I'll also point out that Moorhead had head coaching experience.
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I get this from other fan base but lsu has our qb from last year. They know that we had a true freshman starting the majority of the year. They should also see many teams were beating have lost their coach or getting close. I think Lebby to lsu is click bait. That said we're improving with better talent and more staff/ experience. We're on the right track and I haven't been irrational saying one week we need to fire him and the next week saying he's the guy. We just need to do like um and extend and keep the buy out low to keep him with the price depending on how he finishes and the market, how much interest he gets. That said we need his knowledge of what um is doing and keep working towards that such as recruiting, off field staff numbers, etc.
That may very well be true but it has no bearing in this case. They will demand a top tier coach, period.
Umm, Mizzou's defense is much better than Texas. Much better. They're top 10 nationally in several categories.
Arnett and Lebby were both really awful hiring processes. The only reason to promote Arnett was to attempt to maintain continuity, and he blew up the offensive side of the ball in a year where we had tons of upper classmen with experience that were suited for an air raid offense. His promotion should have been contingent on committing to the air raid for at least a year. I can completely understand if he was unwilling to do that. Hard to hire an OC for a hear, and I can undersatnd not wanting to tie yourself to an offense you don't want. But if he wasn't willing to do that, the answer was to look for somebody else.
Lebby's process was bad and it looks like it's not going to bite us. But while he's done a good job this year and we've improved a lot, we're also really lucky that our schedule isn't as hard as it looked. If it had been, we very well could have improved a lot and gone 4-8 and it would have been hard to keep fans engaged with that.
I'd honestly forgotten about that, and given how awful he was here and since getting fired from here, apparently not.
Sometimes, but I dont think that applies for them all. You can argue that after Sherrill and Croom we were such an unattractive job that we had to go coordinator route. I'd be more inclined to believe we could have more likely gotten an experienced HC. Less so after Croom. Maybe, maybe not. It was 20 years ago and my brain struggles with that ****. But after Mullen, we could have gotten a head coach with experience but we went with SloJo. I forgot he had a couple years at Fordham, but that hardly counts and he was, as it turned out, grossly unqualified. I'd bet we could have gotten another after Leach too, but we went with the unproven commodity again.
Not trying to get into a pissing match, just that I think in some of those instances we COULD have gotten someone with real experience but opted to take a risk with a coordinator.
This is kind of my point about coaches
if we had hired Kelly it would have been a homerun hire
EPIC
But if he didn’t win at lsu how the 17 was he gonna win here?
Hiting a coach is 17ing hard. At MSU it’s harder. We have a lot better shot at hiring an up and coming assistant than we do a successful current head coach.
Les Miles, Gus, Rich Rod, etc don’t fit the mold of successful when they are no longer having success.
In hindsight we should have looked closer at fordham. He had a scholarship advantage if im not mistaken.
Actually, I’m not sure. Just assumed they all used him, but I guess there is a reason why I shouldn’t assume.
Yep. I've posted about that numerous times. Fordham agreed with their conference to not be eligible for the conference championship or even the CG in exchange for being the only school in their conference allowed to offer scholarships.
HUGE advantage.
Moorhead had HC experience. He was one of the hottest properties out there the cycle we hired him too. Everyone thought that was a home run hire. Hiring a coach is a crap shoot.
I'm not going to pretend to know the state of LSU $'s, but it can't be an overly abundance of $ to throw away. They paid the Ogre and now Kelly (sp? Kelley) and are now going to have to shell out a butt load on another coach. At some point it'll catch up to you and a "Proven HC" ain't gonna be cheap.
not only over rated, but the proven part is based on what? only 1 coach per year can win the NC, and if that is what it takes to be "Proven" then that field of candidates if very limited and the ones who do win them tend to stay put.
