I’m okay with hiring Hartline, but my expectations of his success are tempered as it would be with most of the replacements they’re talking about.
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I get some hesitancy. My counter point would be Could Saban only recruit at LSU? No he did fine at Alabama. Could urban only recruit at Florida? No he fine at OSU. Many other examples of coaches recruiting successes at multiple schools. Hartline has been churning out top pick NFL WRs for years like a factory. Those kids are going to follow him anywhere because he gives them the best shot at the NFL. I just don't want another retread HC that will win 7 games a year like Franklin. Hire someone new and energetic. It may or may not work. But I know if we had hired Rhule etc we are looking at 7-8 win seasons still.
Yes Smith was covered all day ... He should transfer out of OSU to PSUThey don’t get separation.
Matt Campbell in trouble against ASU. They lose here and it's 5-4.
I didn’t suffer through it. I went for a walk and mowed the lawn for the last time this year. I was done watching this horseshit after the UCLA disaster. They’re all being paid enough to give a better effort.
To be fair, beating Ohio state 25% of the time should be expected to keep the job. Only thing that should exempt that is winning conferences and/or national titles.
While not a good look to fans like us I doubt it matters much in the interview process assuming he's gotten there.
And Louisville (Brohm) down 16-7 to Virginia Tech at the half.
And Vandy (Lea) lost to Texas.
Bad day for the "auditioning" coaches.
Manny Diaz interviewed well today by beating Clemson on the road.
The only thing that keeps Louisiana from being the worst hellhole in the country is Mississippi. PA certainly isn't at the top of the heap by any means but compared to those places it looks pretty good.
This is all fantastic news for PSU. LSU is a dumpster fire right now with political nonsense and no president, AD or coach in place. LSU is a better job than PSU under normal conditions so this mess may help prevent LSU from hiring someone that PSU is targeting.Recall this story:
La. governor: LSU AD won't select football coach
Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry told reporters Wednesday that LSU athletic director Scott Woodward won't be involved in selecting the Tigers' new football coach in the wake of Brian Kelly's firing.www.espn.com
I know that lsu is a public university, but how does this happen? The governor stepped in and interfered with the hiring process. Then, the AD was fired today.
Dumb question: Could this happen at PSU? PSU is STATE.-RELATED.. Does that matter? Could the PA governor get in the way?
But there are parts of Mississippi that are way nicer than anywhere in PA, so there’s that.
Of course he is not; Hartline is the beneficiary of an excellent culture. OSU recruits itself, and though Hartline has continued, and elevated, the WR room, OSU has had a history of putting #1 round talent into the NFL: Joey Galloway, Seattle Seahawks; Terry Glenn, New England Patriots; David Boston, Arizona Cardinals; Michael Jenkins, Atlanta Falcons; Santanio Holmes, Pittsburgh Steelers; Ted Ginn Jr., Miami Dolphins all precede Hartline. In addition, Hartline has been the beneficiary of Day's ability of bringing in and correctly developing elite QB talent. Just look at Sayin. The kid is insanely talented, sat on the bench and learned. Day then started him off slowly and gradually opened the playbook for him. You only draw top flight talent if you have a top flight QB. Hartline does not recruit the QBs, Day is the guy who vets them.
But I understand the appeal even though I do not see Kraft handing the keys to a rebuild to green coach. As for retread rhetoric. Saban was a retread. Urban was a retread. Harbaugh was a retread. Kiffin was a retread and so on.
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I've heard that Matt Campbell has also desired the OSU job for a while. There's no guarantees on what happens a few years from now, it'd be silly to not hire someone we want solely because we are worried they may leave in a few years. You just need to hire the guy you think is best for the job, full stop. We deal with whatever happens later when the time comes.
There is a zero percent chance that Ohio State would consider Matt Campbell as a head coach, both in this lifetime and the next.
I'm still laughing at how bad this passing game will be next year with this wide receiver room and KEY coaching it 
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Just hire Jeff Monken at Army and do it right at least
.Just hire Jeff Monken at Army and do it right at least
Interesting, you call it a rebuild...and basically it is. This is a 3 win team most likely at seasons end. I don't see another win on the schedule.... maybe Rutgers.
In WV we always say, thank God for Mississippi!!
A terrible place to recruit even back in the day when he was there. He performed miracles with what he had.
NOT!Gus Johnson just said Brian Kelly is a perfect fit for Penn State. I couldn't believe I heard that so I ran it back.
You need to put some context on your retread comment. The coaches you named are not matt Rhule or Campbell etc. Saban won a natty at LSU. Urban was 22-2 at Utah including 10-2 his first season then 12-0 including being the first team from a non bcs conference to play in a bcs bowl. Harbaugh coached in a super bowl. So if you can find a retread like that most would welcome it. Including Jon Gruden.
It will be better than this year.I'm still laughing at how bad this passing game will be next year with this wide receiver room and KEY coaching it
Just hire Jeff Monken at Army and do it right at least
Yes. And I hear there were no DBs within 3 rows of himDid Hartline fly to Happy Valley with the PSU team after the game?
If they had run the Army triple option against osu, it would have been a close game.
Pure chaos!
They should abandon the idiotic passing game now.
Been saying it for years. Just watch them with MRob at QB.
Yes he said it but Kelly to PSU, no way!!Well he said it.
I actually think with this QB and these receivers and coaches...yeah, the triple option sounds about right
Some quick takes:
After watching a bit of ISU's games this week and last week, I'm unimpressed with Campbell. Yes, his team plays tough and hard, but...it's just not enough to win.
Indiana really impressed me today. They got into a little bit of trouble early at Maryland, but kept their composure very nicely and sailed to a nice victory. If I were Kraft, I'd be courting Cignetti if at all possible. My opinion of him went up tremendously today. Okay, it's only Maryland, but Indiana really looked solid, composed, and disciplined.
Louisville finished off VT all right, but they were behind at halftime. Didn't watch enough of the game to figure out what the problem was.
After watching a bit of ISU's games this week and last week, I'm unimpressed with Campbell. Yes, his team plays tough and hard, but...it's just not enough to win.
Indiana really impressed me today. They got into a little bit of trouble early at Maryland, but kept their composure very nicely and sailed to a nice victory. If I were Kraft, I'd be courting Cignetti if at all possible. My opinion of him went up tremendously today. Okay, it's only Maryland, but Indiana really looked solid, composed, and disciplined.
Louisville finished off VT all right, but they were behind at halftime. Didn't watch enough of the game to figure out what the problem was.