No. 13 Rutgers Wrestling Weekend Duals with No. 10 NC State, Davidson
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Agreed. Joey O looks great but this will be a tough weight class to Aa. It’s probably the toughest weight class this year.
You know better than anyone, this is how we've always looked under Goodale. We have a state of the art performance center and it seems no one knows where the weight room is.
I'm listening to this interview now. It's a sad story to hear how things panned out with Brian by the end, especially with the push into a style that made him uncomfortable. I'm happy to hear he's making the most of it at Oklahoma. Similar themes of differences in training/coaching staff are lingering...
There are some comments in common with both interviews. I think we see that play out when the kids don't advance or regress after the first year or two. A lot could be learned by interviewing past wrestlers, especially those who experienced different programs. I am real curious how the 184 match will go on December 13th. I hope neither wrestler dodges it.
We just got blasted by an ACC team that got smoked at the national duals. In year 19 for our head coach, you would think we'd have much better talent in each weight class.What exactly were you expecting this match? We lost 1 match we were favored and won 1 match we were underdog. Everything else went scratch with higher ranked winning.
Dual 2: No. 10 NC State 27, No. 13 Rutgers 11
125: 1/1 Vincent Robinson (NCST) over 28/31 Ayden Smith (RU) by dec., 8-3; NC State leads, 3-0
133: 12/9 Dylan Shawver (RU) over Troy Hohman (NCST) by SV1, 4-1; Match tied, 3-3
141: 12/13 Joseph Olivieri (RU) over 7/7 Ryan Jack (NCST) by dec., 8-6; RU leads, 6-3
149: 8/8 Koy Buesgens (NCST) over Devon Magro (RU) by MD, 15-4; NC State leads, 7-6
157: 11/9 Jackson Arrington (NCST) over 29/28 Anthony White (RU) by MD, 11-3; NC State leads, 11-6
165: 21/11 Will Denny (NCST) over Andrew Barbosa (RU) by dec., 4-2; NC State leads, 14-6
174: 3/3 Matty Singleton (NCST) over 9/4 Lenny Pinto (RU) by fall (1:07); NC State leads, 20-6
184: 16/17 Shane Cartagena-Walsh (RU) over Don Cates (NCST) by TF, 19-4 (5:22); NC State leads, 20-11
197: Cason Howle (NCST) over PJ Casale (RU) by dec., 4-3; NC State leads, 23-11
HWT: 2/4 Isaac Trumble (NCST) over 20/17 Hunter Catka (RU) by MD, 9-1; NC State wins, 27-11
No. 13 Wrestling Splits Matches at Journeymen Jostle - Rutgers University Athletics
FUQUAY-VARINA, N.C. – No. 13 Rutgers wrestling (5-1) split its matches at the Journeymen Jostle, defeating Davidson (2-5), 49-3, before losing to No. 10 NC Statescarletknights.com
In the grand scheme of things, our program isn't where it should be. And probably never will be until serious changes are made.
You will not see anything much different each year until... But that's where I give up hope. Rutgers will always shop from the bargain bin. Look at the football coaches of the past 50 years, always someone else's assistant coach. It will be the same for wrestling. We need a coach with credentials and a name that will attract serious wrestlers and a strong staff. Yes, they need to be paid their worth. If Rutgers isn't serious enough, then they should tell their fans that they should be happy being mediocre. I hope for a change, but I don't expect much. Lost opportunities.
The question was asked not my details to give but I know Clark won against both other kids at the weight.
I haven't watched much of any of our guys so far this season. I'll reserve my judgement until I can compare during the Minnesota match. The last time the Gofers rolled into town, our team looked noticeably undersized up and down the lineup. Stature wise and muscle comparison.
Hopefully, potential recruits and their family members don’t listen to the interviews with Peterson and Soldano. While they were respectful, it clear that if they had to do their recruitment again, they would not have chosen Rutgers. The loss of Pritzlaff, Buxton, and Rivera impacted them.
Why didn’t cotton go against nc state? Is he hurt or something? Any interesting indicator match results ?
I like the pace SCW wrestled against nc state.
Brian sounds like a genuinely good guy.. it was also kinda sad how he said he didn’t feel like he “fit in at RU”. Was hoping the team chemistry was stronger… wish him the best at Oklahoma
On the bright side, the PA pipeline that’s developing is legit so there is hope for the future. But let’s be real - there is simply no excuse for a B10 program in one of the most talent-rich areas of the country to get smoked by any ACC school. I’m sure Goodale is a great guy but he’s never going to have the appeal of a DT, Cael, Brands Bros, etc. I’d also like to know if he’s building relationships with clubs like KDTrained, Edge, Ruthless, and others within driving distance of RU. How many times a year does he visit SJR, Delbarton, Blair, etc.? The amount of wrestling talent in the tri-state area is insane.
He's had relationships with Edge and landed Joey O, but you know they also prefer to send kids elsewhere, if they can, just like the NJ parochials and other top NJ clubs. Rutgers isn't getting a fair shake at the NJ clubs and parochials. They all feel better about themselves when they can say they had recruits go to Ivy's, blue bloods, Lehigh, or even Pitt. The only reason they gave Rutgers the time of day was Pritzlaff and Buxton, and that goes for many of the top NJ clubs. That's why Rutgers pivoted to PA and elsewhere.
It's interesting that Soldano said he felt more of a family atmosphere at OU because that's what Rutgers had pushed. I'm curious if anyone has more info on that claim but it seems like it just wasn't a good cultural fit for him wanting more of the country mentality and not liking the city. Seems like the real issue was that he just didn't like the forced style change to drop the funk and wrestle a more traditional style, and also didn't like when Pritzlaff, Buxton and SeaBass left, so he also left, which makes sense. And also he said the staff focused on SCW as the starter going forward so he felt like they moved on from him so he should do the same. He was essentially passed over and processed out
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I believe they would've liked to see him sprawl when he could and use his funk when it was there not force it everytime. Guys knew what was coming and had a plan to avoid those situations. Also when you wrestle the same guys for a few years they've felt it . His results will be better because he's gonna wrestle different people. His style is tough to deal with the 1st time you feel it
I don’t know what the rules are as far as coaches dropping by clubs, but in all my years around the wrestling club world I never saw Goodale once. I have, however, seen others like PSU, Cornell, Lehigh and VT.
He's been to KD and done stuff in the past. Duke was at some RTC workouts while in HS.
He was banged up. What matches are u asking lots of them
Any results of note, maybe something that would surprise, or anything you want to share, thx
No real surprise maybe 165 was a surprise nothing really else. Who u think would win won the other matches. Minus some redshirting or banged up right now
Another interesting thing is Soldano felt like he was getting passed for SCW and that we were focusing on getting a transfer from Missouri.. wonder if we were ever really close to landing Elam.. with him being at Skcw and all…Iowa state swoops in and gets him and now they are beating Iowa and in contention for team trophy..
From what we all witnessed last year, he was getting passed by SCW. And if Rutgers was focusing on getting a much better wrestler in Elam than both of them? So be it. Improve, wrestle better, be on the top of your game (both which didn't happen), and the likelihood of getting overrecruited diminishes. By the way, SCW was a pleasant surprise pretty much out of nowhere last year. I'm looking forward to see what he does on the mat this year.