LOCKED - The Bears are adding a field level club in 2015...
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I'm currently trying to come up with an appropriate punishment and I have a few ideas: 1)I post a pic of him holding a sign apologizing for being dumb here on this thread or 2) He joins SPS and makes it known who he is so you guys can keep correcting him for being dumb.
For what its worth I disagree with the entire premise of adding new field level club seats. The designs are flawed and I agree that it will cause all kinds of issues when cups full of liquid are tossed on these people. They need to save the money and do something else entirely.
You can punish him by sending to his room until he can explain how adding a field level club zone will add an additional 10,000 seats.
My guess...
OM's athletic academic building is VERY close to the North Endzone, and anything more than a minimal lower level expansion will force them to tear down that building.
The field level club level seats aren't NEW seats, they're replacing current student seating (bleachers). If they JUST build the field level club level then they will lose capacity by trading packed student bleachers with chairbacks and whatever border they will build around them.
If they build new suites on top of the current suites in the South Endzone and/or fill in the lower level in the North Endzone, that will increase capacity. Keep in mind, though that their current metal bleachers in the North Endzone extend almost to each side, so filling in with concrete bleachers all the way across won't increase capacity much at all. View attachment 937
OM's athletic academic building is VERY close to the North Endzone, and anything more than a minimal lower level expansion will force them to tear down that building.
The field level club level seats aren't NEW seats, they're replacing current student seating (bleachers). If they JUST build the field level club level then they will lose capacity by trading packed student bleachers with chairbacks and whatever border they will build around them.
If they build new suites on top of the current suites in the South Endzone and/or fill in the lower level in the North Endzone, that will increase capacity. Keep in mind, though that their current metal bleachers in the North Endzone extend almost to each side, so filling in with concrete bleachers all the way across won't increase capacity much at all. View attachment 937
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This. They are just chomping at the bits to trump State somehow. That's all it is.
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Hey, I actually partied with Deshea once
it was in Tunica, we were standing next to each other watching a boxing match, and ended up partying that night. Fun guy.
it was in Tunica, we were standing next to each other watching a boxing match, and ended up partying that night. Fun guy.
add 10,000?
So, you're gonna take out the roughly 4,200 that are presently there, and add 14,200? For a net of 10,000 additional seats? I See...
So, you're gonna take out the roughly 4,200 that are presently there, and add 14,200? For a net of 10,000 additional seats? I See...
What do you consider much at all? I think it would be at least a 4k increase over the bleachers.
The redesigned north endzone that came out under a year ago did not have premium seating. Visually, it's absolutely horrible.
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/umaaf/forward-together/campaign-details.html
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/umaaf/forward-together/campaign-details.html
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question for the bear lurkers......what is the capacity of the current NORTH endzone that has the temporary bleachers? i ask because it is a pretty large section and if you bowl it off like this:
you wont be adding many seats at all because the current bleachers are pretty large as far as temporary seating goes.
in the pic above, you would just be adding seating enough to close up the open areas, which isnt that large of a space. as you already know, because of the of location of those newly built academic support buildings, you would not be able to advance the stadium taller without the removal of a building or two. for the endzones to be symmetrical, you would be required to demolish newly built buildings.
anywho, im curious what the current capacity is on the north endzone because it looks far more substantial than the one we had.
you wont be adding many seats at all because the current bleachers are pretty large as far as temporary seating goes.
in the pic above, you would just be adding seating enough to close up the open areas, which isnt that large of a space. as you already know, because of the of location of those newly built academic support buildings, you would not be able to advance the stadium taller without the removal of a building or two. for the endzones to be symmetrical, you would be required to demolish newly built buildings.
anywho, im curious what the current capacity is on the north endzone because it looks far more substantial than the one we had.
The redesigned north endzone that came out under a year ago did not have premium seating. It's really horrible looking.
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/umaaf/forward-together/campaign-details.html
Frankly, that proposed expansion looks God-awful.
How about ...
a one year 'time out' from posting for BOTH you and your nephew (wink wink)
Take a break.
a one year 'time out' from posting for BOTH you and your nephew (wink wink)
Take a break.
No premium seating in North Endzone..Nada..
I assume all they will do is bowl it in...
per the article
[h=3]Construction Timeline[/h] It is expected that the south endzone renovation will only take one off season to complete. We plan to put the project up for bid in late fall 2014, with construction to begin in early 2015. It is anticipated that the new club, concourse and suites will be finished and completed in time for the 2015 season.
It is the goal of the athletic department to then begin construction on the north endzone after 2015 season with completion before the 2016 season. No premium seating options will be offered in the north endzone at this time. Concept drawings and more information on the north endzone will be released at a later date.
I assume all they will do is bowl it in...
per the article
[h=3]Construction Timeline[/h] It is expected that the south endzone renovation will only take one off season to complete. We plan to put the project up for bid in late fall 2014, with construction to begin in early 2015. It is anticipated that the new club, concourse and suites will be finished and completed in time for the 2015 season.
It is the goal of the athletic department to then begin construction on the north endzone after 2015 season with completion before the 2016 season. No premium seating options will be offered in the north endzone at this time. Concept drawings and more information on the north endzone will be released at a later date.
I don't understand why you wouldn't add premium seating, especially from a business perspective? That's where your revenue is... So basically they are saying:
1. We have ZERO interst in premium seating from our fans... Or...
2. They want to expand as cheap as possible for the sole reason of not allowing us to have a bigger stadium.
It makes absolutely zero sense not to add premium seating. None.
1. We have ZERO interst in premium seating from our fans... Or...
2. They want to expand as cheap as possible for the sole reason of not allowing us to have a bigger stadium.
It makes absolutely zero sense not to add premium seating. None.
This is the real Red87 posting. My nephew has been banned from my computer for good. Again, I'm sorry for the idiocy earlier guys.
I think that's why they are expanding premium seating in the south endzone. They don't have room in the North unless they tear down those buildings that were built in 2005.
From an outsiders perspective, it seems the important issue SHOULD be increased revenue (premium seats) and NOT capacity. That stadium is currently big enough... Adding only capacity doesn't make much sense... I guess they will convert the north EZ to students and renovate the south?
They are going to be giving away tickets to the Boy Scouts and Public Schools just to fill up that stadium.
"See look, now we have a bigger stadium... and I told you we would fill it up"
"See look, now we have a bigger stadium... and I told you we would fill it up"
They are adding new Suites in the South Endzone...
The field level club will make more sense if they re-seat the students to the north end-zone in 2016.
But, I can't believe they are adding bricks...
The field level club will make more sense if they re-seat the students to the north end-zone in 2016.
But, I can't believe they are adding bricks...
You sold 98% of your tickets last year, you didn't fill 98% of your stadium. My guess is that you know this since you likely went to games a saw empty sections. You have no need to expand the capacity of your stadium, because you don't fill your current stadium with actual bodies. Premium seating makes much more sense, unless your only objective is to have more seats than MSU.
Its somewhere around 4-5 thousand with the bleachers they have right now. As for the capacity of VHS when its all said and done, I imagine it will be somewhere around 66,000 once the endzone is bowled in. In 2002 they added 10,003 seats with the expansion but that has all of the club and upper level seats factored in. I'm not sure they will do the same for the other side.question for the bear lurkers......what is the capacity of the current NORTH endzone that has the temporary bleachers? i ask because it is a pretty large section and if you bowl it off like this:
you wont be adding many seats at all because the current bleachers are pretty large as far as temporary seating goes.
in the pic above, you would just be adding seating enough to close up the open areas, which isnt that large of a space. as you already know, because of the of location of those newly built academic support buildings, you would not be able to advance the stadium taller without the removal of a building or two. for the endzones to be symmetrical, you would be required to demolish newly built buildings.
anywho, im curious what the current capacity is on the north endzone because it looks far more substantial than the one we had.
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It looks like the new north endzone does not have any more rows than the current metal bleachers, and therefore would *only* fill in the corners to the two main stands. Fewer than 2,000 new seats.
Those VHS north endzone seats were narrowed and renumbered many years ago and are really really narrow (you could still see the old numbers when I sat there in the 2000's). Those are mostly visitor seats, so they don't care if we're comfortable. If the students are put there, they might leave them narrow, but otherwise they might lose capacity by returning them to normal width in an expansion.
If you notice, each row in State's new expansion has more leg room than either of our current sideline grandstands.
Those VHS north endzone seats were narrowed and renumbered many years ago and are really really narrow (you could still see the old numbers when I sat there in the 2000's). Those are mostly visitor seats, so they don't care if we're comfortable. If the students are put there, they might leave them narrow, but otherwise they might lose capacity by returning them to normal width in an expansion.
If you notice, each row in State's new expansion has more leg room than either of our current sideline grandstands.
No way it goes up to 66K...
From looking at the pics of the design, no way you can go to 66K.
You are at 60,580 now and we are going to 61,337. I predict your new capacity will be just over 62,000.
From looking at the pics of the design, no way you can go to 66K.
You are at 60,580 now and we are going to 61,337. I predict your new capacity will be just over 62,000.
That would be a dick move on our part if that's true. If we do that I hope it isn't just to one up MSU.
I have to say that when you look at the aesthetics there have been some interesting decisions made. The old press box is that standard flat-roof. The club level is a curvy, ultra-modern looking roof, and then the end zone suites have an angled roof like both our baseball stadiums. It looks like a stadium that has been built over a number of years by different people with completely different ideas. And whoever decided to build those buildings right up against the North end zone needs to be shot. They completely screwed any possibility of doing a decent renovation there. Ole Miss will jump up to 62-64k and they will be done. MSU still has options in the Seal Club end zone. The only thing I can even think Ole Miss could do is renovate the press box and build up around the sides of it (not a lot of bang for the buck there though).
Odd stadium those Rebs have....
Is it really possible in 2005 they built somethign that would limit football expansion? I know growth has been explosive lately, but it's hard to believe anybody was that short sighted.
And I think either school adding capacity at this point is borderline stupid, unless it's being done to get more premium seating. With our population, and how good the tv experience is getting, I don't think offering somebody an aluminum bleacher in the endzone is going to cut it for either school.
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