Agree, especially ( I know it’s idealistic) as a BOT member. Though they are mostly self centered attention hogs, I would hope for more from a Paterno
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Denial is a positive drug.
Anyone who takes anything from Lavar Arrington seriously? Not even worth engaging.
Obviously, I get it
, it is much more comforting to engage in contorted conspiracy theories of "Internal or External Sabotage" rather than to recognize inconvenient and obvious truths.it is what it is.
As I said previously the best way to respond to Franklin’s trolling is to hire a good coach and win Big and possibly National Championships and then you troll Franklin all you want.
They want Terry.
I don't have a link but watch the video of Lavar from Sirius XM this morning. Paterno's are paying for flying banners, and stickers, and posters for Terry Smith. But getting a "Paterno-guy" in there, he can influence the exoneration of JoePa.
Pretty sure I've figured out why. It's because being the PSU head coach = working for Kraft. Deal breaker.
This is my ongoing take as well - there is too much weirdness going on for there not to be something behind the scenes and Paterno loyalist trying to manipulate (perhaps in opposition to Paterno haters who adamantly want to hide him away forever) make some sense. It is an issue that has divided the university and dominated so much for the past decade plus.
I just wish some cooler heads would prevail and the school would just put up the statue (or honor Joe some other way) and allow him to be part of the advertisements around the team to placate those who might be undermining things but also just be willing to move forward and not have everything football have to revolve around Paterno. There's a balance to be struck instead of two sides in complete opposition. Sigh.
Attaboy. Coming from the guy who tries to undermine everyone and everything PSU related on a daily basis while hiding behind the delusion that you’re the “only one that really cares about PSU”. There’s a reason why you started a whole new thread with the Kraft leaked video and why you posted the Abdul Carter two truck incident to Facebook when it happened.LOL
Denial is a positive drug.
Anyone who takes anything from Lavar Arrington seriously? Not even worth engaging.
Obviously, I get it
it is what it is.
Wowzer. If there is real documented evidence to this, there must a reckoning with Jay being removed from the BOT with a statement to the public and any PSU football staff and players involved must be released.For anyone that hasn’t listened to LaVar’s XM radio this morning (Two Pros and a cup of Joe), go take a listen. Wow.He goes scorched earth on Jay and Lubrano. Moreso Jay. Says Jay is short selling PSU behind the scenes and sabotaging the whole program. Also, says he is using Terry as a pawn out of selfishness to attempt to clear Joe’s name. It’s a no holds barred tongue lashing. He also said Jay was leading the charge to get rid of Franklin and insinuated that he had been for some time.
Reasonable analysts would have PSU as a top-15 job. That also seems to align fairly well with average team rankings and even recruiting rankings.
Knight has been very open about his praise for Paterno. I don't think the removing his name from the building was his call but a corporate PR driven one from Nike.
I'm still in shock at the reports on how badly Franklin mismanaged NIL funds to current players and recruits. He needed to go based just off that.
There are constructive ways to rewrite a narrative, and there are petty ways to do the same. If what is being reported here is true (not saying I’m buying it, but going with the premise), then Jay is doing a disservice to his father’s legacy. Regardless, this is a ghost we all need to bury…hard to move forward when you have one foot stuck in the past.
Penn State should be able to outbid ISU for Matt Campbell if he is inclined to move on. Saw this in a USA Today article on Penn State and Campbell:
"The Iowa State athletic department has a $147 million “funding gap” through fiscal 2031."
"The Iowa State athletic department has a $147 million “funding gap” through fiscal 2031."
Not to mention the “getting rid of Franklin” train didn’t need Jay to be the conductor. It had a mind of its own set afire by the 10 year contract, was fueled by the media (who now has a new set of lips stuck to his arse) and Franklin couldn’t win to save himself anyway.
Maybe the conspiracy exists and maybe that's its goal. So how are they doing it?
I am a Paterno supporter, but I want this coaching search to be successful. I am on board with hiring Campbell.
"According to the investigation, it appears Joe made missteps that led to heartbreaking consequences. I missed that Joe missed it, and I am extremely saddened on this day. My love for Joe and his family remains."
I guess so. But it seemed there was enough smoke to indicate this wasnt the case long before Sitake said he was staying put. I dont believe everything out there is true, but some of the various rumors likely are.
It's very easy to squash rumors and say I'm staying.Well, the flip side is that if he were definitely staying, it's easy to have a quick press conference or media release with a statement to that effect. So in that sense, maybe the silence is good. Because there's often more build up when there is a change especially if some details are being ironed out. So, who knows?
Here's hoping we get some good news today
yep, this is ultimately what it comes down to for Campbell, does he want to stay at ISU and make decent $ with confort in the people he has working around him and an athletic program that is maxed out cash wise, or does he want to come to Negative Valley and make a whole boat load of cash but deal with idiots
Both points are very true.
But one big point here is that Iowa State provides next to nothing in NIL to their players and recruits. The number being floated right now is 30 million ANNUALLY to build a roster. We may be the most toxic AD in the country, but we want to win. And he'll get every opportunity to do it here.
In spite of the unfair portrayal by the media that Joe was some kind of a deity, he was only human. But that's what the media does. They build you up just to tear you down. I still have a tremendous respect for Joe and what he did for Penn State.
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I'm listening to this Kraft audio. This is the best thing I've heard since Bob Knight's halftime speech. Good stuff. Maybe he wants to be the coach. If so, I will be listening to any audio they have. Great motivational speaker, but I am a dinosaur and understand this stuff probably won't work with kids these days.
Media members and some posters had been mentioning a mystery big candidate for weeks but no one could ferret out who it was. Then sorta left it for dead since they couldn’t confirm AND he wasn’t on anyone’s radar. It’s plausible this was done quietly somehow.
I feel like Cael somehow had a hand in this.
Come here, upset OSU while going 8-4 or better and all will be good.
IIRC that quote is from right after the Freeh Report was released and he later recanted what he said once it became evident that Freeh was just a paid for opinion piece without any basis in reality
Then there won’t be any excuse for the next coach (if Kraft ever hires one) for not winning those Big and National Championships Kraft said Franklin was fired for not winning huh? Maybe O’Brien can be persuaded to come back once they are all extinct. What BOTs is he blaming his lousy record at BC this year on?
Get Jeff Hafley from the Packers and be done with it. Then hire him a competent GM so he only has to coach.
JoePa was a narcissist who held grudges himself. It's not entirely surprising that his son would be the same way.
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Denial is a positive drug.
Anyone who takes anything from Lavar Arrington seriously? Not even worth engaging.
Obviously, I get it
it is what it is.
No one has to engage in conspiracy theorizing ... you, Jay and Lubrano appear to be on the same path of destruction.
Because you haven't gotten your way ... because everyone hasn't stopped everything and revered JoePa to your liking, you have decided to try to destroy every aspect of the university.
Everything the university does comes with an attack by you. It doesn't matter how silly or uninformed it is, you will levy a charge of incompetence or corruption at anything the university does.
No conspiracy thinking needed - you're doing it right out in the open. Just check these boards and your blog (or whatever that is) for evidence of this. And since you, Jay and Lubrano were frequently in lockstep in your criticisms, voting, etc., it's logical to put you in the same basket of thoughts/actions.
You're toxic. You're a fungus. Go away.