There’s a continuity element that’s crucial for a school like Rutgers that hasn’t yet established itself as a reputable hoops school. Sure, we’ve been teased with success for a few years now and are on an upward trajectory, but in order to continue that tourney appearances, etc. are crucial. Regardless of the ‘24 class coming in, missing the tourney 2 years in a row would be a blow
Simpson and Griffiths(Cliff?) will put up points & could potentially offset the loss, Portal could help.Not doom and gloom time.Cam was a good fit hereabout, he enters a world of uncertainty
When he was on...Cam was great. When he wasn't...he wasn't. Good all around game tho. Paul needs to shoot next year, if he comes back.
You may be right that is where things appear headed, but that is not appealing or possible to many, and may end up killing the goose that laid the golden eggs.
Cause we don’t have any NIL
If those are the options agree. But we need to be in the NIL position to get both.
Where is TKR? Aren’t they supposed to help hold onto current players? How much did they give Cam so far??
I don't have a peak behind the curtain but I don't think it's as black and white as how well a school's NIL machine is working. Somehow the Ace Bailey deal is getting done and my guess is that would be more lucrative than what a Cam Spencer's retention deal would need to look like. I could be wrong on what it would have taken to keep him though, there may be folks affiliated with other schools who have ridiculously deep pockets to throw at Cam. Hard to know the complete picture.
I’m not counting the Ace deal as being done until he signs.
We have to assume at least an opportunity to counter was provided by Cam's people but if what he is getting from another school is way "above market" then you may not be willing to overbid to retain him.
NIL is complete garbage
I keep telliing people stop getting attached to the players.
Its all about $$$. Laughable that its about selling t shirts or hoops camp
The Days of oh he bled scarlet for Rutgers is over
I bet the bump for Mag is at play here
Bullsh*t. Big loss. IMO was our MVP last year. All around good ballplayer.
Agree, but someone(s) have made a pitch/offer/commitment (one-sided) for him to accept that is likely being weighed. It seems everything will hang in the balance with rosters from year to year.
Just goes to show he didn't wanna be here for the right reasons. F em
I don't profess to understand all the ins and outs of NIL, but I don't think it's one big pot split up between our players. There are donors involved that will steer the money towards certain players. It's got to be a lot easier to line up NIL for Ace, a top 3 prospect who will likely play in the NBA, than for someone like Cam, a streaky spot up shooter who is going to be playing in Europe if lucky next year. Any discretionary dollars probably went to keeping Mag, a much more important player. Teams have to make tough decisions on who to give $$ to. Maybe Cam was looking for a raise and got rejected, so he went into the portal knowing he could get his price elsewhere.
Cliff was def our MVP. We might not win a B1G game without him but Cam was clearly 2nd.
34 games 2022-23
11 worst Cam Spencer shooting games, 37.5% and lower
@ Miami, L, 1-10, 3pt 1-5
Vs Mich St, W, 1-8, 3pt 0-5
Vs Penn St, W, 1-7, 3pt 0-4
@ Illinois, L, 1-5, 3pt 0-1
Vs Indiana, W, 1-5, 3pt 1-3
@ Mich St, L, 3-14, 3pt 1-8
Vs Nebraska, L, 3-11, 3pt 2-6
Vs Seton Hall, L 3-7, 3pt 0-4
Vs Maryland, W, 3-10, 3pt 3-6, 13 pts
Vs UMass Lowell, W, 3-9, 3pt 1-3, 15 pts
Vs Bucknell, W, 3-8, 3pt 1-5
Totals 23-94 24.5%, 3pt 9-45 20%, 2pt 14-49 28.5% (6-5)
Quite a commonality of his worst games vs type of opponent in the first 9.
9-2 11 best shooting games, shooting 50% or better, vs Wake, vs Minn, Vs CCSU, @ Purdue, @ Minn L, @ Ohio St L, vs Sacred Heart, vs Rider, vs Coppin St, UM BTT, vs Columbia
. His best work was vs mostly bad teams and look what happened to the lone tournament team.
4-8 12 games in between, shooting between 38.5% to 50%, @ NW W, @ Wisc W, Vs Hofstra, @ Indiana, @ Penn St W, N Temple, vs Mich, vs Iowa, @ Iowa, vs NW, vs Ohio St W, N Purdue
11 worst Cam Spencer shooting games, 37.5% and lower
@ Miami, L, 1-10, 3pt 1-5
Vs Mich St, W, 1-8, 3pt 0-5
Vs Penn St, W, 1-7, 3pt 0-4
@ Illinois, L, 1-5, 3pt 0-1
Vs Indiana, W, 1-5, 3pt 1-3
@ Mich St, L, 3-14, 3pt 1-8
Vs Nebraska, L, 3-11, 3pt 2-6
Vs Seton Hall, L 3-7, 3pt 0-4
Vs Maryland, W, 3-10, 3pt 3-6, 13 pts
Vs UMass Lowell, W, 3-9, 3pt 1-3, 15 pts
Vs Bucknell, W, 3-8, 3pt 1-5
Totals 23-94 24.5%, 3pt 9-45 20%, 2pt 14-49 28.5% (6-5)
Quite a commonality of his worst games vs type of opponent in the first 9.
9-2 11 best shooting games, shooting 50% or better, vs Wake, vs Minn, Vs CCSU, @ Purdue, @ Minn L, @ Ohio St L, vs Sacred Heart, vs Rider, vs Coppin St, UM BTT, vs Columbia
. His best work was vs mostly bad teams and look what happened to the lone tournament team.4-8 12 games in between, shooting between 38.5% to 50%, @ NW W, @ Wisc W, Vs Hofstra, @ Indiana, @ Penn St W, N Temple, vs Mich, vs Iowa, @ Iowa, vs NW, vs Ohio St W, N Purdue
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My thought exactly. If they are making big NIL money why are they still getting scholarships?
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Who is we...i dont participate and will not in this charade
I am slowly absolving myself of believing the current landscape involves anyone necessarily being anywhere for the right reasons. With Pandora's box being opened, the primary consideration for many will be NIL compensation and can you really blame them? Given the opportunity, many will sell their services to the highest bidder.
Can’t blame the kids though. Many of us would do the same. It’s the system.
I said this when we signed that top 5 kid, that he wants to be here for 1 reason $$$ and y'all all laughed and quoted me blah blah, now look at this.. Hawh.. it's pathetic, nobody cares about pike and his personality being a "players coach", it's all fluff.
It's all about the benjamins
Sounds like UMass fans towards Fernandes.
We should probably revoke his scholarship since so many are upset about grad transfers.
Exactly. And, the good news is, we can actual elevate the program FASTER this way. With the resources required.
The fans . Buying tickets , going to games we are in support of college sports in this landscape . Fans are fans . If NIL really pissed fans off, the fans would leave . Most of these fans say they will care less etc. it’s BS . The fans here criticizing NIL are just crying wolf
Plenty of guys asking out of their LOI these days (Mgbako for one)
Why would you want to if it came out of nowhere? It just creates a bidding war and toxic environment. Trust me, I’m an Alabama fan. This isn’t new to me
This has always been the case. Players transfer up to better programs and more exposure.
Spencer left Loyola last year for a better opportunity.
Fernandes is transferring for a better opportunity.
The only reason players transfer "down" is to get more playing time.
When has anyone transferred to a worse situation for themselves and "I just wanted to go out of my way to make Cincinnati Football better. I really felt they should have a chance at winning."
What are "the right reasons"?
Spencer is rutgers graduate and rutgers man . He came here and got a degree . He’s a scarlet knight forever. Now he will get a graduate degree at another school and maybe better school.
I thought many of the dopes here cared about academics!
I thought many of the dopes here cared about academics!
Well sorry to give you bad news, there will no longer be continuity in high level college athletics anymore.