Lee Cruse Fired

[anon_leeghhkp6kfu6]

I disagree. In 2019 if you're in a job in the public eye you shouldn't need training to know that you can't agree with someone who compare a mixed race child with a monkey. I think most people in this thread know that's not acceptable behavior.

He wasn’t agreeing with him...he was making light of a situation that he shouldn’t have. That happens regardless of whether you’re in the public eye or not. Again, trying to paint it as a situation where he’s clearly approving of some racist sentiment is a flat out lie on your part. He made a bad joke about something he should have known could be construed in an ugly light. It was bad, but it’s not the same as what you’re depicting.

Most people in this thread are hopefully smart enough to realize that people make mistakes and that grace and forgiveness for flub-ups need to become a bigger part of situations like this.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

He wasn’t agreeing with him...he was making light of a situation that he shouldn’t have. That happens regardless of whether you’re in the public eye or not. Again, trying to paint it as a situation where he’s clearly approving of some racist sentiment is a flat out lie on your part. He made a bad joke about something he should have known could be construed in an ugly light. It was bad, but it’s not the same as what you’re depicting.

Most people in this thread are hopefully smart enough to realize that people make mistakes and that grace and forgiveness for flub-ups need to become a bigger part of situations like this.

He said, "He's my new favorite DJ!". That's certainly not disagreeing with him! That's not being disgusted by what he said. It's not pointing out it's wrong.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Could be agreeing with him making fun of royals, who live a lavish lifestyle for nothing on the backs of the British people.

Not something i would do, or make fun of the looks of any baby, but you don’t know he isnt just agreeing with crass humour that has zero to do with tge racial makeup of the baby.

 

[kafka0117]

Maybe he deserved to get canned, maybe not. But the outrage machine is completely out of hand now. Remember the ESPN tennis analyst who was fired for comparing Serena Williams' aggressive style on the court to "guerrilla warfare?"

You can be fired, not for a racist comment, but for something that sounds racist. It's ridiculous, and it's what the left's snowflake culture has wrought.

Corporations could end this nonsense, if they weren't run by pussies.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

I don’t use Twitter or any social media. It’s just a damn word good grief. Getting into a tizzy because of it is so pathetic I just can’t fathom how little self control you must have , or what other self esteem issues you have. What ever the case people should be able to think and speak freely without being ostracized from society.

Who is being ostracized from society? The idea to say racist rhetoric or that white-nationalists/ neo-nazis are permissible due to freedom of speech is laughable. My grandfathers did not fight wars to rid the world of this rhetoric to allow for it to persist in 2019.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

We are living in an age where blacks can say anything they want about each other , use the N word on a regular basis, buy a white man can say one word out of place and it is catastrophic.

Why can white people not give black people 1 word? 1 word is off limits for white people. If you ever want an example of the white supremacist ideology this nation is founded on, there it is. The idea that nothing should be off limits to white people and others using makes it permissible for us to use it. You people are absolutely insufferable. The amount of ignorance in this thread is off-putting to say the least.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

Maybe he deserved to get canned, maybe not. But the outrage machine is completely out of hand now. Remember the ESPN tennis analyst who was fired for comparing Serena Williams' aggressive style on the court to "guerrilla warfare?"

You can be fired, not for a racist comment, but for something that sounds racist. It's ridiculous, and it's what the left's snowflake culture has wrought.

Corporations could end this nonsense, if they weren't run by pussies.

Very simple, no matter how big or small the inference

YOU NEVER COMPARE A BLACK PERSON TO ANY SPECIES OF MONKEY. NEVER. NEVER.

It is not that complex of an ideal.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

I'm not sure how ostracizing people who say racist things, or in Lee's case agree with someone who does something racist, is a bad thing. I think anyone who says or does stupid things should be ostracized, that's how they learn the things they are saying are not acceptable in a polite society.

I don't know about you, but I have no problem speaking freely without feeling the need to use racist comments.

Everyone could benefit from training in implicit bias and covert racism. There is a wonderful training called "Undoing Racism" that is extremely beneficial of awareness to and elimination of covert racism. I will admit the country has made progress as it pertains to eliminating instances of overt racism.... Covert racism/implicit bias is the issue that needs to be addressed now.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

The reason why you find it so insufferable is because your delusions are agitated by truth.

You get angry at the mental gymnastics you are forced to perform to sustain the misguided reality you formed in your mind.

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

Very simple, no matter how big or small the inference

YOU NEVER COMPARE A BLACK PERSON TO ANY SPECIES OF MONKEY. NEVER. NEVER.

It is not that complex of an ideal.

Cruse didn’t.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

I also would not frame Lee as a racist. People have a misconception of racism/ prejudice based upon race. Everyone contains prejudices regarding race. Everyone. And no one is perfect. You can say something racially insensitive and not be "racist". But it is all about an awareness and concerted effort to not partake in those ideals. Do they come out sometimes? Sure. And when you are in the public eye, you pay a steeper price.

 

[LordEggForgotHisPassword_rivals]

I am for free speech all the time. I am also for the freedom to not like certain exercises of free speech. And so forth. I think it much better exercise to address what is wrong with certain speech, without banning it or criminalizing it, effectively, where you lose more otherwise sympathetic hearts than you gain. Him saying it was not polarizing, him being called out wasn't polarizing, him apologizing wasn't polarizing...it was it was people advocating his termination and LEX firing him for a mistake that set this off big time.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

The reason why you find it so insufferable is because your delusions are agitated by truth.

You get angry at the mental gymnastics you are forced to perform to sustain the misguided reality you formed in your mind.

I'm the one performing mental gymnastics? I am not the one on here rationalizing and approving of what Lee did. You just a little wuss. Tha'ts all. An insufferable, ignorant, little wuss that hates that in any debate, being it soccer, racism etc. I take you behind a woodshed and completely expose your lack of critical thinking. Don't get mad. Learn something.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

Cruse didn’t.

Yeah he did. It was indirect, but he gave the action of sharing a photo depicting a person of African heritage as a monkey validation when he called that DJ "his favorite DJ".

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

I'm the one performing mental gymnastics? I am not the one on here rationalizing and approving of what Lee did. You just a little *****. Tha'ts all. An insufferable, ignorant, little *****.

Not everyone is prejudiced and you cannot grasp my points due to the strength of your delusions

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

Not everyone is prejudiced and you cannot grasp my points due to the strength of your delusions

Yes they are. The idea that you think you are not prejudice is the funniest **** I have read in my life. It has absolutely no bearing or grounding in the social sciences at all.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

And im not concerned by your cash my fade insults

They reinforce my point

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

And im not concerned by your cash my fade insults

They reinforce my point

In your delusional mind they do. You are such an *** hat. And me calling you for what you are doesn't de-legitimize my arguments based in social science. I have a bachelors in Psychology and Biology along with a masters in Criminology and Psychology. You have no clue what you speak of. None.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

The dalai llama isnt prejudiced

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

You are literally "some dude" spewing ******** on a message board.

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

The dalai llama isnt prejudiced

Wrong.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Youre indoctrinated, there is science refuting implicit bias and it’s testing methodology

You are emotionally invested in lies

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Jesus was not prejudiced

 

[BigBlueSean_rivals178247]

There literally was just an instance a couple of years ago of the Dalai Lama quoted as saying some sexist remarks in regards to women. Being or saying something sexist is literally a prejudice against women.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

I want better for you, tge truth is not chit

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Probably all in your interpretation, misguided perception of what is and isnt biased.

Which is why a functional society shouldnt give your kind the keys, you arent the arbiter of what is right or wrong

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

And i know for a fact there are humans who arent prejudiced

No amount of leftist sociology ( it’s a sof science dominated by left leaning people who cannot remove their own biases from their work) is going to change that.

Even still, those radical social theories are not without their detractors

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

Yeah he did. It was indirect, but he gave the action of sharing a photo depicting a person of African heritage as a monkey validation when he called that DJ "his favorite DJ".

He did not. Not even indirectly. He always chided the whole British Royal Family. He saw an old photograph which ON IT’S FACE was funny. He was then told about the racial makeup of the baby and realized his mistake.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

There literally was just an instance a couple of years ago of the Dalai Lama quoted as saying some sexist remarks in regards to women. Being or saying something sexist is literally a prejudice against women.

Then the historical Buddha was not prejudiced... nor are sufficiently advanced buddhist monks since it goes against what Buddhism is at it's very core about nondualism.

The goal of a proper Christian is to beChrist like, so therefore some christians are necessarily unprejudiced.

SOrry, you are not the arbiter of what is right or wrong, what is or is not prejudiced... y ou are not a moral authority. Your degrees, occupation, and 105 IQ do not qualify you to impose your worldview on everyone else, to get people reprimanded and fired for how you perceive things to be.

You insult me in every manner you can think of whenever you want a foolish tit for tat with me and it says everything about you, how emotionally attached you are to your misguided beliefs and what's wrong with your kind as a whole. I call you misguided and deluded because that is your main problem, amoung others, and one can not fix a problem he is anaware of, which you are clearly not aware how far gone you indeed are.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

He did not. Not even indirectly. He always chided the whole British Royal Family. He saw an old photograph which ON IT’S FACE was funny. He was then told about the racial makeup of the baby and realized his mistake.

Well that's not quite true at all. Here's the actual video. Lee Cruse

He's not confused as to the race of the child, and his partner even says that it's racist and he keeps acting like it's no big deal. He double and triple downs on it. I"ve got no sympathy for anyone that stupid.

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

Man, having watched that video.... No disrespect, but I have no sympathy for people like you.

This kind of ignorance can only arise in a degrading culture of which we are all to blame but you all in particular; you do not live in an "honor culture" like they do in the middle east and Africa... you do not have the right to not be disrespected.

The video itself is obviously innocuous and should've been scrapped at the drawing room floor because how people would or could perceive it.

Perhaps only those people without prejudice are able to see what is patently obvious here, but you guys are the ones who know what's in everyone's hearts, what they mean... it has to be prejudiced, because everyone has a little racist devil inside them just itching for the chance to jump out!

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

Well that's not quite true at all. Here's the actual video. Lee Cruse

He's not confused as to the race of the child, and his partner even says that it's racist and he keeps acting like it's no big deal. He double and triple downs on it. I"ve got no sympathy for anyone that stupid.

He was nervous. No way he would continue KNOWING it was racist.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Joy Reid, Jemele Hill, Don Lemon, Symone Sanders, etc. can say whatever they want about anyone and no one bats an eye. But if you dare to offend a black person, your career has to be ruined all while they can bash white people and keep media gigs.

Go look at the type of stuff that gets approved bylines and goes without consequence only for someone like Cruse to get canned.

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

Why can white people not give black people 1 word?

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

Man, having watched that video.... No disrespect, but I have no sympathy for people like you.

This kind of ignorance can only arise in a degrading culture of which we are all to blame but you all in particular; you do not live in an "honor culture" like they do in the middle east and Africa... you do not have the right to not be disrespected.

The video itself is obviously innocuous and should've been scrapped at the drawing room floor because how people would or could perceive it.

Perhaps only those people without prejudice are able to see what is patently obvious here, but you guys are the ones who know what's in everyone's hearts, what they mean... it has to be prejudiced, because everyone has a little racist devil inside them just itching for the chance to jump out!

"Honor culture?" I think you're purposely mischaracterizing the argument. No one here is asking for any limits to be put on free speech beyond those already in place. Feel free to say whatever you like, however don't complain if you say racist things and you receive real world repercussions.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

He was nervous. No way he would continue KNOWING it was racist.

So now it was because he "was nervous"? Reaching a bit aren't you? His partner is TELLING him its racist and he continues right on down that road.

 

[LordEggForgotHisPassword_rivals]

Fire the Dalai Lama

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

"Honor culture?" I think you're purposely mischaracterizing the argument. No one here is asking for any limits to be put on free speech beyond those already in place. Feel free to say whatever you like, however don't complain if you say racist things and you receive real world repercussions.

I am talking about the link you posted, has numerous comments about being disprected and a brief quip at the end of it with a lady self righteously morally outraged and demanding an apology.

Because you know the comments are racist...

I however do not know that. I am not concerned about me saying racist things because it's not going to happen, I am however concerned when people lose their livelihood in the society I live in merely because people perceive something to be there which isn't.

You don't know for certain the comments were racist or that that the initial BBC guy's comment was either. His partner tells him it's racist and he responds he doesn't know that it was, he doesn't know the BBC guy's intention he says saying maybe he was racist, maybe not, but he doesn't know... but you do.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Man, having watched that video.... No disrespect, but I have no sympathy for people like you.

This kind of ignorance can only arise in a degrading culture of which we are all to blame but you all in particular; you do not live in an "honor culture" like they do in the middle east and Africa... you do not have the right to not be disrespected.

The video itself is obviously innocuous and should've been scrapped at the drawing room floor because how people would or could perceive it.

Perhaps only those people without prejudice are able to see what is patently obvious here, but you guys are the ones who know what's in everyone's hearts, what they mean... it has to be prejudiced, because everyone has a little racist devil inside them just itching for the chance to jump out!

These are the type of people who thought it was a hate crime because someone put on a banana peel in a tree. Made a fuss about it, contacted media, only to find out that guess what? A student simply ate a banana and there was no trash can around.

Or like this genius who thought a cover to a projector was a Klansman.


The reality is, leftists are obsessed with race (obvious insanity with identity politics) so they assume everyone else is too.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

You don't know for certain the comments were racist or that that the initial BBC guy's comment was either. His partner tells him it's racist and he responds he doesn't know that it was, he doesn't know the BBC guy's intention he says saying maybe he was racist, maybe not, but he doesn't know... but you do.

I'll tell you exactly what I KNOW. If you in any way compare a black person/child to a monkey, or agree with someone who does, you are going to have a very bad day. If you don't understand that in this day and age, then you've been living under a rock. His own partner understood it and if he didn't, or just ignored it, well then he's paying the price for it now.