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I agree they have a very good football program, well coached and great kids...My biggest beef is they are Private and the RULES public schools go by, they DONT have to follow ....If that is a true statement...............Maybe U can answer that.........Maybe U think that is fair, I DONT................JUST ONE.............OK , I'm done with this .........I said what has been on my chest for a while.....Again just my opinion.......Good Luck in the coming season....I just wished EVERY TEAM played by the same rules....
We dont agree on much but that we agree on. They are a private school and don't play by the same rules as the public schools they compete against.
My son plays basketball with a bunch of St. Marks/Holy Trinity children and their sole goal is to play sports at Charlotte Catholic. They dont mention academics, cost, social life, but to play sports. Its engrained at a very early age. If not football or basketball its lacrosse, soccer, rugby or swimming. Its not limited to just guys, its the girls too. Their goal is to excel at sports at Charlotte Catholic. They actively pursue other Catholic children/families to join their teams/school. They vet you out quickly. In a public school your are not even sure of your boundary assignments, but for these private schools they are already playing together from ages 5 and up. Its just a different set up than public schools.
CC mentioned previously that its alums and families that make up the majority of the Parochial school roster and he is correct. Most have had a father, uncle, brother, sister, mom, grand father, or other relative come through the CC system, and they have a super pride about it. From my personal experience the only thing I;ve seen close was the West Charlotte mystique late 80s, and early 90s, and Richmond County football late 80s, and mid-late 90s. But CC is much greater than that. Almost 3x that as they pay fees for other Holy Trinity players, give rides home, spend the night, attend services, workout together. Its a special bond that goes beyond a typical good friend. Its almost as if they are seclusive. They have no need to recruit outside as they plan early in life so that the highschool is successful. Most public school players play for scholarships in college where these parochial schools goal is to play for the parochial school and excel. Totally different mentality.
He, sammyk, probably knows as much or more than anyone posting here.
To me that is a true community school, in this case the Catholic Community. I think there are about 80,000 people in Meck County that identify as Catholics but nowhere near that many attending the Catholic Church. There are two Catholic high schools. Wake County is probably closer to 90,000. Not sure of the surrounding counties for either but I expect the farther away from Raleigh and Charlotte the number drops drastically.
The late 1980's and early 1990's at WC were fabulous times in hoops and football. Hampshire Hills turned out some great kids.
The argument I always made for Richmond, "every kid wants to be a Raider." With the feeder system they had in place a lot of kids got to play a lot in junior high school and be a catalyst on the team which made them see a chance for success and work harder. I thought those two things were a big part of the greatness.
A true freshman team is huge for the playing time for experience and to build confidence. Allowing 11th graders that will hardly see the field on Friday to play on the JV can be a game changer. Know one that went onto play in college and another that dominated as a senior and went onto play in the NFL
I'll take a group of kids that have been playing together since youth ball, over an Allstar team put together pre-season, All-day! Nothing better than taking a group of kids at a young age, and watching them develop. Lot of people thinking you can just load up a team with talent and win Championships. Ask Hough? They've been doing it for over a decade. You might be able to sneak in one, at most. It's just not how it works. You're opening up Pandora's box to numerous ego's. Kids who switch schools often come with crazy parents, with very unreasonable expectations. Everybody wants to be the man. It also takes a special coaching staff to manage the numerous personalities. It has been proven, time and time again. It's not a good formula for success. Kids who switch schools in High School for the wrong reasons, are the 1st to enter the Portal.
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No doubt its a community school. Having grown up in Hampshire Hills and family westside we stayed talking WC sports. In the CYAC league we all talked about playing at WC, and doing whatever we could not to go to Garinger.
Think there are more Catholics available to CC then 80k. Much much more. What was surprising to me in talking with CC families is how dedicated they are to sports. Parent told me they would rather have smaller teams numbers wise to be able to play the better athletes, He described CC football to me as having 35-40 B athletes, and making sure there are no Cs, or Ds, and a minimal up to 3 As every now and then. The Gideon effect as I call it. When you get the community pride, continuity, great coaching and good athletes that buy in it will create a monster. Take away residency requirements and you see one school with 60 championships in 20 years.
Richmond County was a beast beast, but they do not get the athlete they once did. Mentioned it previously but RC has lost a lot of residents to Wake, and Mecklenburg. The building of 74 diverted the beach traffic which really hurt business, and losing the race was a dagger. Still not sure what NASCAR was thinking. They still have Raider football but the rest of the county is much different.
Catholic's championships over the years has more to do with being located in the suburbs of a large city and being 3A and 2A. There is far less competition in the Olympic sports at those levels. They are not winning as much at the 4A level.
They have de facto boundaries of religion and tuition and if you are not Catholic you are paying higher tuition. The Catholic population is around 4% of the general population.
They have de facto boundaries of religion and tuition and if you are not Catholic you are paying higher tuition. The Catholic population is around 4% of the general population.
Same for Gibbons. With the new interest it is very hard to get in unless you are Catholic, active in Diocese and being legacy doesn’t hurt. Everything said about CC applies to CG 100%. The kids are all probably b level athletes but truly believe team over self. Catholics pay about half what non Catholics would pay. Say it again… how many power 5 recruits you see come out of CG? maybe 1 every other year. Most are high academic FCS or high academic DIII recruits. Look at this year team as an example
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I'll take a group of kids that have been playing together since youth ball, over an Allstar team put together pre-season, All-day! Nothing better than taking a group of kids at a young age, and watching them develop. Lot of people thinking you can just load up a team with talent and win Championships. Ask Hough? They've been doing it for over a decade. You might be able to sneak in one, at most. It's just not how it works. You're opening up Pandora's box to numerous ego's. Kids who switch schools often come with crazy parents, with very unreasonable expectations. Everybody wants to be the man. It also takes a special coaching staff to manage the numerous personalities. It has been proven, time and time again. It's not a good formula for success. Kids who switch schools in High School for the wrong reasons, are the 1st to enter the Portal.
Richmond County against Charlotte Allstars: Finish them:
Richmond County against Charlotte Allstars: Finish them:
Indy had a few that played JV during their run. They were not allowed to play in the varsity game that week as you cannot 8 quarter a junior.
Han 11th grader that had never played football. Coaches got him to come out. He played JV his first season. He blossomed. All ACC and NFL draft pick and active roster player.
It is common in schools (not NC) that have huge rosters. I went to games at Allen and South Lake Carroll (Texas). Two freshman teams, a JV with sophomores and some juniors. Varsity was any player good enough to be on that squad.
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You are getting on to the a great formula for success. It is not talent, but it is pride and coaching and consistency of kids coming through a school system where your small elementary school goes to bigger school junior HS and then proceeds to the Bigger high schools where kids can be together.. oh wait a minute that is how a public school works... and it is very similar where catholic grade schools where only a portion of them go to the Junior HS, ( middle school) and then to the HS. They are pretty similar except the publics schools actual recruit and cheat and CCHS plays by the rules. I would bet there are a lot kids that choose not to attend CCHS that are very good athletes at other schools, and I would also bet that more leave Catholic to go to another public school and Play sports than transfer into CCHS to play sports.
BID Daddy is pretty clueless or perhaps he is not clueless but simply looks for information that supports what he wants to think to create false narratives versus actually looking at all of the information available and make a credible assessment. I am not sure where he comes up with his 80,000 number plus the assumption they they can cherry pick from this number. That is simply more of his BS. The total number of practicing catholic in the area is about 4.5% to 5%. You can almost double that number if you count non practicing catholics. IS BIG DADDY SUGGESTING there are 80,000 HIGH SCHOOL kids that are practicing CATHOLICS IN the CHARLOTTE that want to play sports and attend CCHS. Is he claiming that is a relevant number. Let's not let facts get in the way of one of BIG DADDY's False narratives that all kids want to do at CCHS is play sports and school is just not important.
Now I will admit this next statement requires a small Math computation. However, it is a direct rebuttal to the so called no boundary argument that Big Daddy use without providing any basis other than the OLD, EVERYONE Knows this is TRUE argument". If 95% of your students from 5% of the population, how much bigger would your area need to be than a typical HS in the same population density. HMM... The second question to ponder is, DO schools with a larger geographic boundaries have any measured statistical advantage over schools with a smaller geographic boundary. Big Daddy sets forth two basic false narratives, that. Catholic cheery picks its students for Sports... well damn they have never looked that way getting of the bus ... but lets not lets facts get in the way of a false Narrative. The second one is about the advantages in club sports. They have have an advantages, just like the public schools in south Charlotte have an advantage. But Catholics facilities are inferior to the publics schools. Coach Oddo has more state Championships in swimming than Football, maybe that had to do with one of the early founders of Mecklenburg Aquatic Programs, kids deciding to go to Catholic instead of South Mecks. For sure it did not happened because of the technique that Coach Oddo. knew about flip turns. CCHS have worked hard to build a nice football field but it does not come close to many of the programs around the state, however they have made it the best they can. I love how Big Daddy tried to suggest that the parking garage was built for football.. that was funny,,, the campus is small and parking is an issue for school safety hence it was built. Even in an area that is mission territory for Catholics, the Catholic Church could pour a lot of money into a school and into sports programs, but they don't as that is not there mission. .
If more kids wanted to attended Catholic school in Charlotte there would be more schools. IN many parts of the country the catholic religion is the largest religious denomination. For example in areas like California, Illinois, MD/DC, New jersey PA, Boston New York, Souther Florida, even Las Vegas and Phoenix Arizona Catholics are at least 30% of the religious denomination. However, in North Carolina, specifically Charlotte and Raleigh the Catholic religion might be considered Missionary territory. Unlike the Deep South most of the Country have less people like Big Daddy that are ignorant of the basics of how a parochial catholic school system is developed and how much closer it is to the way a public school system is run versus a private school. That is not to say that their are not catholic schools that are run closer to how privates schools were run. For example, and I am very familiar with Las Vegas, Chicago and PHoenix. Bishop Gorman is not a parochial school. It is a private school an in an area where the largest religion denomination is Catholicism. A typical Public school in Las Vegas will have about 20-30% of its student body made up of Catholics. I think there is about 700,000 to 750,000 Catholics in Las Vegas and it has one HS and I don't think there is one private HS that plays football.
In Chicago everyone plays together becuase they are not twisted up with trying to exclude schools based on a majority of those non catholics without much understanding about parochial school and thus thinking they are different and thus they must be excluded. That is a dangerous thought process. In these areas decisions are based on how to included everyone not on the perception of exclusion like BIG Daddy's mission.
For me it is not such a big deal that there are those opinions that favor exclusion. It is to be expected when the population has a certain make up. However these opinions seem to create a lot of false narratives and make statements using false premises like "Everyone knows its" but actually these statements are never provided with any statistical basis or alternative theories to test its valid.
Just a heads up, talking to one CC/future CC parent does not make you an expert on CC or allow you to understand how it truly works. Remote just gave a great post detailing quite a bit of it.
Lol. First off i didnt use the 80k number or put it out. Btango did. Have nothing but respect for CC and what they have built. But to say its an even playing field is disingenuous. CC and CG are private schools meaning they can restrict access to the school.
U mentioned public schools feeding middle and then highschools. Thats s false narrative as public schools feed many middle and many highschools not just one. Also if u move into a public schools attendance boundary they can not deny you enrollment. A family could move to 7701 Pineville-Matthews rd and not be allowed into CC. Thats an advantage. CC doesnt have to deal with low income, low performing, or challenged students. Thats an advantage
CC has a 25 mile, 6 county radius to pull from thats a great benefit. Their student enrollment make up allows them to cherry pick who they want to attend being a church based school. Thats an advantage. The same folks that argue seperation church/state are ok with a church playing in a public league. CC wants their cake and to eat it too.
If it were not an advantage to CC or CG they could play in their class based on their enrollment. They have to be moved up because the powers that be already know its an unfair advantage.
1. Two schools over 120 championships in 20 years. Explain how this happens naturally? It happens because the better athletes go to one or two schools exclusively.
2. The private/parochial schools won 12 of 14 state championship games between Catholic schools and power public schools. Explain how this happens naturally?
3. The make ups and builds of the schools are different because they have different purposes and serve two different demographics. We would easily expect private schools to be better academically, behaviorally, college prepardness, but when it comes to athletics we are now supposed to think the advantage stops? Lol.
4. Sports are a VERY high priority at CC. They are focused on winning a womens ship with Thomas, getting a football ship, and mens basketball competing regularly at the 4A level.
We play in 4A because we have 0% or so of our students on free/reduced lunch and have a pretty high WF Cup standing number. Not because of any advantage, unless you count those as advantages, which in this post you do. Based on what State BOE said classifications must be based on I'd expect that to go away since they said majority of criteria must be ADMs. Which, let's be honest, bringing those two factors into play for realignment was/is a joke. It screws schools like Piedmont for not being in an overly poor area when they have no business being in 4A.
Sports are a high priority, but academics are a huge reason why many parents have made the move to MACS/privates as whole even before COVID, but certainly after. 100% of our students go onto a four-year institution, something that we take very seriously and yes it's more important than sports, I'd know since I teach in the system.
I took classes in college that were far easier than many I took at Catholic. It as you pointed out in point 3, is on another level academically from CMS.
In regards to your fourth point. I mean Thomas is a wonderful talent, her family has been in our system for years, her older brother was a solid player and we have some nice pieces around her to be very good next year as well.
You can complain all you want, but we follow the rules set forth by the state and NCHSAA and at last check, never in any sport have we ever had to forfeit a single game for breaking any rules. I'm proud of that record, especially because we all know people watch us much more than they do most.
CC as usual you skip over points. CC and CG both play above their true enrollment class as a requirement by the state as they dont have an attendance boundary that public highschools do have.
CC and CG are sports schools. The majority of every student there plays a sport and at a high level. If it were strictly academics you could go to a non sport private school. Asked previously if being a private playing public leagues was an advantage? Everyone said surely in country club sports. Surely in academics, surely in college prepardness. But all of a sudden those same advantages dont translate to football/basketball? Even when balanced per enrollment two schools with 120 ships is a super anamoly. The avg. Highschool wins a state ship maybe once a decade. CC and CG avg. Almost 2-3 yearly. You still have not explained this phenomenon. Two schools with more ships than the majority of the state combined.
Explain how 12 of 14 state championships where Catholic schools played public schools were won by catholic schools beating major power schools? Another phenomenon i guess.
CC and CG are sports schools. The majority of every student there plays a sport and at a high level. If it were strictly academics you could go to a non sport private school. Asked previously if being a private playing public leagues was an advantage? Everyone said surely in country club sports. Surely in academics, surely in college prepardness. But all of a sudden those same advantages dont translate to football/basketball? Even when balanced per enrollment two schools with 120 ships is a super anamoly. The avg. Highschool wins a state ship maybe once a decade. CC and CG avg. Almost 2-3 yearly. You still have not explained this phenomenon. Two schools with more ships than the majority of the state combined.
Explain how 12 of 14 state championships where Catholic schools played public schools were won by catholic schools beating major power schools? Another phenomenon i guess.
I guess in your book church boy. In mine, call it what I see it. You're a coach and up here crying daily about the same **** for 5 years. Let it go clown.
bigdadd, CC and CG are not playing up in class due to their boundary lines but due to their enrollment and the past Cup performances plus the government subsidized lunch program. If I am mistaken please correct me.
Bishop McGuiness played 1A which I think is a big issue but no bigger than WS Prep, a public magnet, or a public charter playing 1A.
Bishop McGuiness played 1A which I think is a big issue but no bigger than WS Prep, a public magnet, or a public charter playing 1A.
Yes based on their true ADM they should be 3A, and had 2A numbers when in 3A. They won so much they had to be moved up a classification, and their free reduced lunch percentage is basically non existent which factored into it also. My point is even the NCHSAA realized something has to be in place to balance the playing field. With no boundary and being a private school they can cherry pick students and exclude those that dont meet their criteria. Even thr nchsaa realized socioeconomic factors hinder public schools.
Even when they sent memo about bill 91 CC mentioned if not included with public schools other private schools wouldnt play them because of their large school enrollment. And how they didnt want to mess their sports seasons up. Basically they need able body competition and not a small schedule full of scrubs and nobodies to keep the gravy train rolling. Their argument they pay taxes and should be included with public schools. Bump seperation of state, or that we ALL pay taxes for things we dont use, or the fact they CHOOSE not to use the public schools available to them. Its Hypocrisy at its finest.
Give this realignment a few years and CC will be crying to drop back down cause its not as fun when you cant win all the ships and ride the gravy train vs. Competing with actual competition.
CG had requested to play up to 4A during a previous alingment period due to their ADM being in the 4A numbers and they wanted in an all Wake 4A conference as they were looking for more competition in the country club sports but not in football, basketball, and track as they found a competitive balance there.
The reason for the move up regarding sports based on the new NCHSAA policy was the country club sports success and not men's basketball, baseball, or track. The sports they have had the most success in is more directly related to the financial economical status of the students.
The conference CC was in with Weddington and other Union County schools was a perfect fit for them for the most part.
I have always thought the Catholics should play up a classification but as I wrote a 14 years ago the Cathlic schools would not be the issue in the future, it would be the charters....and I was laughed at. In 3A and 4A the charters are not even a thought but in 1A they have flipped the balance of power. Not only do they field teams but in some cases they really dig into the player of a public school especially in the smaller areas.
I feel confident that will not happen. Catholic had been 4A before but lost a good amount of students to the new Catholic school in Huntersville, Christ the King.
I do think they liked the Union County conference and they would not have won football or basketball this year. That conference will no longer be the same so that is not the fit it once was.
There is so much wrong information here. Cardinal Gibbons actually has the ADM to be 4a. Moving up to 4a put them in a conference with geographic rivals like Leesville Road which has turned into a huge rivalry and a big money maker for both programs. Of the championships yes they win a lot of “country club“ championships. football at cardinal gibbons was restarted in the early 90s. Until the last 10 years or so breaking .500 was special for them and that was mostly at three a 2/3A level as they’ve only been playing 4a for the last 6 or so years. They slowly built a program to get to a winning level. Most of the kids there are not some sort of super athletes, they are there to go to college. Again, if they are recruiting players, as with Charlotte Catholic, who they get certainly do not pass the eye test or the recruiting test!!! they need to fire the recruiters for not getting the best athletes in Raleigh. I don’t know much about Charlotte Catholic but I’m guessing the same could be said for them. If you’re asking me for advantage with country club sports I would say it is this: for most of those sports development occurs at the young age on travel teams (AAU as well). Travel teams are expensive you don’t rent equipment or loaned equipment for sports like lacrosse or even baseball you have to buy it. For baseball, soccer, volleyball, swimming and lacrosse to get really good or competitive you have to pay thousands of dollars to be on a travel team and then hundreds of dollars if not thousands to travel all over the country to play in tournaments. Year-round. A family commitment. Same lacrosse and even basketball to a large extent. So there’s a certain demographic that competes in the sports and that demographic is I’m guessing probably the one most likely to afford to pay for a private school. Not surprisingly the public schools that out compete the private schools for those sports are in predominantly affluent neighborhoods or areas. So if there’s an advantage that would be the advantage. I think the advantages vanish in football where there are many more factors, travel teams are not a big influence. With football I think it’s primarily about commitment, Cardinal Gibbons was not committed to having a winning football program until about 10 years ago it was all about lacrosse, When they were successful in moving up to 4a And being able to compete against the local teams it change the focus.
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I've said for years, when Charlotte Catholic gets off the bus, they look like NASA interns. Where do you find elite 5'8" 150lb cb's? I just don't get the recruiting part. They're just not going to out Athlete you. Maybe they dominate in the Country Clubs sports. They're more uniformly structured, outside of that. I'm not seeing it in Football.
Stop this false narrative that CC or CG dont have athletes. They have great athletes in all sports. Watched Chambers/CG and CG was way more talented along both lines, and the LB level. Not even a close comparison. Chambers had better skill guys, but overall talent the advantage was CG.
The same effort CC/CG parents put into country club sports they put into basketball and football also. You cant just say its just country club sports. Its ALL sports at CC. The elite training, travel teams, specialist, paying the expenses to be great. Football has become year round with 7 v 7, weight training, spring ball/workouts. CG has an elite football team, CC has a great football team. Both have good to great athletes playing football.
Also I've never used the word recruiting as it pertains to CC/CG. They dont have to recruit and they play by the rules. They have excellent coaching staffs and work hard. Not even about them. Its about private schools competing vs. public schools and the inequities in competition that exist.
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I wonder where all this elite athletes and football talk was before the championship game? I went on Twitter and looked at some of the bowl rosters, final All state teams. I could be wrong but I think Mason is the only player from Charlotte Catholic or Cardinal Gibbons that seems to be on every list as a first team player. beyond him Shepard and Grace are on a few second teams and a few other Cardinal Gibbons players on the third team and honorable mentions. Cardinal Gibbons High School signingps were in the newspaper last week, yes just last week ago and there were no power five signees. a few FCS and everyone else it appear to be D3. They did have one Duke signee in the fall that was it for the FBS level as far as I see. I don’t think he was on any Allstate teams. I don’t see any Charlotte Catholic players First team All state in any of the major postings or bowl game rosters. Conversely, chambers was well represented at all levels as was Hough, and multiple teams in the piedmont. So not everyone agrees with your idea that the private schools are loaded with talent. There was one other player on that list from a private school in Charlotte. No one here thought it was going to be close. There were several people who said that there wasn’t one cardinal gibbons player that would start at chambers. On the NC prep show one of the coaches I can’t member his name I believe he coaches the West Meck also said there wasn’t one person at Cardinal Gibbons Who would be a starter at Chambers. There was a former coach who said “unless footlocker get involved it would not be close” And everyone on a panel except bass agreed. Coach Grice also jumped in to talk about the talent disparity between Cardinal Gibbons and chambers oh and by the way when they did the final year all-star assessment that NC preps list is the only list that Mason was not on which meant they felt there was no one in Cardinal Gibbons or Charlotte Catholic Good enough to be considered one of the best in the state. So there is no way you can tell me to suddenly believe they have great athletes because they don’t. I will say the parental commitment is there the community support is there but there are lots of public schools with that same level of support. No one had this narrative when the schools were competing at the 3A level
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I know you’re adamant about the advantages of the CC & CG of the world but athletically they do not match up with Chambers at all. The comparison of college commits and offers, not close. Other sports, I’m clueless.
Yeah those are false negatives and play into stereotypes. We have to stop being talking heads and actually look with our eyes. Stereotypes work both ways. Had heard for years that West Charlotte had the best athletes and I clearly remember some of the most unathletic teams fielded. Whereas MC, Vance,CC, Hough, MP, AK had superior athletes but all you hear are stereotypes about westside schools having all this talent. Alot of schools barely get guys into juco or these pop up post grad schools. For the high school level players 1 through 50 CG, and CC are extremely talented and deep. Some of the top schools have a couple d1 guys, but you wont mention that 5'10" 230 pound OL that will never play football again. Its hard to sign guys to college, and not many teams routinely send a bunch of guys unless they just all transfer to a school Jr or Sr. year.
The great RC only had 3 guys sign to college. 2 D2, and one post grad GMI. Chambers had 2 Swindell and Pearce. Next year a few more. But Chambers was built with avg. to good talent that will never play football again. Talent nowadays in sports is based on affluence. especially in basketball, and then football. Its money and affluence. Who can pay for trainers, specialist and elite travel teams. Using college signings as an exclusive measure of highschool team talent is biased and outdated. Using old racial sports stereotypes is even more biased and outdated but that's what the media/sports types do. Just an initial eye test I'd take CG QB over Chambers QB. Id take CG Offensive line over Chambers, Would take CG linebackers over Chambers. Would take CG DBS as a unit over Chambers. As individuals Chambers has better dbs. As a unit CG is better. Thats not talk but an eye test. The size difference between CG and Chambers was huge. CG was much bigger esepcially once Swindell got hurt. Anyone that says CG had no one that would start at Chambers is just talking and hasnt analyzed anything.
Do Public schools get to practice football any day or do they have dates set by the state that they can practice or meet as a team during season , post season and preseason..... Are the RULES the same for Private schools...If not , then WHY.....
Another false narrative. They matchup with Chambers just fine athletically as a group as evidenced by the championship game. CG had a very impressive season and is plenty talented especially along the lines and back 7 on defense. CG is the early favorite to repeat in 4A. Chambers struggled vs. Hough and TBH Hough would have beaten CG, or played a much better game than Chambers. You cant just look at 3-4 skill guys and say a team is more athletic. CG dominated the LOS in every game they played. Hough dominated every game they played except for the 4th quarter in 2nd game vs. Chambers. Said it on here it would be hard to beat CG twice.
I'm definitely not looking at just 3-4 skills guys, I'm looking at both teams depth charts. Which I've put a lot of research in. Hough is a horrible example of anything they accomplish, as 75% of their starters come from other schools. CG, also didn't match up in the Championship game. CG staff, outcoached Chambers.
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The rules are the same with regards to practice between private and public schools. The only exception that I can recall was during Covid When did Gibbons players were allowed to return I think two weeks earlier. Not sure about that just read it in the forms on high school OT. That could be wrong but people in wake county were complaining about gibbons having A two week head start over other conference members. That being said no one in wake county complained about wake teams having a advantage over Durham conference members who never had the opportunity to start until almost a month later.
Correct! They’ve recently had OL (guards) that were 175 lbs but played with good technique and a mean streak! They have a system and there is no wiggle room for ‘I ‘ players.
Here’s the funny part, that 5”10” 230 pound offensive lineman, that’s kind of the norm for Cardinal Gibbons. Go look at the Max prep or any of the papers height weight for the players. I don’t think Cardinal Gibbons High School Had a single player close to 300 pounds on that line and maybe one maybe one over 6’2”. On the Defense, Cardinal Gibbons only had one defensive back over 6 feet on the roster. And he was the first player who was hurt halfway through the first half of the championship game. The other player who might be 6 feet was out that game. In the first game Chambers targeted him because it was his first varsity game. So I don’t understand this advantage from a physical standpoint. Looking now they had one linebacker who was 5’11 and a converted receiver playing linebacker who was about 6 feet. The only returning starter in the defensive backfield from the prior season was Mason. He is probably 5’9” on a good day. The rest probably in that 5’9” to 5’11” range. So I don’t see this in critical physical advantage. Primary CG RB/weapon Shepard is probably about 5’7”, maybe and 160 in pads. I saw these kids versus Rolesville. the Roseville kids were huge compared to Gibbons. Towered over them. The three inside offensive lineman for chambers We’re twice the size of anybody on the Gibbons defense line. Not close. Chambers linebackers were bigger than the Gibbons offensive lineman. The tackle on pierce was that pierces shoulder. Truly in the trenches Gibbons played the low man leverage wins Technique to grind it out
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