Nova is a quad 1 loss. Thats not a bad loss now
Marquette Must Win?
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When all is said and done, I doubt Villanova will be a bad loss.
A quad 1 loss to an unranked team on your home court is NOT a good loss. This is especially true when the BE is not well regarded this year and we have yet to beat any ranked teams. And NO NC State is not a ranked team. It was a rank team. You are banking of SHU beating UConn and St Johns and that is fool's gold at the moment.
The next 2 games will show just how promising this season will be. Not sure we can count the Marquette game as an automatic win and ditto for Creighton. These will be hard fought games.
The next 2 games will show just how promising this season will be. Not sure we can count the Marquette game as an automatic win and ditto for Creighton. These will be hard fought games.
Villanova is ranked No. 20 in the NET. As noted above it's a Q1 loss and it won't be considered a "bad" loss by anybody that matters.
If you think it's a "bad" loss because they haven't been ranked in meaningless votes by writers and coaches, have at it. It's totally backwards thinking.
If you think it's a "bad" loss because they haven't been ranked in meaningless votes by writers and coaches, have at it. It's totally backwards thinking.
Thank you for saving me the time it would have taken me to respond.
NO! I thought it was a bad loss because we lost on our home court! Home court losses are more impactful than losing away games! Losing on your home court is given more consideration than losing away games. So unless you lose to a top 20 team on your home court it is a negative. Let's say we lose to Villanova again when we play them on their home court. Both loses are not equal. The one on our home court is more negative. Therefore, a bad loss no matter how much you disagree with me.
Home and away is built into the NET. I agree that losing at home was bad because probably presented best chance to beat Nova this year, but maybe we get them at full strength next time.
We all recall the committee chair downgrading our UConn win because they missed their center for 12 minutes. LOL
Junior guard Zaide Lowery won't return to Marquette basketball team
The junior guard had a tumultuous two months, losing his starting spot and then not playing at all.
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Well we know that chemistry issues can kill a team.
Kind of a misleading tweet (which they subsequently revised). He’s leaving the team—they’re only disputing the reason.
Don’t lose to this mess. With this game, home to Creighton, and then at Georgetown, time to regroup after last week’s fiasco.
Marquette went from a nationally recognized and respected program to arguing with “whitesoxbill” on Twitter. Tough times over there.
While I fully understand that the Nova game was an important "opportunity" game for us, I do not see it at all as a "bad" loss; A "bad" loss to me is in a game that you absolutely SHOULD win, are the overwhelming favorite.
Clearly, that was not the case with the Nova game. Heck, calling all losses at home to unranked teams a "bad" loss would make nearly every conference home game for every conference team have all of their home losses, save UConn as the only ranked team, as "bad" losses.
The league may be down...but its not down THAT much.
If losing at home to an unranked team is a bad loss, then how come road teams have won so many league games already? Either a lot of bad losses are happening, or you have to come up with a much better criteria.
We give up open 3s and that is really bad v those two opponentsIf this team is what we think it is, this is realistic IMO:
1-3 Connecticut/St. John’s
3-3 Villanova/Creighton/Butler
8-2 GT/MU/PC/DEP/X
That’s 22-9, 12-8 overall.
Jeez, Sha is 1-12 against Villanova/Creighton.
I do think are ability to turn people over is our greatest strength, but only when we convert to points. We did not do that v VU until it was too late.
They are still dangerous and not so easy to win there. Does Hines play? If not Payne needs more shots than the Nova game. However, it can't be forced. The Hall has to keep the tempo up. Sha better have them ready like they were at K-State and at Providence. Love to get this one and come home to The Rock with momentum.
No I‘m not because your basis for a bad loss is silly.
Agreed.
That game against Villanova was hopefully an outlier. We’ll see. But it’s more on the offense.
**We took 18 more shots (!!!) and lost by 8.
**We doubled the offensive rebounds but were outscored on 2nd chance points.
**We shot 18/50 from 2, and if we were charting I’d say probably 7-8 we usually make (Clark 1/10, Williams 0/5, Simpkins 2/8). Those 3 alone missed so many high % shots.
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*Clark and ASM bring out really impacted flow in the first half. 6 total minutes between the two on the 1st Half? Then Clark tried to forced when he got to play and made a bigger mess of it.
**Hines DNP was a bigger deal against Villanova than Providence.
Hines back yet? Sha ha sgotts figure out backup pg situation. Runn budd 35mpg or have someone else handle to ball
Losing to a 5-8 team in turmoil who is #176 in the NET (KP #113) would be bad. Not disastrous on December 30th and only 3 games into the BE, but troubling coming off a bad game against Villanova. Marquette has lost 4 consecutive games, including by 9 to Georgetown at home and 21 to Creighton on the road. C'mon.
Marquette does nothing well. They're desperately changing lineups. We need to take it to them. Shaka Smart is facing the same questions Sha did last year, despite having deep pockets. His entire approach is now going to need to be reassessed after this.
I cannot see this as a "get right" game for them after a 10-day layoff. It sounds like us last year grasping for any hope of a turnaround. But you never know what happens in this crazy sport.
Get the win and hopefully a good crowed Sunday against Creighton. Really need to sweep this week and get to 13-2, 3-1.
Marquette does nothing well. They're desperately changing lineups. We need to take it to them. Shaka Smart is facing the same questions Sha did last year, despite having deep pockets. His entire approach is now going to need to be reassessed after this.
I cannot see this as a "get right" game for them after a 10-day layoff. It sounds like us last year grasping for any hope of a turnaround. But you never know what happens in this crazy sport.
Get the win and hopefully a good crowed Sunday against Creighton. Really need to sweep this week and get to 13-2, 3-1.
I guess someone could sleuth if he flew out to Milwaukee yesterday, but otherwise we will not know until around 4PM today when the availability lists are out to help the gamblers.
Hines hasn't played since Rutgers on December 13th, so I would assume also needs to ramp back up after 2+ weeks out.
Hines hasn't played since Rutgers on December 13th, so I would assume also needs to ramp back up after 2+ weeks out.
This is a gut check game. Villanova was a stinker on many fronts, but they were playing well.
Team got punched in the mouth so this is a great test on how they respond. They bounced back after the USC loss, so look to see if they can replicate that tonight,
Hoping Hines is in play tonight. We need him and it opens up our outside game too.
Thankfully no more Ighodoro, Jopllin and C. Jones to worry about anymore.
Marquette really struggling from three(30.5) percent. Ross and Gold are 5-30 in last few games from beyond the arc. Both have regressed so far this year from that standpoint. Saying for the second time that the key for The Hall is not commit silly fouls and allow Marquette to gain free points at the line.
Marquette really struggling from three(30.5) percent. Ross and Gold are 5-30 in last few games from beyond the arc. Both have regressed so far this year from that standpoint. Saying for the second time that the key for The Hall is not commit silly fouls and allow Marquette to gain free points at the line.