That would imply that the administration wants to win a national championship.
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8-5
9-4
8-5
Louisville's record their 3 seasons with Lamar Jackson starting.
8-6
8-5
Wyoming with Josh Allen starting
7-6
5-7
Texas Tech with Patrick Mahomes starting
12-1 (CFP)
11-2
10-2
Notre Dame with Ian Book starting.
14-1 (Champs)
15-0 (Champs)
UGA with Stetson Bennett starting
There's just no correlation. Too many other factors.
This ^^^
Let’s not start counting money that may not come to fruition.
Of course. But having a multidimensional QB sure does make it harder for the defense. Your also taking W/L records by TEAMS that may or may not have had much other talent besides QB. On the other hand, I contend that UGA did not win because of Stetson Bennett.
Anyone who's been holding out money since Joe died should have absolutely no influence on this process.
Agreed. And Franklin ran offenses that required it, making the commitment to Drew and Clifford even more puzzling. Just tired of this narrative that we lose because we aren't churning out Lamar and Josh Allen esque QBs every cycle.
Lots of names being thrown around. I say, don’t force it. If Kraft can’t get his man, don’t hire anyone. Put the program on pause until you can get who you want, however long it takes.
True. You just need someone who can run when they have to. Move the sticks etc. Clifford ran a fair amount when he first got the starting job, then it felt like they pulled him back from doing that because the depth behind him wasn’t good.
Well just hire Brown and maybe he will bring Robinson with him. I do know that Robinson was never coming here so long as Franklin was here.
I hear James Franklin is available.
Yeah not my pick either but in his defense he did lose the QB that made them go and there is no one behind that starter.
If Kraft is actually after Ruhle (and I suspect he is) he should be fired yesterday.
Ironically this was the the complete checklist for the Penn State basketball head coaching job from 1983 to 2023Rhule checks all the boxes.
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Almost every school you named has had QBs do more meaningful things in the NFL. Your definition of meaningful apparently is different from mine. For example, you didn't mention Justin Fields who has started games in multiple seasons for multiple teams. Is he a top NFL QB? No. But he's seen far more meaningful action and has done substantially more than any PSU NFL QB in 20 years. Who was the last PSU QB to get an NFL start? Kerry Collins?
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Matt McGloin started a game or two for the Raiders.
I have no inside info and hope I'm wrong, but it's quite clear that many refuse to let the Paterno era go. Whether those fans are the same ones with the money to make a difference in hiring decisions, buyouts, NIL, etc., I do not know.
Thanks, forgot about that. The point is the same however, almost all schools the prior poster named have had a QB do more in the NFL than every PSU QB combined in the past 20-30 years.
Joe Paterno once said to wealthy alumni something like the following: ”We want your dollars, not your two cents”.
I love Penn State versions of conspiracy theories.
McSorley started some games for Arizona a few years ago. McGloin got starts.
Fields has started for absolutely god awful teams (I live in Chicago) and is about to get benched by the terrible Jets. Starting just seems like a low bar for meaningful. I get that starting is hard. So is getting drafted.
With that in mind. Kerry Collins has more starts/yards/completions/touchdowns than every Ohio State QB that's ever been drafted, combined.
Since the 2005 season Collins has better stats than Fields.
Both have 50 starts
Collins has 1 playoff start. Fields none.
Collins has 963 completions. Fields 770
Collins 55 TDs. Fields 49.
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Let's just accept the fact that We Are not a QB factory but have existed near the top of the food chain since Joe became the HC and won two NC's. We don't have to be churning out NFL QB's to win NC's.
Do we have to churn out NFL QB's? I mean, MRob was nice, as was Trace.
No lots of big games have been won without a first round draft pick as the field general.
No program is a modern qb factory. Oklahoma was, but not under the current staff.
Closest thing might be Oregon, but Lanning has never gotten a hs recruit drafted. All of his starters have been transfers.
And is the best available coach out there.
Guy has no college coaching experience plus fired at his last two NFL jobs. I know he had a Super Bowl but hard pass.
Total BS, but everyone is allowed their opinion.
Franklin is gone, you gonna keep bitching until he is rehired by PS? Probably a long wait.
No, I’m actually going to ***** about the less than stellar person they hire instead because it’s likely going to go that way.
if someone like Urban or anyone that is available now such as him wouldn't they announce it so they can start recruiting?
He has been there since the 2016 season and has had a few opportunities to leave. I am not sure how good those opportunities have been in terms of a top ten job like ours. I am encouraged that he is from Ohio and he seems to bring an element of toughness and grit that I think we have lacked under Franklin.
It could take a lot to pry him out of Ames. He and his family are settled there and the school likes him as evidenced by the recent contract extension. He has security in Ames.
I agree that he would be a good hire. My concern and admittedly I have not researched this aspect but how successful has he been developing QBs and a good or innovative offense? That is a kind of difficult to assess because he has lacked the talent that we have had. Also wondering how strong of a recruiter he is although that facet has changed with the NIL era. However, as a new coach in a new area of the country you will need to sell yourself, your vision, the university, the program, etc.