense for much of the game. If we're going to criticize every single thing the offense does and doesn't do, its only fair to point that out as well.
"PSU has better players" effects the production of our offense.
The strategy and philosophy is within our control.
Nobody is blaming Kyle for having a bad day. "PSU has better players" effects that outcome.
However, the passing game was actually working. It was our decision to ignore it and keep running it up the middle for minimal yards.
"PSU has better players" didn't make HC Schiano/OC KC stick to their predetermined plan of running it 3x more than passing it.
The strategy and philosophy is within our control.
Nobody is blaming Kyle for having a bad day. "PSU has better players" effects that outcome.
However, the passing game was actually working. It was our decision to ignore it and keep running it up the middle for minimal yards.
"PSU has better players" didn't make HC Schiano/OC KC stick to their predetermined plan of running it 3x more than passing it.
He doesn't suck. Our talent level is below average and Kirk is squeezing as much out of this talent as he can. When you are playing a top 10 defense and your offense is this limited WTF do you expect?
Adapt to what is given rather than force your scheme. Yes this is a vast oversimplification but GW was the hot hand today and wasn't allowed to step up and carry the group.
I think a lot of fans hate the offensive identity of the team. It isn't very flexible
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After today the offense is 123 of 130 teams .
Last in completion percentage
2nd to last in yards
Hasnt scored a TD in over 3 games
And that’s not embarrassing??????
Your right absolutely nonsense.
we wonder we are so bad with fans like youOne Td just one ! Just one Fing TD on any of the last few games would be a good start
Do they take away our bowl eligibility for those things?After today the offense is 123 of 130 teams .
Last in completion percentage
2nd to last in yards
Hasnt scored a TD in over 3 games
And that’s not embarrassing??????
Your right absolutely nonsense.
It's almost comical.
"The run game was working. Just keep running it. Can't risk a pass. Stick to what is working. Dont get cute!"
"Okay. Well the run game was abysmal and the passing game was doing well. Shouldn't we have tried that more then?"
"............"
They should!!!!
if not for a D2 win and two interim coaches we don’t sniff a bowl. I was commenting on the offense being embarrassing. If you don’t think those stats are utterly atrocious then there is no hope for you.
Gavin threw a pick and lost a fumble from a hit from a defender who was untouched on 2 drop backs.
Probably could have thrown a few more passes but when we went to it, bad things happened. There's a reason why we're entering the 4th quarter of these games tight and losing by three TD's...we go to the passing game.
But the difference in this game was the penalty on the first drive killing our momentum.
Failure to make an adjustment and take the QB up the middle play away from them, it was the only thing working with their offense for three quarters.
Failure to make a big play, a big turnover, a return. You have to have that happen to win a game like this.
Definitely sucks for me because your one of my Alumni. Sadly will continue to be an embarrassment with fans with your mentality.That's crazy they're still going to a bowl game though. Sucks for you I guess.
In the 4th quarter., yes. Rutgers was forced to pass at that point rather than chose it, there were injuries on the ol and the defense was scheming to stop the pass instead of the run. The first half was different. It was good Rutgers took some shots. I think some fans would have been more aggressive with what worked. Further, move the ball with the pass and they can't schene against the run exclusively.
I understand this is a simplification. I'm not saying it is easy. I know there are countless variables im.not accounting for but regardless, it sure seems like the coaching staff sometimes wants to force a certain type of game rather than take whats there. Granted, with GWs struggles this year, caution is warranted. I get it.
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When will he not be young? He has thrown 390 passes in games over the last three years and the teenager label has been shed. That said I thought her threw the ball as well as we have seen from him today and we should have thrown more on first down and in long situations. Speaking of young, use Aaron Young more, he is fast, tough and runs downhill, one carry last week gets first down which we only had 7, one carry this week gets 7 yards, feed him more.
Kirk runs an offense to the strengths of our team. Our offense doesn't have a lot of strengths.
Maybe you would prefer having Gleason back?
When it’s done at the end of the year the numbers will be very very similar.
Kirk would have had a better rb, a more experienced Gavin, and a far easier schedule so. What are we talking about.
The offense was 6th in the conference in total points before this week. So um you're wrong bro.
Im.not sure Gleason has anything to do with GW looking in the zone and having a favorable match up while the defense aimed to take away the run.
You are echoing what I said more or less otherwise. Some might see it as wise and some might see it as inflexible. Is it possible both can be right? Play to strengths but look for what's given too. If only.it was this easy!
the offense is going to a bowl because it scored enough in 6 games to win those games
and make RU eligible to play in a bowl game after the regular season ends
:WooHoo:
Christy I appreciate you defending Greg and Kirk but
Christy i appreciate you defending Greg and his buddy Kirk but they are 117 out of 130 going into today. After today 123 and falling fast. It’s ok hun they are awful
Got it. After a fumble - move away from those plays.
Gavin/Kyle fumbled the ball on a running play in the 2nd quarter at our own 34.
The ball is the program.
So stop running at that point?
I’m still confused on what exacty you think your saying.
You're almost there.
There's a reason why they call a run first offense conservative. You're less likely to turn the ball over.
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