We need to stop allowing the president get away with this much power. We have opened a door that basically eliminates congress. It may be great if you’re a Trump fan today, but it has opened the door for Dems which I fear.
Military strikes have begun in Iran
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We need to stop allowing the president get away with this much power. We have opened a door that basically eliminates congress. It may be great if you’re a Trump fan today, but it has opened the door for Dems which I fear.
They need to come clean on the how's and why's. Is it nuclear deterrence or regime change or both?
I’m not wading into this, but can we all agree that all military action should be named like they are 80’s action movies?
Can we just not do this **** right now??
Nothing is learned or accomplished by getting the thread locked and both sides of the aisle have had multiple awful moments through the years, including the previous 4 when we don't even know who the hell was actually making the decisions Biden supposedly was.
The need for this attack/war doesn't make sense to a lot of people. The timing doesn't make sense. The sudden need to do it doesn't make sense.
So they are suggesting, serious or joking, the motivation is to take away from a different issue.
I mean, that has been a motivation in the past so it's not the craziest possibility.
Others have offered up their guesses for why it's happening, as well as their support.
I just wish I could trust any news, right or left, our government, anyone to give actual facts about what is happening /has happened.
They destroyed the critical sites last summer. I remember- SPS and Trump said so.
...or was last summer's bombing Operation Just The Tip, and now we are in full penetration mode?
No. I'd like to know why we are are doing this and what the plan is. The messaging is all over the place. Blindly accepting the next rationalization is eventually disastrous. Especially from a man whose mind has left him (that's both Biden and Trump if you are paying attention).
I hope the actual organization of our military assets and troops is better organized. Bombs are expensive and lives are priceless.
Yes, don't want a guy who thinks if he dies he's going to get laid by 72 virgins having his hand on the button....I mean it is all time undefeated.....there is something poetic about it if it ended the world ****
This. 100% this. During the Minnesota fraud stuff I made a concerted effort to see how much of it fell on Walz. I spent probably an hour and when I was done I was more confused than when I started. Every freaking article had an agenda. From every website.
I think the more frustrating part to me is the way Americans in general lap up the reporting as long as they like said agenda.
Attacking Iran may be the greatest military move in history, it may be the worst. Good luck figuring it out from our trusted news services
I haven't thought to laugh at all the people we killed without need or proof on the boats we blew up.
I also haven't laughed at Carrottop's comedy, but others apparently do. Maybe it's like that. Maybe for me, blowing people and boats up is like Carrottop performing.
I hope there are long term goals that have been considered, but I doubt they are well formed, if they exist at all.
- Are we going to take Iran on as a project like Iraq and Afghanistan, be there for decades, and try to force a sustainable democracy to exist?
- Are we going to bomb some sites, claim total destruction, then ignore the fact that it isnt totally destroyed?
- Are we going to remove leadership and then walk away like Venezuela, while claiming regime change but installing someone who worked for and supported the last leader, only to also not claim regime change and say it's for oil(economics), while also claiming it's to keep 'evil' countries from influencing countries near us that see actually on another continent?
I welcome a coherent and logical endgame plan.
Hilariously that you think there’s a plan that isn’t myopic…
He did at least end the Russia Ukraine war before he took office ****
I don’t give a fúck who is in power. The unified executive theory has gained too much traction. I said it when Bush was in office, I said it when Obama was in office, I’ll say it until I am blue in the face. The balance of power has shifted to wildly to the Executive and if you disagree with that don’t ***** when a Democrat is throwing Executive orders that are unconstitutional too.
Maybe bombing nuclear capabilities is all we can do? I have a full expectation that infighting among religious factions will rule the day post conflict.
If we do. Will you finally admit you fell for all the bullshít and it’s all a con.
Thank you. For those of us that really believe in small central government, this is extraordinarily painful to watch.
I don’t give a fúck who is in power. The unified executive theory has gained too much traction. I said it when Bush was in office, I said it when Obama was in office, I’ll say it until I am blue in the face. The balance of power has shifted to wildly to the Executive and if you disagree with that don’t ***** when a Democrat is throwing Executive orders that are unconstitutional too.
You realize things can be rebuilt?
you realize they maybe thought by what they did Iran would back off?
this isn’t a war. It’s a small battle. If we end up with infantry on the ground. Whine like a bich then. Not navy seals or delta force. Like 10,000 plus infantry. Obama did this similar thing multiple times. I didn’t care.
the difference in trump and most presidents is he draws a line and when you cross it he takes the gloves off which is a phenomenal deterrent in the future. I know you aren’t smart enough to realize that though.
That’s been my complaint about people running for office. “I want to slash the wasteful shítty government!!”
Then why do you work so hard and spend so much money trying to work for it? And when you get there, why don’t you leave?
Yeah, this is not what’s going to happen. Best we can hope for is what rises will be weaker & less dangerous
I agree. But that door has been wide open for over 70 years. Last time Congress declared war was in 1942.
I mean is it really that difficult? The sole sponsor of proxy azzholes in the region. They refused to stop sponsoring them so here comes the FO!
For the record this was not me. Trump is on his own on this one.
Correct. People who don’t value their own lives don’t value others either. I does occur to me that it’s never the jihadist leader who is out in front suicide bombing…so it may be that the leaders fear reciprocal actions enough to not use them? I hope we don’t find out.
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