Closing the barn doors after the horses are gone..... day late and a dollar short..... wow, Nellie is finally getting involved after Kraft has burnt the program to the ground - what an f'ing joke. They should have named TS weeks ago as it waa a zero risk option (all upside). Smith keeps a good portion of the team in place and you can always reset the coaching search at the end of next year if you don't like the direction things are going (and you can do it with a lot more advance planning.... and do some groundwork before the announcement.... etc....). As it stands now, Kraft has nuked the one positive that developed at the end of the year - winning three straight to get Bowl eligible. Now PSU is likely going to have to turn down any Bowl Bid because the players have already stated they're leaving and going with Terry wherever he ends up. I see no way that PSU can field a Bowl team given what PSU's senior-management clown show has done.
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Closing the barn doors after the horses are gone..... day late and a dollar short..... wow, Nellie is finally getting involved after Kraft has burnt the program to the ground - what an f'ing joke. They should have named TS weeks ago as it waa a zero risk option (all upside). Smith keeps a good portion of the team in place and you can always reset the coaching search at the end of next year if you don't like the direction things are going (and you can do it with a lot more advance planning.... and do some groundwork before the announcement.... etc....). As it stands now, Kraft has nuked the one positive that developed at the end of the year - winning three straight to get Bowl eligible. Now PSU is likely going to have to turn down any Bowl Bid because the players have already stated they're leaving and going with Terry wherever he ends up. I see no way that PSU can field a Bowl team given what PSU's senior-management clown show has done.
It may get worse. Last night it seemed we had a shot at Campbell now this morning before they are even out of bed and at work yet the tables turned during the night, and Campbell is probably staying. Lord, I hope that's not correct.
I believe the rumors about Kraft’s hiring power being reeled in. The search went from tight lipped to leaking like a sieve.
In the end, they all rejected Penn State and in many cases did so for less money.
Oh no, one of the most negative posters on here while Franklin was here is going to put me on ignore….how will I ever survive?
After listening to him, how could anyone with any self respect work for a guy like Kraft? What a piece of garbage. He is the antithesis of everything PSU was and should be about. How does someone hire that guy to be the AD of a major university? How?!?!
Ever come across a person where you said to yourself, "you couldn't pay me to work for that person". I wonder if that is what they think of Kraft.
LOL as if Kraft can speak from experience? He hasn't manufactured any championships in his lifetime and he's F'n tone def to the situation he as created. So he's doubling down on his tough talk? um I say he should put up or shut up
Serious question, cause I dont know the answer. Who hired Kraft? Cause they need to go as well.
I cant help but think someone is in the background trying to destroy the program. Maybe Kraft is in on it, maybe he is simply a pawn.
Let’s look at what he did. He started by talking tough in October. Didn’t have anything in place in November. Missed signing day, because he was all in on Sitake. Good coach, but not that big of a differentiator to give up a recruiting class. Should have been fired then. Lost Sitake. Becomes unhinged and makes it about himself. Looks like he’s losing Campbell, who would have been a great hire two weeks ago. He’s making Franklin, who should have been fired after NW look like the victim. If this is Kraft doing the BOT’s bidding, they are all idiots, but we knew that.
I don’t care if Urban Meyer is announced today, Kraft must go
Occam's razor: the simplest explanation, with the fewest assumptions, is usually the best one. This massive clusterf**k is not a conspiracy. Kraft simply miscalculated in his valuation of the PSU job and its desirability. He missed opportunities for competent people who would have taken the job by holding out for "home run" hires that were unreasonable.
No one is conspiring to leave PSU without a coach: not the players, Sexton or some nefarious plot at the boardroom level. Kraft just made a mistake and the structure allowed him to make it. The decision on who to offer and when and what time table to follow should not be left to one person. That leads to stupid **** like this.
Bendatpudi.
This is the result of a perfect storm of malevolence meeting incompetence. It's not being done behind the scenes.
The issues at hand here did not just congeal out of thin air two days - or two months - ago.
Clearly, to anyone paying attention, they have been festering for a long, long time.
Agree, but I would add in the arrogance, incompetence or naivety ( probably all 3)not to identify indicators showing he was on the wrong path and adjusting. Sitake was not a home run, and to go past signing day for him was egregious.
What else explains this at this point. I have a hard time believing that one person can screw up this bad. Most of the people on this board, who don't know anything about running a program, could have hired a coach by now.
A school that puts 100k in the stands every game and has money to burn shouldn't have this difficult of a time hiring a good coach.
I dont know if its certain players, administration, BoT, or whomever. But something stinks here, and I dont think its just Kraft.
I certainly wasnt relieved when she got involved. What does she know about hiring a football coach. Instead of one idiot talking to potential coaches, we now have 2.
By the time Kraft got on the "path", it was too late. Wheels should have been set in motion months (if accounts are to be believed) much earlier this year.. Obstacles would remain, but Kraft would have been in a better position to negotiate them.
A poster from TOS stated that Cli9fford and Deluca were getting 500 k a year, Allar was very highly paid in the Heisman contender range, and Franklin promised Olesh more than three tight ends on our roster combined. That is just ridiculous. There were other problems with Franklin too attitude wise.
Women and hiring decisions - not a good mix.
lol at all the Terry Smith lover boys that constantly **** on Kraft.
Whatever player leaked that is a complete idiot and just made it 100% sure Smith won’t be hired or retained
Whatever player leaked that is a complete idiot and just made it 100% sure Smith won’t be hired or retained
No wonder Kraft had issues with how Franklin was using NIL. Franklin did not make NIL decisions in the best interests of the university.
It's fairly simple it's just a bad batch of sausage.
In LA the Gov stepped in and took care of things it worked out pretty good for them, see Kiffin. Maybe the Gov of PA needs to step in and fire the entire hierarchy at PS set up a Gov's board until the house cleaning at PS is done and done the right way.
To me, it seems obvious that Franklin was just mismanaging things and certainly did not generate the mindset in the locker room needed. The team was always underprepared for big games and played scared and generally would look sluggish and without passion after losses or bye weeks. Time was here for him to go and for the team to make a fresh start.
But it can be true that Franklin needed to go and firing him was the right move while also realizing that Kraft has f'ed up with process beyond reason. Just getting a reasonable coach in place before signing day wasn't some huge complicated task.
Both Franklin and Kraft has shown massive deficiencies that have to be fixed for this team to thrive.
So, no news seems like pretty bad news for Campbell. I haven't seen anything official or even really leaked from typical sources which unfortunately would be more in line with status quo (him staying) rather than any change. I guess we can hold out hope that there is either still ongoing negotiations or he is keeping it quiet so he can tell the team, etc personally that he is leaving
Looks like he was pretty much an idiot. I would first give every player a baseline minimal amount than divy it up based on performance.
I agree, I have heard Campbell had reached out to PSU a while back but wouldn't commit until after the season. Who knows? This might have lead to some issues.
He was meeting with the team at 9 am or so I think. Or that's when he is meeting with the University President.
It's 8:59 in Ames and we are at DEFCON 1.
Well, the flip side is that if he were definitely staying, it's easy to have a quick press conference or media release with a statement to that effect. So in that sense, maybe the silence is good. Because there's often more build up when there is a change especially if some details are being ironed out. So, who knows?
Here's hoping we get some good news today
I'm at the point where I don't care who they hire as the coach. The far more important issue is getting rid of Kraft. We cannot have that guy associated with the football program in any way.
Well, the flip side is that if he were definitely staying, it's easy to have a quick press conference or media release with a statement to that effect. So in that sense, maybe the silence is good. Because there's often more build up when there is a change especially if some details are being ironed out. So, who knows?
Here's hoping we get some good news today
No word of iowa state giving him an extension, yet.
If this is true. Why has nobody stepped in well before this point if it was obvious Kraft was way over his head. Either its incompetence leading incompetence, or something is rotten. That rot is within PSU. I dont believe outside sources like Sexton are involved.
WRT the "Coach Search" (which, in many ways, is the least - or at least the lesser - of the many issues facing PSU Athletics):
The one thing that is abundantly clear is that whomever takes the job, the one attractive aspect to them will be:
"PSU will pay me a hella' lot more $$$ than anyone else, and the $$$ is very important to me."
Because, otherwise, it ain't there - for a candidate with other similar options.
Of course, the $$$ is very important to a lot of people (nothing wrong with that), and there will be, obviously, a football coach at PSU soon. But that's the lay of the land (and, obviously, very sub-optimal)
The one thing that is abundantly clear is that whomever takes the job, the one attractive aspect to them will be:
"PSU will pay me a hella' lot more $$$ than anyone else, and the $$$ is very important to me."
Because, otherwise, it ain't there - for a candidate with other similar options.
Of course, the $$$ is very important to a lot of people (nothing wrong with that), and there will be, obviously, a football coach at PSU soon. But that's the lay of the land (and, obviously, very sub-optimal)
Eh. I think the most important thing to get a HC in place. There's no urgency in firing Kraft; in fact PSU would be better off trying to negotiate a settlement with him to try to lessen the financial obligation and letting him "resign" to make him more appealing for any future jobs.
BINGO and you and I don’t always agree. I think and have said all of the following over the years:
(1) I think Paterno was the greatest college coach ever;
(2) Having said #1, he hurt the program by staying 10-15 years to long prior to his firing in 2011;
(3) Having said 2, Joe was a good and honorable man who was made into the worst scapegoat I have seen in my 73 years on this planet by the BOT and Administration to cover their you know whats and deflect attention away from their failures involving Sandusky such as giving him a retirement package which granted Sandusky access to campus facilities and the ability to bring Second Mile kids on campus despite Paterno’s written criticism of the latter when asked for his comments on the retirement package and failing to report the incident to DPW after Paterno acted properly (and consistently with an official NCAA policy announced a couple months after imposing sanctions) and promptly reported whatever McQueary told him to his boss, Curley, who in turn told Schultz who consulted with university counsel about the duty to report suspected abuse and never did so despite counsel’s recommendation to do so and the fact that the reporting statute imposed the duty to report on the person in charge who was Spanier, etc; and
(4) Coaches like O’Brien who whine about alleged JoeBOTs being an impediment to the program moving forward are excuse makers (I don’t recall Ray Perkins whining about Bear Bryant loyalists holding the program back and affecting his ability to coach after he was fired as the first coach to succeed the Bear.
I don't think it became clear that he was this incompetent until earlier this week. I mean, over the past few weeks wouldn't any updates from him have been stuff like "we are talking to X, Y and Z" or "I am offering $A for the HC and $B for the staff". He could have even said he had an agreement in place with Sitake an was ready to announce once ink was dry.