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How the scam works.



🚨 HONDURAS TPS: TERMINATED

Yesterday, Kristi Noem ended Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for Hondurans, a policy that shielded tens of thousands from deportation for 25 years. But the real story goes deeper: The United States created a closed loop.
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Each step was done at US taxpayer expense. Here's how:

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Honduras is an excellent example of how globalists created a "closed" migration loop. The International Republican Institute (IRI) helped legitimize a 2009 military coup through election observations. When it decided the government was legitimate, that enabled the justification for continued investment in it through foreign aid.

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The ruling coalition itself was disastrous, filled with accusations of human right violations. From 2008 to 2020, the subemployment rate in Honduras would more than double to 80%, causing mass displacements.

Despite this and despite accusations that the foreign aid was being misappropriated by its government and going only to its supporters, the United States continued sending it hundreds of millions of dollars every year.

All this while economic conditions and poverty worsened across the board.

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As the situation worsened, the U.S. quietly ramped up spending on migrant services. Refugee NGOs expanded. Border policies softened.

And now, after 15+ years of dysfunction, TPS ends. But not before it caused poverty, deaths, and upheavals.
 

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I told you Trump’s plan included a β€˜grace period’ where illegals would be encouraged to self-deport with help.

Once he made the decision to END that grace period…the first thing he’d do would be to beginning CUTTING OFF ALL FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO ILLEGALS.

Trump has now ended the grace period.

Illegals still here that aren’t working and have no means of supporting themselves independently of federal aid are going to begin leaving en masse.
 

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What a joke! Gas prices are increasing, interest rates are increasing, and the idiot has not implemented his tariff plan yet. These will be the worse four years in American history. These years will be worse than the civil war and not even close.
not sure this aged really well. Where I live, gas prices are down, interest rates are the same they were, and now Dems are complaining about the tariffs in effect
 
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and the democrat position is that devil trump is deporting masses as if it never happened during Biden and Obama administrations.
Did they spend more than the defense budget of Israel to do it? Did they raid farms, Home Depot parking lots and factories with masked agents with no identification? It's the way he's doing it that has Americans pissed off and it's actually back-firing on him badly. He has lost our trust on this issue.

 
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What a joke! Gas prices are increasing, interest rates are increasing, and the idiot has not implemented his tariff plan yet. These will be the worse four years in American history. These years will be worse than the civil war and not even close.


Loving Trump

More Trump More Trump Yeah
 
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Did they spend more than the defense budget of Israel to do it? Did they raid farms, Home Depot parking lots and factories with masked agents with no identification? It's the way he's doing it that has Americans pissed off and it's actually back-firing on him badly. He has lost our trust on this issue.


here's my opinion...we need immigrants....those that come in to the country legally.

If you are here illegally then you are ripe for deportation. If you are here illegally and are working without authorization then you are doubly ripe for deportation.

Having said that, it is terrible that for decades our Congress with both Dems and republicans in control have not been able to compromise on an immigration bill that solve our needs for workers and is humanitarian.

No matter how many republicans might complain, I think Trump's potential carve out for farm workers and hospitality workers is a right move- as long as the workers are here legally. And if they're here illegally, send them back and then bring them in legally. Give them cards for work so we have records for tax and benefit purposes. IMO we have to have some system of control and accountability.

Insofar as to how ICE goes about deporting people, I doubt there is a process that folks on the left would agree with.
 

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here's my opinion...we need immigrants....those that come in to the country legally.

If you are here illegally then you are ripe for deportation. If you are here illegally and are working without authorization then you are doubly ripe for deportation.

Having said that, it is terrible that for decades our Congress with both Dems and republicans in control have not been able to compromise on an immigration bill that solve our needs for workers and is humanitarian.

No matter how many republicans might complain, I think Trump's potential carve out for farm workers and hospitality workers is a right move- as long as the workers are here legally. And if they're here illegally, send them back and then bring them in legally. Give them cards for work so we have records for tax and benefit purposes. IMO we have to have some system of control and accountability.

Insofar as to how ICE goes about deporting people, I doubt there is a process that folks on the left would agree with.

The thing that Trump did which the Left didn't want was to secure the border. He did it and now the ******** narrative that it's impossible to secure the border is gone.. Forever. The party in power will change, but the fact won't change. It is possible to secure the border and everyone knows it whether they want to or not.

With a secure border then all kinds of solutions are possible. Deport them all works when no new illegals are coming in. Eventually you get those here illegally out, and you backfill them as needed with others waiting to come in. Doing something short of "deport them all " also works because of the same reason.

First rule of Holes is when you are in one, put down the shovel and stop making it deeper while you figure out a solution.
 
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The thing that Trump did which the Left didn't want was to secure the border. He did it and now the ******** narrative that it's impossible to secure the border is gone.. Forever. The party in power will change, but the fact won't change. It is possible to secure the border and everyone knows it whether they want to or not.

With a secure border then all kinds of solutions are possible. Deport them all works when no new illegals are coming in. Eventually you get those here illegally out, and you backfill them as needed with others waiting to come in. Doing something short of "deport them all " also works because of the same reason.

First rule of Holes is when you are in one, put down the shovel and stop making it deeper while you figure out a solution.
What the? How are you coming up with the bolded above?
 
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The Left includes more than the president. The way he managed the border made me sick and I qualify as the Left.
What will really make YOU sick is coming to the realization that if Biden hadn’t done what he did at the border, a Democrat would probably be in the Oval Office right now.
 
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What the? How are you coming up with the bolded above?
I think it's pretty well covered with the posts above this one. Unfettered immigration folllowed up with sweeping amnesty or lax voting laws are one component the democrat long game to solidify a grip on power. Part of that effort was to talk about all the reasons why the border couldn't be secured and to denigrat those who wanted to focus on that before having a conversating about amnesty or whatever. We're now past that pont. From here on out if the border becomes less secure it'll be obvious that it was a choice to do so. (It was always obvious but its even more so now).

edit: Just like everyone on the right doesn't like everythign that trump or the republicans in congress do, i'm sure that there are people on the left who don't agree with everything supported or promoted by democratic party leadership.
 
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I think it's pretty well covered with the posts above this one. Unfettered immigration folllowed up with sweeping amnesty or lax voting laws are one component the democrat long game to solidify a grip on power. Part of that effort was to talk about all the reasons why the border couldn't be secured and to denigrat those who wanted to focus on that before having a conversating about amnesty or whatever. We're now past that pont. From here on out if the border becomes less secure it'll be obvious that it was a choice to do so. (It was always obvious but its even more so now).

edit: Just like everyone on the right doesn't like everythign that trump or the republicans in congress do, i'm sure that there are people on the left who don't agree with everything supported or promoted by democratic party leadership.
Your compositions are getting better and I can even say I agree with a lot of what you said, except for the comment about "lax voting laws."

Edit - oops I misread your name as AugTig lol.
 
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I think it's pretty well covered with the posts above this one. Unfettered immigration folllowed up with sweeping amnesty or lax voting laws are one component the democrat long game to solidify a grip on power. Part of that effort was to talk about all the reasons why the border couldn't be secured and to denigrat those who wanted to focus on that before having a conversating about amnesty or whatever. We're now past that pont. From here on out if the border becomes less secure it'll be obvious that it was a choice to do so. (It was always obvious but its even more so now).

edit: Just like everyone on the right doesn't like everythign that trump or the republicans in congress do, i'm sure that there are people on the left who don't agree with everything supported or promoted by democratic party leadership.

Agreed with much of this. One nuance of this is that Trump had to use a very limited War Power act to allow him to do what he's doing. It was not at all legal standard or practice and it took a conservative Supreme court to allow it. It's only through Executive Orders to hat it's being done, not existing law.

The real issue is the complete unwillingness of Congress to fix anything. There should have been immigration reform many,many years ago, through both parties.
 

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The Left includes more than the president. The way he managed the border made me sick and I qualify as the Left.

The Left includes more than the president. The way he managed the border made me sick and I qualify as the Left.
the left also included the secretary of Homeland security the VP and the Congress. They told us for four years that the border was secure in spite of the fact that video showed thousands crossing every day. Biden said he did everything he could to close the border, yet only took trump about a month to get things under control.

Saying the left in indeed a generalization. But it's not a stretch to say that people on the left who could have spoken up and done something didn't.

It doesn't help the left's cause on illegal immigration to now be so adamant about efforts to deport those who are here illegally. Can't be so anti deportation and still be anti illegals in the country.
 
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Lol @ millions. Ridiculously wrong. Maga propaganda is doing it's job though.
This kind of response is why Dems lost in November. It’s not ridiculously wrong. 10.3 million β€œundocumented migrants” enter the US between January 2021 and September 2024. That does not include β€œgot aways”. The Dems gaslight the public by saying that the border was secure and that it wasn’t happening inc even though the public could see the results in their own communities.

the β€œpropaganda” from MAGA was that they were all criminals, terrorists, and eating dogs and cats. THAT we can agree on … but the numbers are what they are and directly led to Trump winning.
 

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This kind of response is why Dems lost in November. It’s not ridiculously wrong. 10.3 million β€œundocumented migrants” enter the US between January 2021 and September 2024. That does not include β€œgot aways”. The Dems gaslight the public by saying that the border was secure and that it wasn’t happening inc even though the public could see the results in their own communities.

the β€œpropaganda” from MAGA was that they were all criminals, terrorists, and eating dogs and cats. THAT we can agree on … but the numbers are what they are and directly led to Trump winning.
Just to add some perspective to that 10.3 million number.

Ellis Island, from it's opening on January 1, 1892 to it's closing on November 12, 1954 processed approximately 12million immigrants.

Tell me again how the border under democrat leadership was simply "mismanaged" and not 100% intentional.

edit: that is a rhetorical queston and not directed at you, PAW.
 
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Just to add some perspective to that 10.3 million number.

Ellis Island, from it's opening on January 1, 1892 to it's closing on November 12, 1954 processed approximately 12million immigrants.

Tell me again how the border under democrat leadership was simply "mismanaged" and not 100% intentional.

edit: that is a rhetorical queston and not directed at you, PAW.
There's a lot more data here if you click the link

Estimating the Net Number to estimate the net number of illegal immigrants who entered and remained in the U.S. during Biden’s presidency:
  • Encounters: ~10.8 million (FY 2021–2024).
  • Removals/Expulsions: ~4.4 million (including 2.8 million from CBP and 3.7 million total repatriations).
  • Releases: ~2.5 million released into the U.S. to await hearings.
  • Gotaways: ~1.5–2 million (estimated, with potential underreporting).
  • Unknown Factors: Emigration, repeat crossings (27% recidivism rate in FY 2021), and those who left voluntarily or were later deported after release.
A rough estimate, accounting for releases and gotaways minus removals and emigration, suggests the net increase in unauthorized immigrants is likely 2–3 million during Biden’s presidency, aligning with the Center for Immigration Studies’ estimate of 2.4 million through mid-2023. This accounts for those released into the U.S. (2.5 million) plus gotaways (1.5–2 million), minus removals (4.4 million) and untracked emigration. However, precise numbers are unavailable due to data gaps, particularly for gotaways and emigration rates.

 

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There's a lot more data here if you click the link

Estimating the Net Number to estimate the net number of illegal immigrants who entered and remained in the U.S. during Biden’s presidency:
  • Encounters: ~10.8 million (FY 2021–2024).
  • Removals/Expulsions: ~4.4 million (including 2.8 million from CBP and 3.7 million total repatriations).
  • Releases: ~2.5 million released into the U.S. to await hearings.
  • Gotaways: ~1.5–2 million (estimated, with potential underreporting).
  • Unknown Factors: Emigration, repeat crossings (27% recidivism rate in FY 2021), and those who left voluntarily or were later deported after release.
A rough estimate, accounting for releases and gotaways minus removals and emigration, suggests the net increase in unauthorized immigrants is likely 2–3 million during Biden’s presidency, aligning with the Center for Immigration Studies’ estimate of 2.4 million through mid-2023. This accounts for those released into the U.S. (2.5 million) plus gotaways (1.5–2 million), minus removals (4.4 million) and untracked emigration. However, precise numbers are unavailable due to data gaps, particularly for gotaways and emigration rates.

In the 13MM over 62yrs of ellis island is 210,000 / year. Using the low net figure of 2MM /4yr is averages out to double. if 3MM add another 250K/yr on top of that.

Its crazy to think that during the majority of the time that ellis island operated we were a largely agrarian society with plenty of demand for unskilled/semi-skilled labor on farms and also in factories. We also had plenty of room for those people as well after we got done with screwing over the natives.

Even at the low number of 500K illegals per year that still falls into the "Intentional" category in my book.
 

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This kind of response is why Dems lost in November. It’s not ridiculously wrong. 10.3 million β€œundocumented migrants” enter the US between January 2021 and September 2024. That does not include β€œgot aways”. The Dems gaslight the public by saying that the border was secure and that it wasn’t happening inc even though the public could see the results in their own communities.

the β€œpropaganda” from MAGA was that they were all criminals, terrorists, and eating dogs and cats. THAT we can agree on … but the numbers are what they are and directly led to Trump winning.
Democrats lost because there's more ignorant and racist people than not. As to undocumented migrants...there is a chance there were that many encounters not entries. Get your "facts" right. And how many leave the US annually? There is a reason that total documented and undocumented immigrants in the country, at any given time, stays between 10 and 12 million for the last 20 or 30 years. Truth...it's important.
 

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Democrats lost because there's more ignorant and racist people than not. As to undocumented migrants...there is a chance there were that many encounters not entries. Get your "facts" right. And how many leave the US annually? There is a reason that total documented and undocumented immigrants in the country, at any given time, stays between 10 and 12 million for the last 20 or 30 years. Truth...it's important.
Exactly, it feels like maga intentionally conflates encounters with entries.
 

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I am an Immigration attorney who specializes in Removal Defense (Stopping Deportations and getting those folks legal) AMA.
 

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Democrats lost because there's more ignorant and racist people than not. As to undocumented migrants...there is a chance there were that many encounters not entries. Get your "facts" right. And how many leave the US annually? There is a reason that total documented and undocumented immigrants in the country, at any given time, stays between 10 and 12 million for the last 20 or 30 years. Truth...it's important.
Those illegals weren't leaving at all with the freebies being given from the democrats and the fact that they probably all owe the cartels.
 
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Democrats lost because there's more ignorant and racist people than not. As to undocumented migrants...there is a chance there were that many encounters not entries. Get your "facts" right. And how many leave the US annually? There is a reason that total documented and undocumented immigrants in the country, at any given time, stays between 10 and 12 million for the last 20 or 30 years. Truth...it's important.
My facts are straight …

and just point of order, believing that the US is MORE racist today and that is why Trump won is ANOTHER reason why democrats lost in November.

but let’s pull on that string a bit. Is the US more racist today than it was prior to the civil right movement? AND if β€œyes”, please explain HOW in the blue F* such a racist country elected a black man to its highest office TWICE in landslides you sentient turnip.

And before you get your little effeminate fingers piddling away on your keyboard , tw@t, … I’m not MAGA.
 
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great job ICE really feel safer knowing this grandpa is off the streets

 
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