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Chesusdog

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I honesty think Lebby will grow into a really good coach. Hes still learning on the job. It sucks for us that we get to experience the growing pains, but that's the route State keeps deciding to take. That said, LSU fans aren't going to stand for bringing in an unproven coach... though at this point, who can they afford and who would take that clusterfuck of a job?
 

aTotal360

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He gets the benefit of the doubt for working under Kiffin and his FIL.
 

paindonthurt

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I honesty think Lebby will grow into a really good coach. Hes still learning on the job. It sucks for us that we get to experience the growing pains, but that's the route State keeps deciding to take. That said, LSU fans aren't going to stand for bringing in an unproven coach... though at this point, who can they afford and who would take that clusterfuck of a job?
No its not the route we keep deciding to take.

Since 1990 we've hired 7 coaches.

2 with significant head coaching experience and 5 coordinators.

The 5 coordinators has a lot more to do with who we could get than just "the route state keeps deciding to take".
 

patdog

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I'm a lebby guy but lets pump the brakes here.

Overly emotional either way is a bad thing.
We were debating whether he would be fired at the end of the year just last week. Of course he wasn't, but there was a real discussion about it. He's got a LONG way to go if he wants a better job than Mississippi State, and it's not going to happen this year without a couple more wins at least.
 

paindonthurt

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We were debating whether he would be fired at the end of the year just last week. Of course he wasn't, but there was a real discussion about it. He's got a LONG way to go if he wants a better job than Mississippi State, and it's not going to happen this year without a couple more wins at least.
He looks to be pretty good. Even after the Texas game regardless of what some of you think.

But calling him a consistent playoff maker is a large stretch at this point.
 

Chesusdog

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No its not the route we keep deciding to take.

Since 1990 we've hired 7 coaches.

2 with significant head coaching experience and 5 coordinators.

The 5 coordinators has a lot more to do with who we could get than just "the route state keeps deciding to take".
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You say its not the route we're taking then make my point for me.

Since Sherill, we have:
Croom- no HC experience
Mullen -no HC experience
Moorhead- no HC experience
Leach- HC experience
Arnett- no HC experience
Lebby- no HC experience

Not sure what you thought I meant but I'm saying we have by and large hired coaches that had no previous experience.
 

dudehead

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You say its not the route we're taking then make my point for me.

Since Sherill, we have:
Croom- no HC experience
Mullen -no HC experience
Moorhead- no HC experience
Leach- HC experience
Arnett- no HC experience
Lebby- no HC experience

Not sure what you thought I meant but I'm saying we have by and large hired coaches that had no previous experience.
I think he's saying it's not by choice but that we got the best we could afford which usually is a coordinator.
 

ckDOG

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We're going to have to raise and extend him to keep him here. He's doing a great job. People are noticing that and this offseason is going to be batshit crazy.
 

GloryDawg

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Mar 3, 2005
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If he goes 7-5, he will get a look. That is a real possibility. Missouri is without it's qb and Ole Miss is a winnable game at home.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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You say its not the route we're taking then make my point for me.

Since Sherill, we have:
Croom- no HC experience
Mullen -no HC experience
Moorhead- no HC experience
Leach- HC experience
Arnett- no HC experience
Lebby- no HC experience

Not sure what you thought I meant but I'm saying we have by and large hired coaches that had no previous experience.
Arnett was a Band-Aid.
 
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Bullldawg78

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You say its not the route we're taking then make my point for me.

Since Sherill, we have:
Croom- no HC experience
Mullen -no HC experience
Moorhead- no HC experience
Leach- HC experience
Arnett- no HC experience
Lebby- no HC experience

Not sure what you thought I meant but I'm saying we have by and large hired coaches that had no previous experience.
And this is the problem, we keep hiring coordinators and giving them on the job training! If you want to be ahead coach, be a damn head coach, hire someone who runs your offense and manage the program!!!
 
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State fans seem to be developmentally challenged. Ive had several alumni and fans from schools other than MSU tell me they think Lebby is a good HC. He was olemiss’ plan for when lane left.
 
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Dawgzilla2

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They're not going after an "up and comer". Their base will demand a proven head coach.
As I posted in another thread, one half of the coaches in the Top 20 right now are in their first head coaching gig. Only 3 active coaches have won a national championship, and all 3 of them are in the first, and probably only, head coaching job.

HC experience is over rated. Their are certain leadership skills and effective head coach needs, but you can acquire those skills without a head coaching job.
 

onewoof

Heisman
Mar 4, 2008
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I'm a lebby guy but lets pump the brakes here.

Overly emotional either way is a bad thing.
LSU is looking for their Saban. The analogy for us is this is their O'Connor moment. They are done messing around. Just as we expect/demand to go to Omaha regularly in baseball, they are demanding regular playoff appearances now like Bama.
 
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After their Asst AD came out and said, "We have to be in the Playoffs every year," the only reason to take the LSU job is for the buyout.
 

paindonthurt

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You say its not the route we're taking then make my point for me.

Since Sherill, we have:
Croom- no HC experience
Mullen -no HC experience
Moorhead- no HC experience
Leach- HC experience
Arnett- no HC experience
Lebby- no HC experience

Not sure what you thought I meant but I'm saying we have by and large hired coaches that had no previous experience.
My point is we don’t do that just bc we think that’s the best option. Sometimes it’s our only option.
 
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paindonthurt

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LSU is looking for their Saban. The analogy for us is this is their O'Connor moment. They are done messing around. Just as we expect/demand to go to Omaha regularly in baseball, they are demanding regular playoff appearances now like Bama.
Cool story
 

bulldoghair

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Arnett was a Band-Aid.
No Arnett was a leap of faith and a logical hire, in hopes to keep everything continuing in the same method of operations. Everyone or at least the fans thought he would promote from with in offensively and he would call the defense from the start. Arnett either went rouge or the powers that He didn’t vet him enough and find out what his plans exactly were. If the powers that be knew what his plans were and went along with it, which I don’t see how that couldn’t be the case, then our powers that be are dumbasses and there lies our continuing problem.
 

ckDOG

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So you are on the Lebby train?
He's doing a great job. If he kicks the recruiting/transfer game up after correcting course...

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If Lebby wins another game this year then he’ll get some national attention. If by some chance he pulls off two wins then we’ll be having to deal with Sexton’s extortion tactics because he’ll have him in everyone’s shortlist.
 
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Let me also say that we want to play that game every year because that means our program is clicking. The vast majority here would take Mullen 1.0 back in a heartbeat, and his name seemed to always be on shortlists.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Arnett was a Band-Aid.
Cool so we went from 83% with no HC experience to 80% with no HC experience, when you pointed out Arnett doesn't belong.

So glad you took up all our time to point out that infinitely significant piece of information. His point still stands and you are now dumber for attempting to argue with it by pointing out this incredibly eye-opening statistic that Arnett was not in fact, a typical head coach hire.

Thanks bruh!!!