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Funny that the guy who used to write about Bengal history for Bengals.com knows so very little about Bengals history.
Ignored what? Some cool uniforms? A catchy "Welcome to the Jungle" song?
I used straight up objective info, not subjective. In the NFL, it comes down to wins and losses. They are well below average there. Factoring in postseason, it is even worse.
Although the Titans originated when the Oilers moved, they are two different organizations. Much of the front office didn't remain.....and the ones that did left soon after. A few of the front office just didn't come with the move.....and the majority left during the 2 yrs when the team was known as the Tennessee Oilers.
The Titans are 133-111 (including the current season).....if you must include the Tennessee Oiler yrs then the record is 149-127.
The Titans avg 8-9 wins per completed season. With a percentage of .545
Have to say, those facts are right and sad. The Bengals have been a mostly bad franchise. I know because I have been a fan over 40 years and suffered through most of those awful seasons. It's hard to erase all of that from everyone(fans, rivals, media). Franchises have done it. Steelers are a prime example. They were horrid for decades. Fortunately for them, it happened during a time when the NFL was not what it is today.
Lewis is a good coach but he is a better evaluator of talent than coach. The Bengals need to find a guy that can get the team to the next level. Lewis deserves credit for turning the franchise around from being a doormat to a legitimate NFL team. However, after 11 seasons and no playoff victories, they have to make a change. If the Bengals are serious about being a winning franchise, this needs to be done IMO.
Lots of teams who were once winning a lot have went through bad periods of time. Packers, Giants, Bears, Colts, 49ers, etc. It happens. Now the Bengals have never been on this level, but they were decent before Paul Brown died. Mike Brown truly ruined it. Now he has reportedly loosen his grip and let others have more control. Now the next step has to be made and find the guy who can take them further.
This post was edited on 10/7 11:59 AM by Cawood86
SMH @ Terry
If you want to ignore Cincinnati's 10 worst years, then you also have to ignore the 10 worst years of every other team too. In which case the Bengals still come out at or near the bottom. And this is coming from a Bengals fan.
If you want to ignore Cincinnati's 10 worst years, then you also have to ignore the 10 worst years of every other team too. In which case the Bengals still come out at or near the bottom. And this is coming from a Bengals fan.
Umm, it's the same organization. You can pretend they aren't, but they 100% are. Just because the front office changed doesn't mean it's not the same franchise. Look at the historical records, heck even on the Titans' website. Their HOF has teams from both organizations. The only reason they changed their name is because the fans demanded it. And he owned the team until his death.
So two teams. Both teams have completely different home bases. Completely different stadiums and facilities. Completely different staffs and front offices. Different name, different mascot, different colors, different fanbases. The only thing common between the two were an owner and a temporary coaching staff..........these two teams are exactly the same? They didn't go through any changes at all? No transition into another entity?
Let's say you were the owner of a men's clothing store in Louisville named Vandalay Menswear. You employed John, Dave, Cindy, and Mary. You decide to close it down. You open a new store in Lexington called Men's Clothing and More......and you staff it with John (who worked for you in Louisville), Mark, James, and Jennifer. It's likely a similar entity, but it's different.
I'm not denying that they are linked, but they are not the same organization.
This post was edited on 10/7 7:12 PM by BlueRaider22
Same organization. Say whatever you want, but it's the same owner that moved the franchise and sports have always determined that they are the same organization. Not sure why you want to deny the past, but it's a fact. The NFL considers it that way and so do the Titans.
This ******** POS bengals team just isn't any good. It was evidenced by the fact that we were out gained in blowout wins that people just ignored. 7-9 here we come.
Why again does Mike Tomlin deserve to keep his job? The Steelers are one of the worst teams in the NFL. Entire staff needs to go.
Lewis is the most overrated mediocre coach ever. I can't wait for him to be gone which probably just a few short years.....
From the first week. I thought they might have a chance at the playoffs after beating the Panthers. But, they clearly don't. Gonna be a 3-4 year window of this I'm afraid.
That was a pitiful showing all around today by the bungles. Nutgent has gotta make kicks when they count. He's already missed more kicks than games played. The real Paul Gunther has showed up all with another pitiful defensive coordinated game as well. Lastly, dalton had to stop trying to make something out of nothing. He got lucky a few times throwing the ball while being tackled but he also threw 2 Ints that were pitiful.
Two out of three for the weekend is not bad (UK win, UL loss, and Bengals crap) but, I still expected a Bengals win. When will they ever turn the corner to become a legit contender again.
Man I can't believe the Likns let the Bills come back last week, we would be sitting pretty right now, instead we have one of the better defenses and struggle something awful on offense. I do like the Riddick kid over our other RB options, but the failure to get our #10 pick Ebron involved at all with Calvin out is alarming.
Still not sold on Caldwell as a coach right now.
Watched the great trade robbery preview thing on SC this morning, and can't figure how more trades aren't made by the week 6 deadline. There are clear playoff teams and clear non playoff teams, why no player movement?
Still not sold on Caldwell as a coach right now.
Watched the great trade robbery preview thing on SC this morning, and can't figure how more trades aren't made by the week 6 deadline. There are clear playoff teams and clear non playoff teams, why no player movement?
How bout' them Cowboys!!
Amazing what a great OLine does - takes the pressure off the QB, wears down the defense and let's your defense rest.
Murray might be an MVP candidate right now, but it's early in the year.
Amazing what a great OLine does - takes the pressure off the QB, wears down the defense and let's your defense rest.
Murray might be an MVP candidate right now, but it's early in the year.
After the Titans muffed the onside kick at the end of the game, I thought for sure the Jags were going to win. Nice block on the fg kick but they should have never been in that position to begin with. Clipboard Jesus has actually played quite well minus a few wild throws, but the o-line is a lethal combination of not good and stupid. Blidi Wreh Wilson played the game of his life, glad to see he's improving.
Mike nugent like every other ohio state player is flaming out. I don't understand how you can miss 5 field goals in 4 games and keep your job. Hell, the bungles got rid of golden graham after his stellar performance in the playoff game against Houston. There is no excuse for today, offense, defense and special teams all sucked.
While it's unfair to blame a kicker for a loss, or in this case a tie, Mike Nugent needs to be cut. He's 10/18 (.5556 percent) on the season. That's college-level accuracy or worse.
Granted, if Dalton doesn't throw a pick that took the Bengals out of scoring range that ended up being at minimum a 10-point swing, or if Andre Smith doesn't get flagged for holding on the TD run late in the fourth, or if, if, if, if .... the Bengals should've won. It's always the ifs with Cincy, but after three decades of this crap I'm used to it. (The historic parallels between that franchise and UK football lead me to believe I am a masochist when it comes to football.)
Granted, if Dalton doesn't throw a pick that took the Bengals out of scoring range that ended up being at minimum a 10-point swing, or if Andre Smith doesn't get flagged for holding on the TD run late in the fourth, or if, if, if, if .... the Bengals should've won. It's always the ifs with Cincy, but after three decades of this crap I'm used to it. (The historic parallels between that franchise and UK football lead me to believe I am a masochist when it comes to football.)
Never bud. I've done my time. 40 plus years. No more for me. Just tired of wasting my time. Lewis couldn't motivate sailors on leave to find a girl. He's soooooooo annoying. Have watched and waited enough.
You guys fight the good fight. I'm out. Been there and done that for way too many years. Lewis is stealing money and Brown is all too glad to let him apparently. Not giving them a penny or another second.
Sracastic question, but the answer is yes.Originally posted by Wildcat Willy:
Does this mean you will stop posting about them?
Always happens...Always.
Though I went to bed at halftime thinking it couldn't get any worse...then I woke up to hearing that Cruz is done for the year.
I think that, maybe, if the players didn't talk so much **** this past week, they'd have had a chance. It always amazes me how much their players/fans talk and it seems to bite them in the *** atleast once a year. They were 3-2, with those 3 wins being over garbage teams, and you're chirping about the Eagles, who they play on the road? Ok, I guess. I think more than a few Philly players were miffed over that, and it probably had a big effect on the game.
I do feel for Cruz though. Happened to a stand-up guy, who is very likeable. I want to see the Giants lose every game, but not because of injuries. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
Another week another pitiful showing what I have learned
Andy dalton sucks
Aj green is more important than the day walker to the offense
Our defense sucks
Hue Jackson and Gunther both suck
uks special team coach has a job waiting in cincinnati
Andy dalton sucks
Aj green is more important than the day walker to the offense
Our defense sucks
Hue Jackson and Gunther both suck
uks special team coach has a job waiting in cincinnati
All things considered I think Dalton has had an above-average season. The O-line has been awful and 3 of his top 4 targets are on the shelf with injuries.
Injuries happen, but sometimes a team gets so banged up that it takes its toll. Bengals now have lost 8 of 22 starters to injury, and i've not tried to tally the key reserves that are hurt (if there are any). Most of those 8 guys should be back soon, but right now thats a huge number.
Injuries happen, but sometimes a team gets so banged up that it takes its toll. Bengals now have lost 8 of 22 starters to injury, and i've not tried to tally the key reserves that are hurt (if there are any). Most of those 8 guys should be back soon, but right now thats a huge number.
At least the Bengals have injuries to blame. The Titans, minus Jake Locker who sucks anyway, haven't had too many injuries, they just suck. They let Colt McCoy walk all over them in the second half. Dumb penalties everywhere, terrible defensive schemes and a special teams game plan that can't do anything right, that's what you get. A bad team with very little upside and little to be excited about in the future.
I take that back, a little upside has been Avery Williamson. Had an INT today and was in on some big plays. Kid's worked his way into the starting lineup and has played extremely well.
I take that back, a little upside has been Avery Williamson. Had an INT today and was in on some big plays. Kid's worked his way into the starting lineup and has played extremely well.
Amazing how bad Tennessee fans make it out to be. The main issue is coaching, they are awful!!! But you guys have several nice young players all over the field. Wright, Hunter and Walker are a solid receiving corp with the right QB, Sankey hasn't really been given much of a shot because the oline is bad, and the defense hasn't really been torched despite losing the majority of their games badly.
I don't think there's a player I feel worse for than JJ Watt. He was instrumental in keeping his team alive and at 13-0, at least as far as Defensive players go... and then they go absolutely dumb for 3 minutes and are down 13-24.
Three minutes... 24 points...
Three minutes... 24 points...