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Bengals gonna get embarrassed by a below average team. They have no wide outs that run faster than 4.7 and we want to sit in a loose zone and allow underneath passes AND the run.
Of course a team that can't do **** on offense at home against the Raiders marches down the field unopposed on first two drives.
Knew this was going to happen. Didn't have a doubt in my mind that the Pats would come out on fire after the media frenzy they've dealt with this week.
At some point it has to be accepted that Marvin Lewis is a good coach but has absolutely no ability to prepare his team for the big game. This is systemic.
They don't look prepared but when your quarterback looks scared and misses open guys it sure makes it tough.
Make no mistake, Pats are definitely not a below average team. I do think they have taken a step backwards, and I don't see them ever coming back from it with Brady's age and the offensive weapons they have (or lack there of).
My buddy is a Pat's fan, and he nailed it: The media was mostly overblown...Belicheck, Brady, and the fans were pissed.. they will come out hot with a 1-2 punch. Things have settled down since then, but I'm not sure they can come back.
I thought this would have been a sound Bengals victory...
My buddy is a Pat's fan, and he nailed it: The media was mostly overblown...Belicheck, Brady, and the fans were pissed.. they will come out hot with a 1-2 punch. Things have settled down since then, but I'm not sure they can come back.
I thought this would have been a sound Bengals victory...
The media was overblown? They've looked like crap against a joke schedule. It's not like the have the 4th worst offense against a gauntlet. It's come against multiple teams in the bottom 10 of defensive efficiency.
Yes DMiller. Since the Titans were founded they've averaged making the playoffs every 2-3 yrs. Let's just get this out of the way, Munchak was a bad HC. But they've hired a guy has a very proven offensive mind and took a team recently to a SB as a HC. The Titans aren't good this yr, but they are completely shifting defensive scheme and personnel. And they don't have a QB. It's way premature to call this current coaching venture a failure.
My goodness you are a Kentucky fan. You should appreciate what the Titans have won.
My goodness you are a Kentucky fan. You should appreciate what the Titans have won.
The Pats ALWAYS play to the level of their competition, looking great against good teams and looking terrible against bad teams. This is not a new development, it's been this way for a few years now.
A few bad games, despite being .500, shouldn't just erase the last 15 years of Belicheck/Brady. Yes, it was way overblown.
For reasons I don't know, The Pats just haven't been playing the style of play they are used to winning. Defense wasn't making the hits.. the play calling.. And it's still a little shaky today, but much better.
And let it be know, again, I hate the Pats. Regardless of what they do this season, the clock is ticking for Brady. He's 37 and the ride is coming to an end.
The Chefs aren't a bad team at home, especially when you go down like the Pats did. They simply got their asses kicked that game. IMO, this is more of the Pats being the Pats, which is a professional football team.
This post was edited on 10/5 11:01 PM by 2blue4u
This post was edited on 10/5 11:01 PM by 2blue4u
This is the Bengal, folks. This is the f@$!ing bengals. The team you've come to know can't even be remotely competitive when all eyes are on them.
Just atrocious. Just lose the next 12 damn games so we don't even have witness another stand alone embarrassment.
Just atrocious. Just lose the next 12 damn games so we don't even have witness another stand alone embarrassment.
Somebody needs to remind the bengals the bye was last week. This game counts even though they decided not to play. This is pathetic now I know what it's like being a cubs fan minus the pride.
This is possibly the most ignorant NFL post I've ever read. Any team in the league was going to get beaten by the Pats tonight. I predicted it Monday night when they were getting hammered by the Chiefs. As for their primetime record, the Bengals have almost always played a team that was better than them in those primetime games. Tonight they met a Pats team that was going to destroy any team they played. It happens. The Bengals will be just fine.
Bingo. Diamond was the last executive this team had with a real knack for the game. Reinfeldt was an absolute joke, a lazy yes-man to the old man with zero drive to actually make the team better. Webster just isn't a very good surveyor of talent or personnel decision making. Scouting is pathetic and player development is worse. Just a revolving door of retreads, both players and coaches. Its a damn shame We're in week 5 and already the majority of Titans fans are talking about the draft. It was week 8 last year.
Sorry, but I don't think anyone is jealous of the position the Titans are in right now.
Welcome to the world of bengals fans, before the last 3 years we looked forward to the draft in week 2.
You must be about 11 or 12 years old, if you think that way. Other than the decade immediately following Paul Brown's death, the Bengals have been a pretty good franchise. Not great obviously, but far from bad. I'm just going to assume you're really really young.
I have absolutely no faith in Lewis. He is not capable of getting them prepared to play when the bright lights are shining. You can make excuses for them if you want. This franchise did tonight what it's always done. Until they prove me wrong, this team nor this franchise gives me no hope of ever winning a SB.
I have been a fan over 40 years. This is what they do. Fold. When everyone is watching. Lewis is not a big game coach. Just doesn't have it.
Yes if you are content with mediocrity. How many Super Bowl wins do we have again? Hell when was the last time we won a playoff game? I know what your saying blue, but this is a sad cold fact.
Cincinnati hasn't won a playoff game since Jan. 6, 1991. The 22 seasons without a postseason victory is the longest drought in the NFL (the Lions have gone 21 seasons without one).
That's a bitter pill to swallow, it's sad, I'm 33 and I may never see a bengals Super Bow appearance or even a playoff win in my lifetime.
Cincinnati hasn't won a playoff game since Jan. 6, 1991. The 22 seasons without a postseason victory is the longest drought in the NFL (the Lions have gone 21 seasons without one).
That's a bitter pill to swallow, it's sad, I'm 33 and I may never see a bengals Super Bow appearance or even a playoff win in my lifetime.
The Jaguars, Panthers, and Texans weren't even in the league when the Bengals last won a playoff game. They have all won multiple playoff games since then. It used to really bother me, now it's just meh. I don't think they will ever win a SB. Don't really think they will win a play off game much either.
I don't get tore up like I used too. I am not the least bit shocked they crumbled like a graham cracker crust tonight. They are the "all talk" all time team.
I don't get tore up like I used too. I am not the least bit shocked they crumbled like a graham cracker crust tonight. They are the "all talk" all time team.
Bengals' fans are the worst. This is the first bad game they have had all year and they give up like it's nothing. Cincinnati fans wait for something to go wrong so they can scream "I told you so." New England is certainly not a bad team. Many predicted them to go to the Super Bowl this year. The Bengals have 3 straight playoff appearances and 4 of the last 5. Somewhere along those lines they had to win a big game or 2. They already beat Baltimore on the road in week 1. Guess that wasn't a big game.
The Bengals have struggled in primetime games, no doubt. However, most of them are on the road. When was the last Sunday night game in Cincinnati? I can't remember. They beat Pittsburgh by 10 at home on Monday Night last year. Lost 30-20 on Sunday Night in Pittsburgh. Lost week 1 on Monday night 44-13 in 2012 at Baltimore. Other than tonight and last year in Pittsburgh I don't remember any Sunday Night games. The playoff losses are bad but the first 2 they got beat by a better team in Houston. Losing to San Diego was a bad loss, no doubt. However, people perpetuate the stereotype that they can't win big games. They've gone 32-16 with Andy Dalton as a starter. Not awful. They've had 4 primetime games. 1 at home and 3 on the road. 1-3. The three losses @Pittsburgh, @Baltimore, and @New England. You can criticize them for not winning these big games but they haven't had a ton of chances in the regular season. Not many teams are going into Pittsburgh, Baltimore or New England and getting a win in a primetime game. The Bengals will be fine.
The Bengals have struggled in primetime games, no doubt. However, most of them are on the road. When was the last Sunday night game in Cincinnati? I can't remember. They beat Pittsburgh by 10 at home on Monday Night last year. Lost 30-20 on Sunday Night in Pittsburgh. Lost week 1 on Monday night 44-13 in 2012 at Baltimore. Other than tonight and last year in Pittsburgh I don't remember any Sunday Night games. The playoff losses are bad but the first 2 they got beat by a better team in Houston. Losing to San Diego was a bad loss, no doubt. However, people perpetuate the stereotype that they can't win big games. They've gone 32-16 with Andy Dalton as a starter. Not awful. They've had 4 primetime games. 1 at home and 3 on the road. 1-3. The three losses @Pittsburgh, @Baltimore, and @New England. You can criticize them for not winning these big games but they haven't had a ton of chances in the regular season. Not many teams are going into Pittsburgh, Baltimore or New England and getting a win in a primetime game. The Bengals will be fine.
Excuses bud. Good teams, championship teams, win big games no matter where or when they are played. Tell me when that has happened with the Bengals?
I expect it because it happens without fail. I'll say it again. Jaguars, Panthers, and Texans all have multiple playoff wins since the Bengals have any. It's always, "almost" or "could have" etc.
They've had chances to shut everybody up, me included, and they cant. Won't this year either and I truly hope I'm wrong, but I have complete faith that I'm not.
That's hilarious. If the Bengals weren't bad, then no one is. One of the worst franchises in the NFL and most Bengals fans will even acknowledge that.
You're just showing your ignorance, bro. They had one bad stretch, following PB's death. Otherwise they've been an above average franchise. Any Bengals fan with even the slightest knowledge of their history knows that. Find a topic you know something about, because you're clueless about this one.
The bengals defense is something to be worried about. The defense sucks without Burfect. Giving Geno a contract after his ACL was a mistake... Whose to say Michael Johnson and Dunlap weren't the reasons for Geno's success? F'n Robert Geathers is still on this team as a d end.. Peko is a terrible DT. Rey Maualuga blows.. He, let's draft some more corners that we don't need.
They may have rushed Atkins back from his injury. His ACL tear just happened 11 months ago. BTW they re-signed him before he got hurt. Michael Johnson was good in stripes but he's not doing too good with the Bucs.
They just don't have the depth at D-line that they had. Over the last two offseasons they've lost 3 DE's that played and contributed. Now its made even worseby Atkins not playing like himself and Hunt being dinged up. Plus Burfict is the heart and soul of that unit and may just be the best defensive player in the league not named JJ Watt.
Good job cherry-picking the worst decade in sports history, which isn't even relevant. But the Bengals haven't won a playoff game in 23 seasons. Franchises that didn't even exist then have won playoff games since then. It's the longest streak in the league, yet now they're "above average"? They have the 5th worse winning percentage of all time. They're under 500 since 2006. They have 5 winning seasons in the last 24 years. In recent years, they can't win a prime time game, they can't win a playoff game, etc.
This is above average? Do you even understand what that means? "Above average franchise"? That's absurd.
I'm 31. We were decent during my pre school days before I lived here. What have we done since 1990?
Over the last 3 or 4 years, the Bengals have been one of the best teams in the AFC.
But they also have a 2-8 record in primetime and playoff games over that same time frame. They shrink in the spotlight and they have to find a way to fix that.
There's also the fact that Dalton, who typically gets most of the blame when they play bad, had a pretty good game last night.
But they also have a 2-8 record in primetime and playoff games over that same time frame. They shrink in the spotlight and they have to find a way to fix that.
There's also the fact that Dalton, who typically gets most of the blame when they play bad, had a pretty good game last night.
You accuse me of cherry-picking when all I did was exclude the terrible stretch following PB's death, when there was a dark cloud hanging over the entire franchise, then you proceed to base your entire argument on years and time frames you conveniently cherry-picked.
Please support your argument with some sort of stats. The Bengals have 5 playoff wins in their history. Carolina has 6. Jacksonville, whose franchise has 30 years less than the Bengals and is considered one of the NFL's worst franchises has as many playoff wins as the Bengals do in history. They've only even been to the playoffs 12 times in history and have the worst playoff winning percentage in history. Paul Brown doesn't even have a winning record with the Bengals. They've not once won a road playoff game.
Yet, above average?
Yet, above average?
Really? What is the definition of average?
In 46 seasons, they've had 16 winning regular seasons, 23 losing, 7 .500.
By decade:
60s: 0-2-0
70's: 6-3-1
80s: 4-4-2
90s: 1-8-1
00s: 2-5-3
10s: 3-1-0
6 winning regular seasons in the last 24. Only twice in their history have they had 3 straight winning regular seasons (75-77, 11-13), but will certainly extend the recent one to 4 straight seasons.
All-time playoff record of 5-12. 4 of those wins came in two seasons.
Since the AFL/NFL merger, teams with 5 or less playoff wins: Detroit 1, Texans 2, KC 3, Cleveland 4, Tampa Bay 5, Jacksonville 5, Cincinnati 5, Cardinals 5,
I'd say the Bengals franchise would qualify for below average, and probably in the bottom 1/3 to 1/4. In the ebb and flow of things, they certainly are currently in the upper end of the league though.
Pretty disappointed with ya, Kel. There are numerous factors you ignore. It's all good. There are even Bengals fans who don't get it.
Please educate everyone on all of the statistics that show the Bengals are an above average franchise. I don't hate the Bengals, I somewhat root for them as I live here, but they're clearly one of the worst franchises in the NFL by any measure. I guess if you remove all their losing seasons then maybe they're above average.
If you remove the 10 seasons from the Bengals history, which by the way is completely ridiculous as it's ~20% of their entire history and should be considered and if you removed the worst 10 year period for any team it would make them look average. But for argument's sake, let's do that. They'd be 274-289, still below .500 (average).
Winning percentage .487 (up from .444, 27th in the NFL)
#20 Tennessee Titans .488
#21 Philadelphia Eagles .484
So they'd still be 20th overall in the NFL, well below average.
So in winning percentage, winning percentage when removing that 10 year period, playoff wins, super bowl wins, playoff winning percentage, and any every other single measure they're below average yet someone thinks that they're "above average"? Maybe if we remove all their bad seasons, they'd be above average?
If you remove the 10 seasons from the Bengals history, which by the way is completely ridiculous as it's ~20% of their entire history and should be considered and if you removed the worst 10 year period for any team it would make them look average. But for argument's sake, let's do that. They'd be 274-289, still below .500 (average).
Winning percentage .487 (up from .444, 27th in the NFL)
#20 Tennessee Titans .488
#21 Philadelphia Eagles .484
So they'd still be 20th overall in the NFL, well below average.
So in winning percentage, winning percentage when removing that 10 year period, playoff wins, super bowl wins, playoff winning percentage, and any every other single measure they're below average yet someone thinks that they're "above average"? Maybe if we remove all their bad seasons, they'd be above average?