Legalizing pot...

[TheySoSensitive]

How close are we to making this a reality in the good ol USA? I don't follow politics or anything remotely related so I'm out of the loop. Seems like a pretty common sense decision. Obviously you'd mirror the DUI laws...

Pros: tax money, economic boost from a newly legal industry, medical benefits, citizens who are hungry/happy/sleepy.

Cons: have to find a new place to waste war on drugs money.

Hopefully it's sooner rather than later. It's not like its difficult to find, and you'd be running a lot of dealers out of business or allowing them the chance to start a legitimate one.

 

[P.PattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor]

If tobacco and alcohol are legal, marijuana absolutely should be.

I think it's fairly likely to become legal, but I don't think its legality will spread quite as quickly as other social changes. Not basing that on anything in particular; just an opinion.

 

[TheySoSensitive]

Thought it would be a domino effect after some of the other states took the plunge and the hemp bill got passed.

Agree its only a matter of time...surely they've got enough research from the places overseas who have done this for years now. Like I said, I'm totally ignorant on how all of this works but it seems like a pretty simple decision.

 

[d2atTech]

it's already legal in colorado...

 

[Glochid]

I can tell you for a fact that it can be a miracle worker when consumed as an edible for pain relief. Instead of 50 dollars for 7 grams of a dried up plant, it would practically be free and a very effective form of pain relief could be had by those who can't afford to get bent over by pharmaceutical companies.

Then the federal government needs to decriminalize it so companies cant fire employees who do use it as alternative medicine in states where it is legal to do so.

 

[UKStoops81]

5-7 years

 

[AustinTXCat]

it's already legal in colorado...

+ Washington, Oregon and Alaska for recreational use. 19 others for medical MJ.

My prediction: We'll see increased legalization during the coming years, primarily in northern and western states. Midwest, southeast and Utah will lag behind others.

 

[jwheat]

Im just excited about growing 3 marijuana plants right beside the tomatos and peppers.

 

[theoledog]

any of us can get pot now if we want it and the only think making it legal is going to do is make it more expensive and put money in the pockets of politicians and fat cats..... ya gotta laugh when government wants to ax tobacco and legalize MJ..... be careful what you ask for.

 

[jwheat]

Make it more expensive? It will be legal for everyone to grow about three (3) plants. Its cheaper in Colorado by the quarter ounce than what you can get it here for that weight. But like I said, three plants will more than likely last me the whole year and I will have about 10-15 bucks in raising three, well taken care, of pot plants.

 

[We-Todd-Did]

Kentucky will pass an amendment declaring that recreation is to be only between one alcohol and one tobacco, the way our founders intended.

 

[rmattox]

Tobacco? I understand the health impact to both the user and the lesser effect those who breathe the smoke, but I don't have the problem with my wife and kids facing an oncoming driver who has just smoked 3 packs of marlboros that I do with them meeting the guy that has just soaked 4 Buds or smoked a joint.

Wouldn't have a problem with legalization if there was a way of making sure smokers smoked only at home and stayed there until the affects wore off....feel the same way about drinking. There can be absolutely zero denying that even one drink impacts the body and its functions; same with smoking pot. IMO, people who are not fully functional should not drive.

The way our country is headed, legalization will occur within the next decade.

Why do people have to have dope or alcohol to enjoy life and have a good time?

 

[funKYcat75]

Why do people have to have dope or alcohol to enjoy life and have a good time?

I think you could ask that question of any activity that isn't necessary for survival.

 

[jwheat]

We don't. But what about the people who get fed pain pill after pain pill. destroying their liver. That's okay though right?

 

[-LEK-]

Kentucky will pass an amendment declaring that recreation is to be only between one alcohol and one tobacco, the way our founders intended.

We can all see it coming, the legalization, however, KY will not be close to passing it. We will literally be the last state to pass any legislation. We have a bill introduced every year, it just never makes it out of either house.

 

[VT/UK Rondo]

Little Debbie, Hostess, Nabisco and Frito lay endorse this legalization.

 

[mashburned]

Have you been frozen the last 10 years? Pot is legal in a few states.

KY won't in the next 50 years. This police state is strong. Just recently they held a national "how to eradicate crops" seminar that they do yearly. That's one thing we spend money on. No telling how much we blow on helicopters.

Plus, personally, I don't want government in pot. The rules and regulations would make it not worth it, imho. Things are very good right now.

 

[mashburned]

any of us can get pot now if we want it and the only think making it legal is going to do is make it more expensive and put money in the pockets of politicians and fat cats..... ya gotta laugh when government wants to ax tobacco and legalize MJ..... be careful what you ask for.

Exactly.

What we really want out of this is freedom. Freedom to grow plants on property. Freedom to not be harassed.

You won't get that with government.

 

[jwheat]

If you can legally grow your own pot and go buy it in a store cheaper than what you give for it on the streets there is nothing but positive things there. What is the negative? How would the government even bother you unless you are growing fields of it or you own a pot store?

 

[krazykats]

There is a case from Colorado I believe that has finally reached the Supreme Court. Some dude lost his job because of dirty piss but in a state where it's legal. I haven't followed it but I assumed that case would impact the domino effect.

Anyone who thinks Kentucky won't legalize it is not wrong honestly because it sounds as if it will get a huge fight. However once these farmers and landowners see how their land can grow profits I think a shift of opinion will force the state to accept it. A lot of money being passed up on.

 

[mashburned]

They'll find a way. Taxes. Silly rules and regulations. I don't trust em. People making rules about pot that have never even smoked it. It will be a bureaucratic mess. I am certain.

 

[jwheat]

There is a case from Colorado I believe that has finally reached the Supreme Court. Some dude lost his job because of dirty piss but in a state where it's legal. I haven't followed it but I assumed that case would impact the domino effect.

Anyone who thinks Kentucky won't legalize it is not wrong honestly because it sounds as if it will get a huge fight. However once these farmers and landowners see how their land can grow profits I think a shift of opinion will force the state to accept it. A lot of money being passed up on.

No doubt. We may be one of the last states but it will be sooner rather than later. Kentucky will thrive if pot is legalized.

They'll find a way. Taxes. Silly rules and regulations. I don't trust em. People making rules about pot that have never even smoked it. It will be a bureaucratic mess. I am certain.

Please don't vote no because you think that. They can put whatever rules and regulations on it that they want.

The bottom line is I will be able to go into a store and buy an ounce of weed (Colorado residents can buy an ounce at a time, out of staters quarter ounce) for cheaper than what I am paying for it illegally.

I won't have to bust my *** to find it if my dealers are out (problem I am facing right now). The only people this hurts are bible huggers and drug dealers.

 

[VT/UK Rondo]

Marijuana is a gateway to harsher drugs, havent you heard? One day your blazing up a doobie, next thing you know your chasing that dragon. Quit sitting around listening to that rock and roll and badmouthing your country and get a haircut you damn hippies!

 

[krazykats]

So one reason to not legalize it is because of the rules and regs? Really!

Ever think about the rules and regs on it now? Forget that roach in your ashtray once and it may cost you a trip to jail for a few hours! F that noise!

Want to smoke in your rocking chair on the front porch, well GFY!

Not sure about a rules and regs concern, seems odd.

 

[jwheat]

Smoke a doob one day and youre dirty for 30

 

[-LEK-]

Exactly.

What we really want out of this is freedom. Freedom to grow plants on property. Freedom to not be harassed.

You won't get that with government.

I have heard this argument, and the other addition is the revenue it brings for certain people, i.e small time dealers, cuts out revenue. Obviously, we shouldnt encourage drug dealers, but for some, that extra source of income is all the difference and worth the time (talking a dude who sells to a few people, not Escabar). At least a thought.

 

[Lightbringer123]

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...eme-court-affirms-lower-court-rulings-medical

I'm on my phone but above link shows Marajuana is still not permitted federally so you can't smoke and keep a job if the employer says no to drug use...

 

[jwheat]

When its legal the small guy can grow his own three plants and yield at least a pound off each and he is selling more weed with less money in it. Granted he won't be able to charge as much as before he can still dive under what the dispensary is going to charge.

 

[krazykats]

That is correct but the is a case disputing it currently under review. So the decision will impact the speed of which states legalize it.

 

[DaBossIsBack]

Tobacco? I understand the health impact to both the user and the lesser effect those who breathe the smoke, but I don't have the problem with my wife and kids facing an oncoming driver who has just smoked 3 packs of marlboros that I do with them meeting the guy that has just soaked 4 Buds or smoked a joint.

Wouldn't have a problem with legalization if there was a way of making sure smokers smoked only at home and stayed there until the affects wore off....feel the same way about drinking. There can be absolutely zero denying that even one drink impacts the body and its functions; same with smoking pot. IMO, people who are not fully functional should not drive.

The way our country is headed, legalization will occur within the next decade.

Why do people have to have dope or alcohol to enjoy life and have a good time?

Dope Hahahahaha "He's on that dope, Loretta!"

 

[From-the-stands]

There is a case from Colorado I believe that has finally reached the Supreme Court. Some dude lost his job because of dirty piss but in a state where it's legal. I haven't followed it but I assumed that case would impact the domino effect.

Anyone who thinks Kentucky won't legalize it is not wrong honestly because it sounds as if it will get a huge fight. However once these farmers and landowners see how their land can grow profits I think a shift of opinion will force the state to accept it. A lot of money being passed up on.

Yeah maybe that's the path to legalization. I was thinking nothing would have to change because no one is being discriminated against, like with gay marriage. Couple that with with the economic benefits to states and property owners and we might have a winner.

 

[Big_Blue79]

It's absurd it's not legal already. There will be some problems, like people smoking and driving (Sheldon Richardson like), but there are problems with people driving when they are eating, texting, drunk, distracted, tired, on prescription drugs, on over the counter allergy medication (seriously, that stuff knocks me out), and while female. No one is pushing to eliminate drive thrus, phones, radio, alarm clocks, prescription drugs, allergy medication, and women.

 

[jwheat]

The biggest driving impairment is being from Ohio

 

[DaBossIsBack]

It's absurd it's not legal already. There will be some problems, like people smoking and driving (Sheldon Richardson like), but there are problems with people driving when they are eating, texting, drunk, distracted, tired, on prescription drugs, on over the counter allergy medication (seriously, that stuff knocks me out), and while female. No one is pushing to eliminate drive thrus, phones, radio, alarm clocks, prescription drugs, allergy medication, and women.

You forgot Asians.

 

[buster3.0]

I think it will be a cold day in hell before the politicians down here in the bible belt states consider legalizing pot. Or, it would be 60 years from now long after other regions of the country have legalized it. Heck, it wasn't until only a few years ago before they finally were able to overcome the church lobby and allow alcohol to be sold on Sundays.

Plus, the local jail/police industries would take a big hit. Do you know how many local inmates are just people who got busted with weed? Those people do free labor for the Counties when they are incarcerated and it helps justify these huge and expensive jails that just got built. Plus, a lot of these new toys and cars local cops have are a result of money seizures from weed runners. Without the illegal drug trade, many of the local police departments down here wouldn't have any of that stuff, especially since they won't allocate property tax revenues to cover it.

 

[jwheat]

Or we can start putting real criminals in jail. There is no way that it will be as long as some of you think. No way. Do you think we will let all the other states bring in money and not us? In the poorest part of the country?

 

[mashburned]

Or we can start putting real criminals in jail. There is no way that it will be as long as some of you think. No way. Do you think we will let all the other states bring in money and not us? In the poorest part of the country?

Yes, absolutely. I believe that 200%. That's the safest bet in this thread, imho.

I don't think we'll ever see full legalization in the south. MMJ and it will be highly "regulated". Will probably be as effective as the pill ordeal. Meaning, pot will be everywhere (like it is now) but there will be grey areas to circumvent the medical part, and police will spend a lot of money and time trying to enforce the responsible sale of pot for the responsible patients who need it.

Our best bet is federal law. And that's not a bad bet. I could see that happening in 10+ years. If it's up to KY, though, we'll be waiting a long time.

 

[BBdK]

Or we can start putting real criminals in jail. There is no way that it will be as long as some of you think. No way. Do you think we will let all the other states bring in money and not us? In the poorest part of the country?

Umm, of course they will. Just look at how much money we let go to IN/OH with Casinos just across the border, when GAMBLING (horseys, lotto, Keno, etc) is already are already one of the biggest $$$$ producers for our state. [eyeroll]

Welcome to Kentucky.

 

[jwheat]

I say within ten years it will be legal everywhere. Colorado is setting a good example and Im sure once it hits full stride in the other places that have legalized we will see the domionos start to fall.

 

[mashburned]

Where are we with legalization? Oregon, Washington, DC, and Colorado? Plus, around 20 MMJ states? Legalization been happening the past 5 years or so? Medical as far back as 10? Or am I way off? Not a lot of states have legalized it. Hell California never even did, right? Probably more legit and crooked money to be had keeping it MMj if I had to guess.