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PSUSignore

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Round 1- Dec 19-20
Round 2- Jan 1
Portal- Jan 2-16
‘High School Sign On Period’ doesn’t matter anymore
The portal opens for 30 days for that team whenever a coach leaves
Correction, a new rule changed it to the portal opening for schools when a new permanent, non interim, coach is named. This was enacted about one week before we fired Franklin.
 

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I would be very interested in hearing your compelling reasons why DeBoer would make such a severe downgrade in position.
Rumor is Deboer and Bama haven't been a great fit together, which is driving some speculation he may consider leaving. It's tough being the next coach after the legendary coach. IIRC, it's the 2nd coach after the legendary coach that tends to have more success in those situations.
 

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If CJF gets a new job immediately his buyout drops to basically zero. If so, a $15M buyout for Rhule wouldn't be a problem should PSU still want him.
It would be incredibly effing stupid to pay a $15 mil buyout for Rhule. We would be the laughing stocks of college football.
 
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I'd be happy with Brohm, if that happens. I have zero insight, but think it's possibly someone that hasn't been discussed here yet. We have no idea who all Kraft has spoken with.
 
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It would be incredibly effing stupid to pay a $15 mil buyout for Rhule. We would be the laughing stocks of college football.
I'm not saying he's the next coach, but if PSU wants him I doubt $15M stands in their way, especially with Franklin's buyout likely to be next to nothing.
 

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From many sources the fit is not great. He is from South Dakota and not a good old southern boy. If you think that does not matter in Alabama, think again. Now, if he wins like Saban did, they will build him a statue next to Saban and Bear, but if he falters again this year, the pitchforks will be out. Having said that, he is on track to play for the SEC championship and a CFP playoff berth, so I do not think this is realistic

I agree it would be a massive downgrade for him, but getting out of Alabama may be appealing.
Why would it be a massive downgrade?
Bama has more recent success, of course, but tougher to win, fans way more demanding (ask Bill Curry) and not a great place to live.
If we are willing to pay him more and open the NIL checkbook, not sure why its a massive downgrade.
 

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It would be incredibly effing stupid to pay a $15 mil buyout for Rhule. We would be the laughing stocks of college football.
The top ones (power 4) we're not hearing much about would be the most likely ones at this point like Elko Brohm Drinkwitz Key Diaz Lea even Campbell. The flavor of the week Hartline? no.

However, it has been reported that Meyer is interested in the job. Make of that what you will. Does he know and like any coeds at PS?
 
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Pat S and Tulane getting boat raced by 3-4 UTSA, 31-12 at half.
He’s obviously taking a dive to miss any late season games and increase the chance to move to Boalsburg
 
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Zone-Blitz

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Interesting tidbit from espn regarding Elko:

also, Sean Spencer is the defensive line coach and Collin Klein is the offensive coordinator. I believe Franklin interviewed Klein for PSU offensive coordinator a few years ago

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At First I agreed with your thought process. Then I got to thinking.....this move wasn't made because of what happend. It happened before and each time Franklin pulled the team back the next year and we didn't suck again. He proved he could do that. This move was made because Kraft thought he could do better at that leadership position for the University. So I stick to my "you don't fire JF' for Matt Campbell.
Don’t discount the very real possibility that the big boosters were closing their wallets on James. Money talks.
 

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I was just talking with a Coworker who is a Michigan fan about Elko and A&M. He said that Elko would be a fool to leave A&M now but I countered that A&M is and will always be #2 in their own state to UT. Regardless of the Booster $$, PSU is more likely to win a Natty over A&M.

My contention, it's hard to sell kids on National Championships when they don't even think you're the best program in the state.
 

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I was just talking with a Coworker who is a Michigan fan about Elko and A&M. He said that Elko would be a fool to leave A&M now but I countered that A&M is and will always be #2 in their own state to UT. Regardless of the Booster $$, PSU is more likely to win a Natty over A&M.

My contention, it's hard to sell kids on National Championships when they don't even think you're the best program in the state.
The only possible shot with Elko is his ties to the NE and whether or not he or his family want badly to come home. With the team he has going this year I think the odds are slim to none.
 

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None. It is a fantasy.
When Elko was asked about it in a press conference, he never said no he just gave that goofy off the cuff comment about lacking brain space. I think he was actually surprised by the question. But I too think that one is a pretty big reach.
 

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Franklin to LSU as AD

Pushed out by the Governor of the state who said some very unflattering things about that AD. LSU is currently without a president and the Governor is running the show.
 
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I'd be happy with Brohm, if that happens. I have zero insight, but think it's possibly someone that hasn't been discussed here yet. We have no idea who all Kraft has spoken with.
IMO Brohm has to be at the top or 1A with Elko who I doubt they can land. But whoever it ends up being they wanted a coach in here by Thanksgiving is that possible with any coach who is in contention for a possible playoff spot.
 
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From many sources the fit is not great. He is from South Dakota and not a good old southern boy. If you think that does not matter in Alabama, think again. Now, if he wins like Saban did, they will build him a statue next to Saban and Bear, but if he falters again this year, the pitchforks will be out. Having said that, he is on track to play for the SEC championship and a CFP playoff berth, so I do not think this is realistic

I agree it would be a massive downgrade for him, but getting out of Alabama may be appealing.
I think he‘s one of the top coaches in CFB, but If he can’t make the playoffs at Bama it’s hard to imagine he could win more here.
 

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Not that he was a board favorite, but more on Kelly being a total Richard:
“Make an appointment.”

In one of the more striking anecdotes, a staffer told The Athletic that Kelly would not even talk to a recruit, even though the staffer was right next to him with the recruit on the phone.

“At one point, I brought my phone over to him and said, ‘Coach, I need you to talk to this kid.’ He goes, ‘Make an appointment.’ I said, ‘An appointment? I got him on the phone right now. What are you talking about?’”

Kelly’s inability to connect with players became a weapon other schools “would use against us” when recruiting players, a staffer told us. “‘He’ll never talk to you guys. He doesn’t even know the players’ names.’”
 

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Why would it be a massive downgrade?
Bama has more recent success, of course, but tougher to win, fans way more demanding (ask Bill Curry) and not a great place to live.
If we are willing to pay him more and open the NIL checkbook, not sure why its a massive downgrade.
1. As you said much greater recent success.
2, Much, much easier talent acquisition. Bama recruits itself. Penn State does not.
3, Tougher to win is debatable. SEC play is not all that of late..
4. Fans are absolutely not more demanding, ask Franklin, and Penn State is a complete dumpster fire that he will have to fix before becoming competitive.
5. The culture fit and location is surely not my cup of tea, but honestly neither was State College when I was there for grad work. Winter sucked.
6. Resources should be comparable.

Main question is why? Its not that he is hurting for cash. He is flush. So, the decision will be made on different grounds.
 

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The only possible shot with Elko is his ties to the NE and whether or not he or his family want badly to come home. With the team he has going this year I think the odds are slim to none.
That is the wildcard. If his wife and two kids (his oldest plays baseball for Richmond) are unhappy in the south it may make sense to him. Not on football grounds, however.
 
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I was just talking with a Coworker who is a Michigan fan about Elko and A&M. He said that Elko would be a fool to leave A&M now but I countered that A&M is and will always be #2 in their own state to UT. Regardless of the Booster $$, PSU is more likely to win a Natty over A&M.

My contention, it's hard to sell kids on National Championships when they don't even think you're the best program in the state.
A&M is more likely than PSU to win a natty. Don’t fool yourself thinking otherwise.
 

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Kraft should just hire himself. He played football at iu, so he should be able to coach it. Plus, being your own boss has its advantages. He wouldn’t have to go around himself to ask for an extension.
 
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Kraft should just hire himself. He played football at iu, so he should be able to coach it. Plus, being your own boss has its advantages. He wouldn’t have to go around himself to ask for an extension.
I'd rather he fire himself if he can't make that "home run" hire
 
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PSU87

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1. As you said much greater recent success.
2, Much, much easier talent acquisition. Bama recruits itself. Penn State does not.
3, Tougher to win is debatable. SEC play is not all that of late..
4. Fans are absolutely not more demanding, ask Franklin, and Penn State is a complete dumpster fire that he will have to fix before becoming competitive.
5. The culture fit and location is surely not my cup of tea, but honestly neither was State College when I was there for grad work. Winter sucked.
6. Resources should be comparable.

Main question is why? Its not that he is hurting for cash. He is flush. So, the decision will be made on different grounds.
3- No, no a million times no. I dated a girl from Birmingham. The whole freakin state shuts down for the Iron Bowl. Bill Curry had a brick thrown through his window.... for going 9-2. Do you honestly think Franklin lasts 12 years at Bama with one conference championship? You're delusional if you believe Franklin doesn't get canned at Bama after the 2020 and 2021 seasons.

Ask Franklin? I don't need to ask Franklin. The fans turned on him when he turned in the biggest $hitshow they've seen in a really long time. Bama would have canned him long before that.