Well hell BH, I dont agree with about half of that but damned If it wasnt the most intertaining post Ive read in awhile.
Legalizing pot...
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My point was I tried tobacco first. Pot was third on the list. I was implying tobacco and alcohol - the legal ones - were just as much of a "gateway" as weed.
The Puritans, which I use to refer to southern Protestants, lobby against anything "immoral." There's still counties in Kentucky where an adult can't legally purchase alcohol - a legal product all over the world - based on someone a long time ago's religious beliefs. An earlier post about Kentucky still having 39 "uncool" counties if pot becomes legal was spot on.That's how the Puritans will eff it up.
I get that you're somehow involved with law enforcement/corrections, and could see why that line of work wouldn't want legal pot. Potheads are generally an easy bust and a quick $100-300 fine for every municiaplity in the U.S. ("cool" states notwithstanding).
Having to catch real criminals who are doing violent things and making crazy drugs like meth with a trailer full of guns is much harder than busting a guy who smokes/grows a plant, listens to Pink Floyd, plays video games and eats an unhealthy amount of Doritos.
I get that you're somehow involved with law enforcement/corrections, and could see why that line of work wouldn't want legal pot. Potheads are generally an easy bust and a quick $100-300 fine for every municiaplity in the U.S. ("cool" states notwithstanding).
Having to catch real criminals who are doing violent things and making crazy drugs like meth with a trailer full of guns is much harder than busting a guy who smokes/grows a plant, listens to Pink Floyd, plays video games and eats an unhealthy amount of Doritos.
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It should be absolutely legal. You can find angry people after a few drinks who are ready to fight, steal, and become out of control. meanwhile, you never see an angry stoner. The only crime they commit is stealing a bag of chips
My point was I tried tobacco first. Pot was third on the list. I was implying tobacco and alcohol - the legal ones - were just as much of a "gateway" as weed.
The Puritans, which I use to refer to southern Protestants, lobby against anything "immoral." There's still counties in Kentucky where an adult can't legally purchase alcohol - a legal product all over the world - based on someone a long time ago's religious beliefs. An earlier post about Kentucky still having 39 "uncool" counties if pot becomes legal was spot on.That's how the Puritans will eff it up.
I get that you're somehow involved with law enforcement/corrections, and could see why that line of work wouldn't want legal pot. Potheads are generally an easy bust and a quick $100-300 fine for every municiaplity in the U.S. ("cool" states notwithstanding).
Having to catch real criminals who are doing violent things and making crazy drugs like meth with a trailer full of guns is much harder than busting a guy who smokes/grows a plant, listens to Pink Floyd, plays video games and eats an unhealthy amount of Doritos.
Son, sitting around giggling at "Good Burger", downing Doritos and Yoohoo and rocking out on your bongo drum to 80s metal bands in your Nag Champa infused Baja hoodie is no way to go through life. The first step is admitting you have a problem and then turning your life over to God. I suggest a nice flat top buzz cut, tie and blazer and some sort of leather shoes that dont show your toes. If you act now there is hope that you might avoid a full blown addiction to heroin.
I appreciate the humor but... were pot legal in Ky if the same rules as Colorado were applied, mom and pop wouldn't be the ones growing the weed. There it is grown in industrial grow houses where every plant is bar coded and every bud harvested is accounted.
I thought when pot was legalized the price would drop quite a bit. Now I realize pot wasn't ever going to be legalized until the price got high enough for the government to get enough tax off of it.
You can grow 4 plants in Ky for personal use and it's just a misdemeanor. Pretty sure you can grow a little for yourself in CO as well.
Doesn't matter how legal the states make it, insurance companies will still force your employer to fire you if you smoke it at home.
You can grow 4 plants in Ky for personal use and it's just a misdemeanor. Pretty sure you can grow a little for yourself in CO as well.
Doesn't matter how legal the states make it, insurance companies will still force your employer to fire you if you smoke it at home.
Can you imagine just how big of an economic boon commercial marijuana cultivation would bring to Kentucky? Fields and fields of marijuana instead of tobacco. Kentucky would be raking in the money.
I saw that 4 plants and under was a misdemeanor but that could also include up to a year in jail. I am curious as to whether some old school judge would be willing to throw the book at a 'drug addict' or not.
Anyone have a clue as to whether its usually just a fine?
You could grow/traffic a felony amount and serve no time. Happened twice in my town the past 2 years.
I don't know the particulars, but I know these folks didn't spend time in jail after they were bailed out. One was flying in 5 lbs at a time. Soccer mom type. Go figure. Other idiot was growing 1 above misdemeanor amount.
These were "good people", of course.
I don't know the particulars, but I know these folks didn't spend time in jail after they were bailed out. One was flying in 5 lbs at a time. Soccer mom type. Go figure. Other idiot was growing 1 above misdemeanor amount.
These were "good people", of course.
Ha, I just saw that I had posted that. Was drunk on moonshine that night, very drunk by the time I posted that. Spelling was pretty good though. I'll leave it there but I wouldn't post it today.
As far as growing, I forget what it is but most of the plants police find die before becoming "evidence" therefore can't/aren't used in most cases.
Now that excluded major growing facilities obviously those type busts provide plenty. But in your smaller homegrown to supply personal habit type bust there has been enough cases won by defendant to not be Perseus aggressively anymore.
Now that was as of 2002 when I was busted in university commons in Lex and my roommate lied to us about his growing 4 plants which was found by police and more like 20+. They told us most plants would be tossed out because of what I explained above. Turned out to be true.
Now that excluded major growing facilities obviously those type busts provide plenty. But in your smaller homegrown to supply personal habit type bust there has been enough cases won by defendant to not be Perseus aggressively anymore.
Now that was as of 2002 when I was busted in university commons in Lex and my roommate lied to us about his growing 4 plants which was found by police and more like 20+. They told us most plants would be tossed out because of what I explained above. Turned out to be true.
Its not so much the initial penalty its what goes on your record. Get pulled for a traffic violation and what do you think is going to happen when they run your name and it comes back that you have a prior for marijuana cultivation?
And If somebody got caught with 2 kilos of marijuana and did not do time...well use your common sense there. Nobody just walks away from that.
And If somebody got caught with 2 kilos of marijuana and did not do time...well use your common sense there. Nobody just walks away from that.
Not following. An 1/8th is half quarter or 3.5 grams. so is it a quality/quantity difference? 50/100 here, and in some places, you can still get a good quarter for $45, but it wont be that knucklehead.
I don't fool with the brown clown, man..why i said in some places, and my car dont go over there.
What store are you talking about anyway?
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We're getting close.
Fully aware of the issues with this proposal and the limitations it places on the market.
Doubt this has a shot this year written the way it is....but it's a start. Really don't know, though.
Fully aware of the issues with this proposal and the limitations it places on the market.
Doubt this has a shot this year written the way it is....but it's a start. Really don't know, though.
When it's legal me you and wildman willy are having a smoke session.
Ohio is voting very soon, right? Surely they will pass it.
There's pros/cons to it. Will just bring more out-of-towners to KY. Probably cut out some of the Michigan traffic, which is good. Be easier to get ahold of. Our cops are going to love it. Growing pains.
There's pros/cons to it. Will just bring more out-of-towners to KY. Probably cut out some of the Michigan traffic, which is good. Be easier to get ahold of. Our cops are going to love it. Growing pains.
Colorado raked in $53 million in tax revenue just from the sale of pot in the first year alone. The overall impact on tax revenue based on increased tourism was much, much higher. I know people who spent $1000 traveling to CO for a weekend last year, and only spent maybe $20-30 of the $1000 on weed. The hotels, restaurants, etc. are seeing a big boost as well.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/12/news/economy/colorado-marijuana-tax-revenue/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/12/news/economy/colorado-marijuana-tax-revenue/
Colorado seems to be working out great(making a funny here), but I think I read where you can still buy it cheaper on the market than in the store. I don't understand those who are more obsessed with legalizing drugs than in the country going to hell in a hand basket and drugs are a major part of the problem...And please don't tell me I don't have a clue. When you have a son who is a heroin addict and you have to deal with it then you can come back and talk to me. And yes, he started his journey by smoking pot.
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Your son being a heroin addict has nothing to do with the legalization of marijuana. There isn't anybody in this thread crying for heroine to be legal. Or Meth or crack cocaine. If your son smoked weed everyday, like millions of other functionable people, instead of banging heroine you would probably be on here saying he was addicted to the marijuana too.
Not once, after smoking did I ever say to myself, "Damn, that smoke was good, but now I really wanna try some inserts name of other drug."
You are correct I most certainly would. Anyone that "has" to use some kind of substance on a daily basis whether it be alcohol or drugs has a major problem in my opinion. I have a friend whose son doesn't work on a steady basis because a lot of the jobs he applies for require you to be drug tested and he will tell you that he is not giving up his weed for any job. You going to tell me that is not an addiction? And he has a wife and children . That is pitiful
You may not , but you surely would admit that a lot of people do and that MJ is almost always a starting point.
I agree to an extent. There is a huge drug problem in this nation. We like to point fingers and judge the users. Understood and justified, imho. You're not wrong. Addiction is an issue.
Here's my problem: the system rewards pillheads. Your friend would be better off in the job world if he was addicted to painkillers and amphetamines.
I guess it requires a tad bit of mental fortitude to not start banging heroine after youve smoked your first doob. I have smoked plenty of weed. I have tried acid and shrooms and thats about the extent of my drug use. I have been around heroine, crack, meth, pills and I have never had the slightest desire to try any of them. Should have raised a stronger boy.
I agree. I have an Obese cousin. He loves oreos. Thing is, he started out on cheerios, then moved to bread. Next thing you know it, doughnuts. Just upgrading carb to carb. Cheerios is a gateway food to being fat.
I have a cousin who is a pill head. Takes pills all the time. First it was aspirin. Then he moved on to ibuprofen. Then robotussin, then on to the hard stuff. Aspirin is a gateway drug.
Its funny that the myth of the gateway drug from the 80s is still perpetrated. Doesnt matter that scientific study after scientific study, logical reasoning etc, its just a myth that wont die.
Its only perpetuated from people who like sluggercatfan who probably has never smoked weed before in his life. His son fell in love with the high. You can't go chasing that dragon. Don't blame it on the simple plant that grows from our precious earth. Blame it on the upbringing of the mentally weak individual.
No ...He would still fail a drug test as they check for more than MJ...Look I'm not a prude or uneducated about this stuff. I'm what you guys consider a part of the old hippie generation and I've seen enough stuff go down, especially in Nam, that it scared the hell out of me. Now dealing with a son who is addicted I'm even more against it. I do think that sentences for mj sometimes can be a little harsh, but when dealing with those that sell the heavier stuff I think they should throw the book at them.