Rhule still cannot win big games, even with a new contract. We dodged a bullet on that one.
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They probably would have won this game if Raiola hadn’t been injured early in the 2nd half. As we know it’s tough to beat anybody without a passing game.
You really think in Rhules contract there’s not an out for PSU??
georgia tech lost to unranked nc state today, 48-36.
Key will be fine with our resources.
Key will be fine with our resources.
I'm still laughing at how bad this passing game will be next year with this wide receiver room and KEY coaching it.
Just hire Jeff Monken at Army and do it right at least
Army’s deep game is more of a threat than PSUs.
Even Tulane (sumrall) lost this week. Most of our candidates seem distracted lately for some reason.georgia tech lost to unranked nc state today, 48-36.
Key will be fine with our resources.
They are all tanking on purpose to avoid long post season runs and get to Happy Valley asap?Even Tulane (sumrall) lost this week. Most of our candidates seem distracted lately for some reason.
I’d like to see our candidates get the runs.
Auburn and Kentucky prolly can’t jump into the coaching carousel with UF, LSU, and PSU in there already . But after KY downs War Eagle, the Freeze love is zero degrees Kelvin .
I watched the game. If Raiola doesn’t go down in the 3rd quarter the Huskers probably win. Sucks.Kraft is undeterred.
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That’s fair to a certain extent. Like when Clifford went down at Iowa with PSU dominating and not having a serviceable backup to finish off the game. As we blamed Franklin for that in Iowa City, that also falls on Rhule last night. Also, when Raiola went down, Nebraska had the lead and their defense gave up two more scores.
There run defense is terrible lost some good DT last year that got drafted. Tough at QB now with the portal and all the transfers. See Pribula and Levis.
Miami fans are asking to hire Franklin ...yeesh
Yup. Asking Nebraska's D to stand strong and the O to "just do enough" was asking too much. Reminded me too much of Penn State late game collapses (see USC in the bowl game, but there were others) when the O couldn't control the ball/clock and the D got tired or otherwise collapsed. When Nebraska gave up the 2 point conversion for USC to tie it, I figured they were doomed.
1. I have never suggested that Matt Rhule was the right hire for Penn State. If you can find one place where I said that please quote it here. Campell is an intriguing option for me because he has done what no one else before him had done with Iowa State. No one. Is he the right fit? Not sure, but he warrants consideration 2. I have yet to see you discriminate between HCs, bundling them all together as "retreads" and superciliously dismissing them in favor of Hartline. Not that you have furnished any critera, but if we extrapolate from your dismissal of many sitting coaches Saban should not have been hired at LSU Saban was at Michigan State before he was hired at LSU and won a Natty. From 1995 to 1997, he coached Michigan State, and finished 6–5–1, 6–6, and 7–5. In 98 he went 6-6. In 99 he went 9 and 2. Hindsight NOT being 20/20 dollars to donuts many of you would be sneering at LSU's hire which was the first step in meteoric rise to arguably establishing him as the greatest college coach of all time (to date), The point is this. Because a coach has not demonstrated a stellar record in places that lack the resources and talent to post unblemished records does not mean that they will not become exceptional coaches when other variables are in place. 3. I think Hartline has proven to be an excellent position coach and is in the process of learning to become an excellent OC. He is being handheld by arguably one of the best head coaches in the business today. He is afforded unlimited resources and is in a culture where he has his pick of the very best talent. What I do not know is: 1. How skilled is he in talking to administrators? 2. Boosters? 3. Can he repair a program that has simply collapsed? 4. Can he recruit from a position of weakness? I think Hartline will be an excellent HC in a year or two. Not just yet. As for retreads, there are several capable people that can right the ship, but they will not be the marquee names that people are fixated on. Penn State is in a state of collapse. The next coach will need to have the ability to fix it from the ground up. In any case, we all have our opinions.
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Cignetti is not an option. People need to get over this. Indiana took a risk to bring in a coach from JMU and it hit. Trying to capitalize on someone else's gamble is somewhat lazy. Penn State needs to go out and look for someone analogous. Chesney may be that guy
Franklin will have his pick of teams. As they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure. James will be fine and will be successful wherever he goes. He is passionate, personable and his players love him (and why the recruiting classes are emptying out (unlike UF).
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PLEASE,AGENT.....KEEP ME AWAY FROM THE SEC AND THE BIG 10 CONFRENCE OPENINGS,ONLY ACC LEVEL TEAMS,SO I CAN WIN MY 7,8, PER YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not sure that all of the board have stayed up-to-date on available head coaches. I’m also convinced that many don’t understand the realities of who is actually available beyond that. Cignetti, Rhule and Lashlee (SMU) are all off the board due to recent contract extensions with extreme prohibitive buyouts. Saban trashed us on gameday and Meyer stated he is not coming out of retirement while simultaneously endorsing Hartline, so eliminate them as well. Neither Saban or Meyer is a viable candidate anyway, as quite frankly, there’s no real evidence above a hope and prayer that either one would be successful in this era. Look at Dabo, another successful coach from the era, and he is unable to succeed in this one. Beyond those five, I would eliminate head coaches that are likely in contention for the college football playoff. We can’t wait until January. There’s no practical way for a school to build a roster after the season, concludes, including the full portal season and December high school signing period. That eliminates fantasies of Elko and Kiffin, who we wouldn’t be able to afford anyway in a bidding war with their current schools. There’s a fantasy regarding DeBoer as well. He has a highly punitive buyout in the next couple years. He is off the board. What we are left with are established hc’s like Campbell, Drink, and Diaz, newer promising hc’s like Key, Sumrall, Golesh, Lea, or Chesney, or coordinators like Brady (that one may be a fantasy as well) or Hartline. One of those guys in that remaining list will be our next head coach, unless there’s something completely out of left field who was not considered by anybody to date.
Unfortunately Brian Kelly is very much in the mix to replace Franklin
really dude trashes players and is not one to unite a fan base no way.
tough sale on this one as he will be in the CFP and PSU cannot realistically wait till then.
We should wait as long as needed if it means we get Elko
This isn't a hire for 2026...this is a hire for the long term.
Plus he can raid A&M when he leaves.
Lando, not doubting what you are saying, but what is the draw for Elko to go to PSU? Why does he leave what he has going at A&M? Is it simply a return to Northeast? Doesn't have to play an SEC schedule? Any ideas on his reasons for maybe making the move?
A&M most likely has deeper pockets than PSU. They will most likely match and blow away any offer PSU would make.
Well said and a great breakdown of realistic options. Some here have delusions of grandeur of the situation.
Valid questions--based on what is being said:
His wife doesn't like Texas and wasn't thrilled leaving Duke to go to A&M
He sees the Big Ten as easier to navigate and Penn State as a program that should/could be in the playoff yearly
The SEC going to 9 conference games just made his life way more difficult--having to play Texas, LSU and (I think) Mizzou yearly was arguably the worst draw of any SEC team. Next year he has to play those 3 plus Bama, South Carolina, Tennessee and Oklahoma. They also play ASU in a non-conference game. Compare that to our schedule
Elko apparently never saw A&M as a destination job--just a better opportunity to showcase what he was capable of accomplishing.
Of those that you listed as realistic established HC options, Drink probably has the most upside and he recruits PA already and uses the portal well.