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Did I say he was interviewed by Kraft? He will not be interviewed again this go around.
This thing has taken more twists and turns than a little. Kraft's people have been doing a fantastic job of chumming the waters to keep people misdirected and they have plenty of people knowingly facilitating all the misdirection.
I figure Kraft is well into his D-list by now. nardoozie, mel tucker, doug graber, etc.
Ok, is that a foolish assumption on my part that the AD is the only person interviewing o new head football coach? You said he was interviewed. If not Kraft then by whom?
You have a bit of an uppity jackass tone to your last two posts... Is that really necessary?
I am good with any of the 3...
Given both are SEC schools, and pressure cooker jobs to boot, I could see where DeBoer especially would be interested in moving north. I could see Elko doing it if his family wants it - I think TAMU is as much a pressure cooker as Bama.
Key seemed to shut down rumors of his leaving GT during a presser last week. Of course, that could all the coach-speak. I'd be pleased with any of those three - in this order: DeBoer, Elko, Key.
It's my question as well. Neeli and the BOT wouldn't be interviewing or involved yet. Neeli will only be involved at the end with finances being discussed. I can't see some junior level H.R. or assistant AD person doing the interview asking him why he feels he is a good candidate for the position. Not alumni or boosters will be involved so who exactly is doing the interviewing?
That’s what everyone says but there are also some who say this was a make or break year before it started. There’s also the crowd that wanted him gone because he couldn’t beat OSU or Michigan. So, which is it? And why would you then hire Diaz and be content with 10 wins as someone else said?
Doug GraberI figure Kraft is well into his D-list by now. nardoozie, mel tucker, doug graber, etc.
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When he’s coaching for us, perhaps he’ll have us take a knee against rutgres.
There are interviews that have taken place that aren't in person interviews and probably not all done by Kraft. I mistook your tone so sorry for the jackass response.
Pretty much every coach at any major program is a type A personality with at least a little bit of egomaniac in them. The job and that level of competition is going to attract such personalities.
LOL, it's a troll account. Fake news from such a source would be a true story.
Every candidate that's been named, aside from Freeman, Elko and Deboer is a 50/50 hire, it's just something PSU has to deal with now. This was always the argument against firing a coach that typically won 9-10 games a season. The risk of doing so didn't outweigh the reward once you factor in the likelihood of finding a guy that would be better. None of the surefire homerun coaches - Day, Smart, Saban - were ever a possibility to hire and the next tier who we have apparently reached out to will be difficult to pry away from their current programs. That leaves you with a pool of candidates that all have risks, the most common one being that they have the same flaw as Franklin... they struggle as an underdog against top opponents.
Does Kraft want a high ceiling, or high floor, from his next hire? We just fired a guy with a high floor, so the assumption is he would want a high ceiling guy. The flipside is all of the high ceiling guys are also have a low floor, except for those 3-4 premium guys that PSU has zero chance of hiring.
Jay?I figure Kraft is well into his D-list by now. nardoozie, mel tucker, doug graber, etc.
I don’t know anything beyond what I see. Well, I suppose what I read in here as well. I know this team looked way, way, way, off through the ridiculously easy out of conference schedule. Not much better since. That tells me looking for a ten win coach was not something to expect anymore from Franklin. He was done.
We will never learn that information, it will be kept private. The next coach might not even be willing to make such a commitment until their current season is over, which is what makes this difficult given the big swing candidates and them all being poised for a playoff run. There might be some wink wink type agreements with an agent or something, who knows. The stupidity of the CFB calendar creates this nonsense and now puts these coaches and ADs in an impossible situation.
The analysis to be done on guys like Key, Drinkwitz and Lea are how are they different/better than what Franklin was in 2014? So are they showing something more than what Franklin showed while at Vandy. Franklin got hired for this miraculous turnaround at Vandy and therefore it was..."Wow, he did that at Vandy well he is going to kill it here." Are these three the same or are there differences we can see in studying their teams and their performances that may give us some insight to say they are doing better things than what Franklin did?
The other thing is get a guy in who can develop an offensive line and a power game on both sides of the ball. I like Key for that. By the way, does Haynes King have any eligibility left?
I looked up King and he turns 25 in early January. Wow. Scratch that hope off that he would come with Key if that was the new coach.
All of the above? My guess (no inside info) is that Kraft wasn't thrilled with losing the top 2 games each year, but could live with it. However 2025 likely came with added pressure, either from Kraft and/or boosters, because of the injection of NIL money to keep this year's roster intact and the looming stadium renovation that will be a heavy reliance on selling out high margin premium luxury seating to generate revenue. Assuming reports of Franklin trying for an extension are true, Kraft may have told him let's see how 2025 plays out given the returning team we had in place, putting more pressure on 2025 being a make or break year. Then if Franklin went behind Kraft's back for the extension that leash probably got a bit shorter. Sprinkle in a loss to Oregon, and Kraft is now paying close attention because of all of the above and we still end up with the same old big game result, only this time it was a game were most of the intangibles favored PSU: more experienced roster, home game, Oregon travelling 3 time zones, night game, PSU finally favored, Oregon new starting QB, etc. Add in a loss to UCLA where a first time OC had 3 days to prepare and outcoached the PSU staff, a team that looked like they gave up, and yet another example of Franklin letting a big game lead to multiple losses, and now Kraft might be considering taking action. Next you get one of the most toxic home losses ever for PSU against a Big 10 bottom-dweller and again a team that looked like they gave up. Now you've forced Kraft to act immediately rather than waiting any further. Perhaps after UCLA Kraft decided it was time to move on from Franklin, but the NW game accelerated the plan.
This is all speculation on my part, but seems realistic.
He at least we are not UF which “invested” twice the NIL money and was still falling short. Lol
That all seems reasonable. The core of the issue was Franklin consistently stunk to high heaven in winning big games. As you suggest, this had to have stuck in the craw of Krafty, big money boosters and of course many fans. For 2025, all chips were moved to the center of the table for a big run this year and then he fails miserably. Same bad movie plays out vs Oregon, he should have won it but blows it @ home in front of a huge, supportive WO crowd. The team looks atrocious on offense for 3 quarters like they didn't even have a game plan. One of his worst big game losses. The fan base all turned on him by the time the NW loss rolled around or probably the UCLA loss except some of his family members that frequent this board. It was so toxic and embarrassing that something had to be done ASAP.
We are doing our part on the board here to help with misdirection.
When Kraft gets down to the F list. Franklin comes up again.I figure Kraft is well into his D-list by now. nardoozie, mel tucker, doug graber, etc.
And how did Diaz do against OSU and Michigan when he was at PSU? And if people are going to say that wasn’t his fault it was Franklin’s, then the wins weren’t because of Diaz either so he really accomplished nothing while he was here, so why would we want to hire him?
And it even took them several weeks.
I just can't imagine what it would be like now if he was still here. Every talk show would be an hour of laughing about how PSU can't afford to pay him to leave. Every game would be 3 hours of a half empty stadium booing, throwing stuff, probably lining up outside after the game to heckle him. All the while, the team would be getting trounced every week. At least now with it over with, they have shown some fight in these last few games.
Your argument is based on nothing by saying they would get trounced every week. They were one stop away from winning every game he lost this season…that’s hardly getting trounced. They got trounced against OSU and Franklin wasn’t there.
You know who won that award in 2023? Andy Kotelnicki.
I expect him to be a primary target for UF & Auburn.
I challenge you to provide the posts of mine complaining about Franklin’s success in any of the seasons from ‘22-‘24.