Matt Rhule: A good portal QB will cost $1,000,000 to $2,000,000

AdventureHasAName

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This is the same NCAA that gave SMU the death penalty, but didn’t punish psu for years institutional child rape

No punishment for MSU for Nasser
None for Cuse w Bernie Fine

Yet They Gave OSU penalties bc players sold merch for tattoos

And Didn’t do a damn thing when UNC was having fake classes and fake degrees

Also hasn’t given FSU their wins back for Self reporting a handful of guys for cheating in an online music class

Nothing these scumbags do, or don’t do, surprises me
All true. Also has nothing to do with what I said. The NCAA had rules. The Supreme Court said they couldn't have them. It is therefore not the NCAA's fault for not having rules in place.
 

NickRU714

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All true. Also has nothing to do with what I said. The NCAA had rules. The Supreme Court said they couldn't have them. It is therefore not the NCAA's fault for not having rules in place.

NCAA knew their rules weren’t appropriate though and chose to do nothing.

There is a reason NCAA Football video game ended in 2014.
They needed to share proceeds with the players for use of their NIL.

Instead of working to create an environment of cooperation with the players and share revenue - they took their ball and went home.
Literally decided to take less revenue just so they wouldn’t have to share with the players.
This could have all been solved a decade ago.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/02/02/ncaa-football-ea-sports-stopped-making-games

“This alone did not force the game to shut down: EA indicated in court filings that it was willing to pay players moving forward to use their likenesses (and potentially names) in the game.

The holdup came on the NCAA side, whose resistance to allowing players to profit in any way while in school made it virtually impossible for EA to keep making the game without yet another lawsuit. Despite its popularity, EA stopped producing the game.”
 

JayDogSmooth

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All true. Also has nothing to do with what I said. The NCAA had rules. The Supreme Court said they couldn't have them. It is therefore not the NCAA's fault for not having rules in place.
Were the rules sufficient?

Or was the NCAA being a bunch of greedy bastards like they usually are, screwing over the players for their own benefit, hence the Supreme Court voiding them them.
 
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NCAA knew their rules weren’t appropriate though and chose to do nothing.

There is a reason NCAA Football video game ended in 2014.
They needed to share proceeds with the players for use of their NIL.

Instead of working to create an environment of cooperation with the players and share revenue - they took their ball and went home.
Literally decided to take less revenue just so they wouldn’t have to share with the players.
This could have all been solved a decade ago.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/02/02/ncaa-football-ea-sports-stopped-making-games

“This alone did not force the game to shut down: EA indicated in court filings that it was willing to pay players moving forward to use their likenesses (and potentially names) in the game.

The holdup came on the NCAA side, whose resistance to allowing players to profit in any way while in school made it virtually impossible for EA to keep making the game without yet another lawsuit. Despite its popularity, EA stopped producing the game.”




 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Do you support donations directly to the Rutgers Athletic Department?
Do you support the Big Ten schools getting tens of millions in conference revenue while other programs get minimal money?
That makes you wrong.

Substitute "NIL" with "athletic department donations" and "players" with "programs".
Or substitute "NIL" for "media and conference payouts".
Everything you wrote was a problem before NIL and will still be a problem after NIL.

Yes pro leagues have rules. All teams revenue share.
Should the Big Ten and SEC share money with the ACC, MWC, Big East, AAC?
Is it fair for Temple to play against Rutgers when Rutgers gets tens of millions more to spend on training and facilities?
Still waiting for the first person to say "Ban NIL for equality! Then pool conference revenue for eqaulity!"

To use your own words:
"Sure, it benefits the programs that get paid the most. It will harm the vast majority of programs.....who cannot afford to compete with the big names. It will harm their chances of ever playing for a championship. It will harm them for having to play against teams with overstocked talent. It may even physically harm then....."
You ignore the point. That some programs ALREADY had an advantage has nothing to do with NIL money or paying players, in-general. They already had that advantage. NIL adds to that advantage and that is not good for the sport as a whole. There is a reason that scholarship limits and transfer rules were put in place.. to promote wider competition... the prevent teams with giant wallets from just keeping 5-deep benches of stars. And while many did continue to cheat the rules with payoffs and jobs and so on, that was technically against the rules and they could have been punished for it.

NIL and new transfer rules just make the rich richer.. and makes the payoffs to players legal.

The Big Ten shares revenues. Other conferences can do the same. From a conference revenue standpoint.. and competition, no team gets more revenue than another and thus has a revenue advantage.. well, none other than what they generate for themselves individually. But that's the issue, right? With NIL the rich get richer (in talent and thus, WINS) and thus they get more demand and more self-generated revenue.

We play most of our games against other Big Ten teams that get the same conference revenue. So I don't care that Temple gets less. Beating Temple because of a revenue advantage won't help us win the Big Ten or get its slot in the CFP... well, not very much. But NIL makes it less likely to win the Big Ten now. What happens when we lose a Kyle Monangai to Ohio State or Michigan or even Nebraska, if Huskeralways' info is correct..and we have no reason to think it is not. We already lost an OL to Ohio State in the past.

NIL may make a few players wealthy at a young age... but it will harm a lot more due to reduced competitive balance.
 
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anon1753890747

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So why would it implode on itself?
The current model is unsustainable
That’s all you need to know.
There is zero correlation to what the sport was and what is it becoming.
Your argument that now it’s legal shows your
Contempt without investigation. Did you read that on the interweb?
Very simplistic non researched view used to justify the bastardization of what was once the greatest modern day sport in what was once a great country.
 

JayDogSmooth

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The current model is unsustainable
That’s all you need to know.
There is zero correlation to what the sport was and what is it becoming.
Your argument that now it’s legal shows your
Contempt without investigation. Did you read that on the interweb?
Very simplistic non researched view used to justify the bastardization of what was once the greatest modern day sport in what was once a great country.
No **** it’s unsustainable
I’ve said that no less than 500 times
It needs to, and eventually will, change

Nice rant though
I suggest meds, a nap, possibly some uppers, and a woman
 
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Then the male athletes at LSU and Miami should sue because Olivia Dunne and the Cavinder twins made disproportionately more money than any male athletes at those institutions.
That crossed my mind too. But are those “real” NIL deals as opposed to booster funded ones? I don’t know.
 

vkj91

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Caleb Williams driving a Ferrari
Shedeur driving a RR
NCAA has become atavistic and vestigial.
There will be a need for something new to polish the edges off the chaos
There are players wanting CFB over NFL.
Fans probably want to keep some of them too.
At some point the top of deck of CFB becomes a pro league and NFL has a headache.


At least those two guys actually are in commercials. The appearance of earning their money