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While I see your point and its a very valid take, I can't get there without knowing what was going on inside the locker room/ program. It very well may be cut and dry like you posted or there may be other factors that came to play and forced hands.
LOL so if Hartline interviewed with PSU and USF ..so either Kraft or Hartline said no. Question if Hartline said no and said yes to USF something is very wrong here and by the way this puts to bed 'about any coaches waiting for playoffs to finish' before they announce
Totally insane we didn't take a shot at one of these coordinators.
I'm guessing that Kraft passed, just based off the reports that he didn't like Will Stein for the job because he was to raw. Just assuming this though.
Did we really want Hartline? He doesn't seem to be a cultural fit at PSU with the DWI's and do we want a guy with all those tats representing the school?
I’ve said before, I never believed Sitake was a serious consideration. Never passed the sniff test, especially considering I doubt he ever even interviewed. If he got a raise because his agent used PSU as leverage, good for him.
The issue isn’t whether Franklin should have been fired but how Kraft is handling or mishandling finding a replacement.
At this point a valid question may be whether Kraft really can find anyone to coach the team.
Obviously afraid to roll the dice on a coordinator but that may wind up costing him his job. This search is depressing. Still hoping he can pull a rabbit out of the hat but very doubtful. Benapudi should have insisted on a search firm to assist Kraft and company.
With Hartline to USF and Sitake staying at BYU I can't help but wonder if we still have a big fish on the line. Someone who is still in the conference championship games. Someone who may be playing in the CFPs. Why would Hartline choose to coach at USF if Penn State really wanted him, since Penn State would probably have a bigger NIL pot and offer him a better salary? I can't believe that Kraft would unexpectantly fire Franklin so early in the season, if he hadn't already been talking to someone. It would just be weird. Hate that the new coach isn't in place for the beginning of signing day, but if we do get a big name coach to come the portal will compensate for losing some good high school players. I'm going to hope for the best, until I have a reason to cry.
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Chesney to UCLA, Hartline to USF, nobody to PSU. WTF, I'm still going to the stadium anyway. Maybe it won't cost out the *** for parking anymore if it's just a deserted valley.
Have to go with Brohm…he can bring a lot of talent from Louisville. I like Diaz but he doesn’t have as much talent to bring as Brohm does.
Ok I'll bite the list seems to be dwindling day by day. The notion that coaches are too raw by Kraft's definition is probably 99% of the coaches out there the "non raw" coaches all got reupped or signed with other teams ...its staggering how this was played by Kraft from start to apparently never ending finish. the hits just keep on coming.
This will be Kraft next year when he walks into the locker room with no players or coaches:
In a world of dumb rationalizations put forward by the "insiders" and the head-in-the-sand gangs, that one was maybe the dumbest.
I don’t care if the guy has a nose ring and Hells Angels tattooed across his back at this point as long as he can do the freaking job.
Yep. Just asked that of Tengwall myself. because it would have been hard to believe LT would stake such a wrong claim (he is generally pretty solid on his "stuff")
I wouldn't say so, he would be crazy to not ask and kick the tires.
you are missing one thing. you are assuming Kraft had a plan or at least logically should have had one. If Kraft is just incompetent well ... if its a duck
Not going to lie - I thought Hartline made the most sense based on how things are unfolding.
Sitake can recruit a lot of those tough Tongon and Hawaiian players as well as areas from west coast and mountain states players. If Pat could keep Terry as part of the organization he can recruit Pa. quite well. Next year will be tough either way. Cignetti bringing 30 highly experienced players from JMU iwas a big deal but Indy will get their asses handed to them when they are all gone next year. Indy will struggle to get top talent next year going against B10 recruiters. A flash in the pan 1 year great Indy team will struggle next season. Saban liked Daboll for our coach hard to say how that would work out.
I'd say there is no chance this is the case. He's just butchered it.
Totally understand that, my only point on the timing was not knowing if there was some other factor(s) that forced the decision. Not defending Kraft or the process, just wondering if there were other internal factors that forced the decision to happen when it did, but at this point its irrelevant either way.
Currently, Penn State looks like a guy who is a 6, at best ... who is somehow married to a pretty good-looking, smart woman with some flaws. Meanwhile, he's constantly telling his buddies he deserves a 10. He points to the chick he dated back in high school, who was a smoke show (in his mind, at least ... by the time she graduated, she was a bit of a mess, and then things got worse).
So, he divorces his wife, she quickly gets remarried to a decent guy, and we're at the bar every night trying to pick up women, and they're all shooting us down ... even the ugly and/or dumb ones want nothing to do with us. We're scrambling at last call every night, and they're all using our creepy attempts to pick them up to be saved by another guy swooping in to save them.
Congrats, guys ... you deservebetter this.
So, he divorces his wife, she quickly gets remarried to a decent guy, and we're at the bar every night trying to pick up women, and they're all shooting us down ... even the ugly and/or dumb ones want nothing to do with us. We're scrambling at last call every night, and they're all using our creepy attempts to pick them up to be saved by another guy swooping in to save them.
Congrats, guys ... you deserve
yeah all that southern speed and WR heaven in the 7 on 7 that is florida nowdaysWell.....Florida certainly is more attractive the Pa.
And the point is what? Sexton out to screw Penn State out of spite? Doubtful, but if so, does Sexton represent every competent coach on the planet? Stop the BS.
I thought there was a good chance of this happening. He's left to pulling names out of a hat now. He wont be able to spin it that "this is the guy we wanted all along".