New coach

[JVP_Yahweh]

 

[KingLando]

Wait until some here realize that this is going to take a few years to rebuild to where PSU was recently. Will the new coach get a few years to do it or will the Fire Franklin crowd run him out of town also. I hope it doesn’t take long to rebuild but common sense says it will.

No program should take years to rebuild with the portal
This isn't the 80s or even a decade ago--coaches get 2 years in most cases.

 

[WVilleLion23]

No program should take years to rebuild with the portal
This isn't the 80s or even a decade ago--coaches get 2 years in most cases.

Only 2 yrs? Folks with that mindset are the problem.

 

[donaldfair71]

You neglected to point out Joe won two national championships and the case could be made for 3 more. So there's that. JF was never close to JP!

Winning national championships would have made coach Franklin above average too.

It’s not a straw man argument, it’s applies to the discussion about Franklin. He gets criticized for being loyal to his guys, but all coaches are and that goes back to Paterno, Bryant, and all the others.

If you’re looking for a blind Paterno lover, you’ll have to look at someone else.

I can’t judge blanket “this guy should have played over that guy” arguments without the specifics. I know we had 3 years of Koa Farmer and I know that at no point in either person’s career was he better than Micah Parsons.

 

[KingLando]

Only 2 yrs? Folks with that mindset are the problem.

That's the reality--not my reality.
With the portal, results are expected immediately. See what Cignetti, Smart and Lanning did.

 

[WVilleLion23]

That's the reality--not my reality.
With the portal, results are expected immediately. See what Cignetti, Smart and Lanning did.

Yes, and probably a combo of skill, good luck, etc., etc. That mindset is going to bite a lot of schools when they don’t give it 3-5 years.

 

[KingLando]

Yes, and probably a combo of skill, good luck, etc., etc. That mindset is going to bite a lot of schools when they don’t give it 3-5 years.

Smaller schools...yes

 

[Moogy]

I am looking at the numbers and I am not seeing top 7/8. Certainly nothing along the lines of "top 8 for a decade". He has 4 years of being unranked, and if you assign a ranking of 25 for each of those seasons, his average is around 15. That is being very generous.

Now do the other programs.

 

[Ludd]

Now do the other programs.

His arguments work much better in a bubble.

 

[BobPSU92]

His arguments work much better in a bubble.

Boy!

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Now do the other programs.

What did you say?

 

[Catch1lion]

Losing more 50/50s than even possible. No breaks.