Most disappointed I’ve been watching a game in a decade

Mikemarc

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Your shtick is old. Big ten teams should always expect to beat Buffalo.

You just want to whine about Greg meanwhile the coaches you claim are better all lost today to teams not as good as Iowa

ok. And I’d probably post the same thing if I were fans of those programs.

If you disagree with anything in my op, I’d like to know what it is. Do you not think the game was very winnable? Did you not sense more hype this week after a nice showing on national tv? Would a win not have done wonders? Did we not lay an egg today?

Please let me know what you disagree with..maybe you don’t think losses like this happen too often with this program?
 
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desihawk

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This one is on the coaches. We played right into Iowa’s strengths. You can’t out “conservative” Ferentz. He’s a master of the choke hold. Needed to blitz the **** out that QB, not sit back.
iowa fan here. was extremely apprehensive about this game because on paper this was a bad match up for us. you might have hit the nail on the head about blitzing deacon…the film likely shows yhat as well.
 

RUboston

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It's RU football: one step up, two steps back. That's the first Iowa shut out sine 2019 vs. Northwestern. Scoring zero points against Iowa is simply not acceptable. If we didn't play Wagner and sneak by a down MSU team this year, we're back in the quicksand. And people are talking about giving GS an extension.

When your D ends the first half with an interception, and you get the ball to start the second half, you march down the field and score, not go three and out. You change the whole dynamic of that game. That's really not asking too much.
 

RU#1fan

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When you have a QB that is ranked #102 among all FBS QB Ratings ( and will get worse after this game) the margin for error is extremely thin. Play calling and performance like this by the players won’t get us past 6 wins this season including the Bowl game.
 

rurichdog

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An extremely winnable top 25 game, after a week of some hype. A win would have done absolute wonders for the program. And the team and staff lay an absolute egg.

Happens way too much with this program
Like that coach in Syracuse said..."EVERY F***ING YEAR!!!"
 
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Waldo73

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Why does Gavin W clap his hands so freaking much. I think it helps causing false starts.
 

Pete in LA

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Rutgers is my Eastern team, they’re kind of the Iowa of the East if you think about it. The Hawks are kind of like a Boa Constrictor, they kind if suficate teams given the opportunity. Rutgers can do the same thing.
 
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RobertG

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It's RU football: one step up, two steps back. That's the first Iowa shut out sine 2019 vs. Northwestern. Scoring zero points against Iowa is simply not acceptable. If we didn't play Wagner and sneak by a down MSU team this year, we're back in the quicksand. And people are talking about giving GS an extension.

When your D ends the first half with an interception, and you get the ball to start the second half, you march down the field and score, not go three and out. You change the whole dynamic of that game. That's really not asking too

It's RU football: one step up, two steps back. That's the first Iowa shut out sine 2019 vs. Northwestern. Scoring zero points against Iowa is simply not acceptable. If we didn't play Wagner and sneak by a down MSU team this year, we're back in the quicksand. And people are talking about giving GS an extension.

When your D ends the first half with an interception, and you get the ball to start the second half, you march down the field and score, not go three and out. You change the whole dynamic of that game. That's really not asking too much.
In the first possession of the 2nd half we moved the ball from the RU 25 to Iowa 45. (With a questionable spot on 3rd and 1) On 4th and 1 Jonny Football jumped early pushing us back to the 50 and having to punt.
 

chase07470

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Disappointed as well.

1st half it felt winnable. We fought for momentum. Moved the ball. Kept shooting ourselves in the foot with offsides penalties and you can't do that on the road, against a ranked team. Should not have been playing games with the snap count still, after the second penalty.

The ref sequence where they failed to call a blatant pass interference and then extended the Iowa drive after a sack with a very questionable holding call away from the play, was yet another crucial sequence decoded by the refs, against Rutgers. Seems like it happens every game.

They scored, got the momentum and never gave it up.

This team lacks a full complement of offensive skill players and TE's. We just don't have those guys and it's tough to compete and win without speed weapons out there. We can scream about the QB and he didn't have a good game tonight, maybe he will develop, maybe he won't but to be a top tier, above Iowa level B1G team, you need all the weapons. We don't have them.

I try to be level headed about this, despite the disappointment. There are years and years of frustration being a Rutgers Football fan and I try to recognize this has nothing to do with these kids and what they're trying to accomplish. They've moved the needle well off the bottom and that's definitely a step forward.

It does feel like no fan base deserves a signature win as a fan base, as much as we do.

Hopefully soon.
 

wheezer

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False starts. Can't have 3rd and 2 and next thing it is 3rd and 12. Team stunk. Team was bad.
Should have stopped running the play clock all the way down
Maybe we would have gotten plays off without jumping off sides with all the fan noise
 

RUaMoose_rivals

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I'm afraid it's fixin' to get worse. PSU up next. Gonna be ugly. Last year we ended the season against PSU and MD losing by a combined 92-10. Don't think we'll give up 92 but who knows. If this ineptitude on O continues, the D gets worn out and points can skyrocket.
 
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anon1753890747

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No Gavin runs is inexcusable. He can’t pass. So this is his best weapon.

ZERO tight end receptions, ZERO screens or wheels.

Free Ajani
Truth be told Gavin can’t run either he only gains available yard to point of contact
He has zero power in his legs
He ran for negative 3 yards yesterday, he is not a threat. He is not a Quarterback, his pocket movement is terrible he has zero instincts
His roll out look awkward and unnatural
 

rufeelinit

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Not sure how anyone thought this was an "extremely winnable" game. I expected us to compete better but thought Iowa was the better team. Be prepared to lose the last two. Be surprised if we don't. Looks like the OSU game took a lot out of this team and the coaching staff. That's not a valid excuse but we are so overly reliant on our defense that this is not going to change until GS brings in better players to significantly enhance the passing game. Dremel is clearly our only somewhat consistent and reliable pass catcher. GW looked decent throwing safe passes in the first half but no so much in the second half. For the longest time it appears GS was hoping to win 7-3 or 7-6. Not gonna work.
 

JavaDunk18

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Yes, that sequence of the obvious missed PI against RU, then negating an RU sack with a chippy call on Melton, set the momentum in Iowa’s favor

Much like the phantom holding early on vs Michigan that prevented RU from going up 10 or 14-0

Iowa has a stable of tight ends. RU needs more, and needs to feature in offense. They have a history of great ones..

RU can still be #6 in Big 10. Seven wins can put them ahead of all of the west teams except Wisconsin & Iowa
 
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RW90

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Disappointed as well.

1st half it felt winnable. We fought for momentum. Moved the ball. Kept shooting ourselves in the foot with offsides penalties and you can't do that on the road, against a ranked team. Should not have been playing games with the snap count still, after the second penalty.

The ref sequence where they failed to call a blatant pass interference and then extended the Iowa drive after a sack with a very questionable holding call away from the play, was yet another crucial sequence decoded by the refs, against Rutgers. Seems like it happens every game.

They scored, got the momentum and never gave it up.

This team lacks a full complement of offensive skill players and TE's. We just don't have those guys and it's tough to compete and win without speed weapons out there. We can scream about the QB and he didn't have a good game tonight, maybe he will develop, maybe he won't but to be a top tier, above Iowa level B1G team, you need all the weapons. We don't have them.

I try to be level headed about this, despite the disappointment. There are years and years of frustration being a Rutgers Football fan and I try to recognize this has nothing to do with these kids and what they're trying to accomplish. They've moved the needle well off the bottom and that's definitely a step forward.

It does feel like no fan base deserves a signature win as a fan base, as much as we do.

Hopefully soon.
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hawkimatt

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Very winnable, Iowa is not good
Completely inaccurate. Against Iowa’s defense, what could Rutgers have done? Your offensive strengths were countered perfectly by Phil Parker; stuff the run with your base defense and make RU win with the pass. I saw no evidence that was possible and the stats and scoreboard showed it.

For the record, I like RU and GS. My wife grew up in Middlesex and we’ve enjoyed visiting your stadium. Our last trip, Ash was coaching, and you‘re miles ahead of that point in talent and scheme. Patience is required, and good things are already happening for you. Good luck the rest of the way.
 
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LETSGORU91_

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This team hasn’t beat anyone and we are loyal to a qb and OC who can’t do ****
I agree on most of this, but we have six wins and will be in a bowl. The QB and the OC are like swimming with lead weights tied to the ankles.
Truth be told Gavin can’t run either he only gains available yard to point of contact
He has zero power in his legs
He ran for negative 3 yards yesterday, he is not a threat. He is not a Quarterback, his pocket movement is terrible he has zero instincts
His roll out look awkward and unnatural
It would be nice if they actually tell him to pull the ball back (or if he is allowed to decide, pull the ball back) when he obviously should. Many times, the containment isn't even moving towards Gavin before the "decision" to give the ball away is made. They know he isnt running. He would absolutely be more of a threat in the running game and keep the defense honest which would open up more interior space for KM. I might be wrong, but all of Gavin's limited runs yesterday (that I saw) were designed, direct snap runs and not as a result of pulling the ball back from KM as an option.
 
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brgRC90

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Deja vu all over again. Have people not watched Schiano for 20 years? He makes his reputation on beating teams in the lower half of college football, splitting--at best--with teams in the 40s and 50s, and basically always losing to anyone better. That's his ceiling. He's a coach that will get you a 45th ranked team. One toughly contested loss to Ohio State does not yet show otherwise.
 

Jtung230

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Deja vu all over again. Have people not watched Schiano for 20 years? He makes his reputation on beating teams in the lower half of college football, splitting--at best--with teams in the 40s and 50s, and basically always losing to anyone better. That's his ceiling. He's a coach that will get you a 45th ranked team. One toughly contested loss to Ohio State does not yet show otherwise.
Hard to argue with this. But at RU, that’s not bad and you throw in a 2006 every 5-10 yrs. I think that’s getting the best out of RU.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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He threw ball away out of endzone more than 15 here vs Wisconsin. We really do not know what Simon can or cannot do... but in the short passing game he hit people accurately and in-stride in limited action. When you have a legit running threat.. that is enough for many teams.

 

RUTGERS95

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He threw ball away out of endzone more than 15 here vs Wisconsin. We really do not know what Simon can or cannot do... but in the short passing game he hit people accurately and in-stride in limited action. When you have a legit running threat.. that is enough for many teams.


no way simon does worse than Gav but the upside is he can throw
 
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Jtung230

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He threw ball away out of endzone more than 15 here vs Wisconsin. We really do not know what Simon can or cannot do... but in the short passing game he hit people accurately and in-stride in limited action. When you have a legit running threat.. that is enough for many teams.


Simon isn’t new. He has played for us. Think people are just forgetting the results.
 

brgRC90

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Hard to argue with this. But at RU, that’s not bad and you throw in a 2006 every 5-10 yrs. I think that’s getting the best out of RU.
If that's what some fans are satisfied with so be it. But some of us who have been constantly attacked for being critics would like to aim higher (or at least see a more entertaining style of game) and would rather the program try for better and fall short than be satisfied with predictable mediocrity. The fatal flaw is his outdated style of play, which even if he had top shelf talent wouldn't get him much higher. Fifteen years ago when I said it's an outdated style I was told Alabama, USC, etc use it--even though we didn't have their level of talent. Today, even with rosters full of stars even those teams no longer use it.
 

bethlehemfan

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I had a feeling we were going to get physically dominated like this. I didn’t happen right away but the miscues contributed and once Gavin got panicky it was over.
 
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Jtung230

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If that's what some fans are satisfied with so be it. But some of us who have been constantly attacked for being critics would like to aim higher (or at least see a more entertaining style of game) and would rather the program try for better and fall short than be satisfied with predictable mediocrity. The fatal flaw is his outdated style of play, which even if he had top shelf talent wouldn't get him much higher. Fifteen years ago when I said it's an outdated style I was told Alabama, USC, etc use it--even though we didn't have their level of talent. Today, even with rosters full of stars even those teams no longer use it.
Aim higher isn’t just trying something different. It’s big $$$. There is a correlation between constant success and $$$$. I’m just tired of all the we can build it cheap and then the money will come BS. Or just spend the money we don’t have and it will all work out BS.
 
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RUScrew85

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Rutgers is my Eastern team, they’re kind of the Iowa of the East if you think about it. The Hawks are kind of like a Boa Constrictor, they kind if suficate teams given the opportunity. Rutgers can do the same thing.

Well yeah, except for the success.