Certainly but to say you don’t believe this PSU administration because Of a past administration that is no longer there is silly
No racial taunts per PSU
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Certainly but to say you don’t believe this PSU administration because Of a past administration that is no longer there is silly
The coverup culture still exists even in the new “paradigm”.
Don’t even get me started on their fanbase. Everyone between Philly and Pittsburgh thinks Joe got railroaded.
because of past practice the school have top prove it's trustworthy not just accept it saying itt is or listening to those who say the problem has ended but can't furnish proof.
This basketball incident has shown school can't be trusted.
FROM A MEDIA REPORT :
>the vice president of Penn State’s student-fan organization, the Legion of Blue, sent a message to the group’s members chastising them for the use of vulgar language "directed to the members of the Rutgers basketball team."
The message also cited racist language .<
>Penn State athletic department officials issued a statement Monday that also said the claim of racist language being used appeared to be unfounded.<
Two different versions but one of the versions comes from a place that past pratice should make one leery of believing them
You might defend that school and feel it's an honest place now when it comes to admitting transgressions made by those associated with it , but I won't take the chance of letting Penn State have me believe that vice president of Penn State’s student-fan organization is a liar Others might not have picked up on the raciest statements that make PSU feel comfortable denying it happened, but that VP of student fans knew it did and reported it in an effort to kill the type of culture that had PSU protect a pervert then act all innocent about it.
People keep throwing out the word “lie”. When no one lied.
Like many similar instances over the year, a claim was made but unfounded. Believe what you want…all good. What my issue is is some people claiming as FACT this happened.
I don’t believe anything was said.
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can't say for a fact if it happened or not.
But I believe PSU wouldn't admit it did if they knew and had plausible deniability,
So I take the word of a PSU fan and believe a few racist taunts were made.
Even just one was made,it was reported, just couldn't be verified.
Yeah someone’s just having a good time yelling the n-word at people and the goddamn SJWs show up and make it about RACE
Unclear (would lean towards no) but that’s what the discussion is about. And that’s an obvious, non-debatably racial thing.
Yeah things are so clean there now.
James Franklin totally wasn't involved in a cover up at last job
And their last bball coach was totally not canned for racial issues
Oh lol
And he definitely had a reason to smear his own fan club....totally...
Yeah the cops and the fan VP are in a big plot with total rationale for lying.
Anything to defend.
Would expect nothing less.
The only thing that police ever said was that they never heard actual racial slurs, and received no reports of racial slurs. So, if the police are lying, and this could be the only thing that they are lying about.
Maybe not anything racist, but the reactions of our players on tape, show they heard something.
Interestingly enough, this thing hits close to home for me...my nephew was accused of racist taunts at a basketball game when he was in college.
Small D3 school, with a few hundred fans at their basketball games. It was so quiet that he and other students used to do Spongebob skits while the other team was at the FT line. I guess there is an episode where they keep saying "what he selling?...he's selling chocolates" again and again. This is one of the routines that they did.
After one game, he and some friends received letters in the mail that they were being brought up on disciplinary charges for yelling racist slurs at the other team...apparently, the player that they were doing the skit to was black, and saying the word "chocolate" was insensitive to him. He and his friends were found guilty by their kangaroo college court, he was suspended from the baseball team for several games, had to attend sensitivity training, had to write a paper, etc. Funniest part is that one of the kids doing it with him was black, but that didn't matter to the kangaroo court. Really sad, because he is a really good kid that has always had a very diverse group of friends, and doesn't have a racist bone in his body.
One person makes an accusation, it sticks to you, and it's really hard to "unstick" it.
Small D3 school, with a few hundred fans at their basketball games. It was so quiet that he and other students used to do Spongebob skits while the other team was at the FT line. I guess there is an episode where they keep saying "what he selling?...he's selling chocolates" again and again. This is one of the routines that they did.
After one game, he and some friends received letters in the mail that they were being brought up on disciplinary charges for yelling racist slurs at the other team...apparently, the player that they were doing the skit to was black, and saying the word "chocolate" was insensitive to him. He and his friends were found guilty by their kangaroo college court, he was suspended from the baseball team for several games, had to attend sensitivity training, had to write a paper, etc. Funniest part is that one of the kids doing it with him was black, but that didn't matter to the kangaroo court. Really sad, because he is a really good kid that has always had a very diverse group of friends, and doesn't have a racist bone in his body.
One person makes an accusation, it sticks to you, and it's really hard to "unstick" it.
I'm sure that the students were throwing insults at them from the second they walked into the gym.
they received no reports because people don't want to be involved .
As for them not hearing racial taunts themselves could be true because of crowd noise
drowning it out except to those close to who said it..
So won't accuse the police of lying but will imply some refuse to believe something happened because they don't want to think that type of thing goes on still
Think you're selling college kids short...if someone is yelling out n-bombs in 2023 in mixed company, there will be a lot of people getting involved.
Everyone throws out the racist word every minute it is so over used . I’m sure it was probably some d bag comments and nothing racist But at this point no one knows For sure until more info comes out.
3 pages in, has anybody produced any evidence of racist remarks being made, other than the PSU student in his tweet to other PSU students?
Last I checked, nobody from RU heard anything racist, the investigation from PSU turned up nothing racist, and there hasn't been any actual evidence of anything racist.
I need zero convincing that there is still way too much racism. At PSU, at RU, everywhere. But without actual evidence and witnesses, it's starting to look like, in this particular case, the PSU tweeter's information may not have been very accurate.
Last I checked, nobody from RU heard anything racist, the investigation from PSU turned up nothing racist, and there hasn't been any actual evidence of anything racist.
I need zero convincing that there is still way too much racism. At PSU, at RU, everywhere. But without actual evidence and witnesses, it's starting to look like, in this particular case, the PSU tweeter's information may not have been very accurate.
I mean they admitted things were said. Things are said everywhere. The RU student section says things. It’s part of basketball
Pure hatred toward something skews some people’s minds towards that something.
This is another example
I’m always in the thought that if it looks like a duck, it is most likely a duck.
Their own VP of their fan club is the one who reported it - allegedly duck
Police warned the fans about racial chanting- allegedly duck
Our players ere upset over something duck
PSU says it didn’t happen- “it isn’t a duck”
My guess is that Pike has also spoken to our players about not commenting
Their own VP of their fan club is the one who reported it - allegedly duck
Police warned the fans about racial chanting- allegedly duck
Our players ere upset over something duck
PSU says it didn’t happen- “it isn’t a duck”
My guess is that Pike has also spoken to our players about not commenting
Agree. What I don’t understand is during the after game presser with pike they asked him about it but they failed to ask the PSU coach about it . He is the one who talked to Caleb about it after the game and they don’t ask him ???
Pure speculation on my point, but it is not a stretch that SOME people might construe predominately white fans taunting/heckling a predominately black team as "racist". Therefore to get more attention they say there was "racist" chants. I highly doubt N-word bombs were being lobbed it would draw an immediate reaction.
I don't think it's as farfetched as some of you guys do that some stupid drunken 18-21 year old kid might say something.. not so great.. that a couple people heard but was mainly drowned out in the crowd. It seems pretty clear that if it happened it wasn't like a widespread or sustained incident. So it doesn't really even matter.
No…the VP of the student organization didn’t report these racist remarks.
The only thing he said is cops addressed the alleged remarks. No where does it say where the allegations game from. Little details like this are huge for my opinion
If this was first reported by our fans that were there…then you may have a point.
This was reported by THEIR Fanclub VP
Once again these alleged taunts were not reported by their fan club. Their fan club reported cops asked them about alleged taunts. It’s unknown who allegedly heard the taunts and told the cops.
ok ok- my bad- it was the report by the fan club of what they we told by cops. And none of it would have been reported at all if, well, their fan club didn't bring it up.
My point is that it was being identified by PSU people, it was not RU people that brought it up.
Sort of still looks like duck to me
you never wondered why he crossed the road? lol
source
enn State Student Section Under Fire for Reported Actions | NSNhttps://nittanysportsnow.com/2023/0...iate-behavior-from-group-during-rutgers-game/
And then they interviewed the police/staff who said that they didn't hear about anything racist said that night...again, the game of telephone where someone heard something from someone who heard something and that next person posted about it online.
source
https://nittanysportsnow.com/2023/0...iate-behavior-from-group-during-rutgers-game/
It's incredibly unlikely to be that someone was screaming n-bombs and yet no students reacted, the police are lying to the university, no one took any action at that time, etc. I mean, where in 2023 can someone yell out out racist stuff and not get any type of immediate reaction?
A much more logical scenario to me...the police told someone "the students were extremely inappropriate tonight and crossed lines that shouldn't be crossed. They used language that wasn't acceptable and if that behavior happens again, there will be severe repercussions. Pass that on to the Legion of Blue." Someone relayed that to someone else who relayed it to someone else, and by the time it got to the kid that posted on Facebook, there was a racial component to it.
We can speculate all we want when we give opinions on what happened.
Sometimes what happens is people decide it's too much trouble to follow through and feel more comfortable acting like they didn't see or hear something because some people where they live might not like them reporting a problem. and cause them problems.claiming they hurt the schools image by reporting a bad act.
You can see or hear something , tell a friend in confidence and if it gets out refuse to step up knowing friend won't say your name and have you put in a position of fingers being pointed at you as the one who said something that made everyone look bad.
My scenario is, there probably was a raciest taunt but the people around the taunter prefer not to get involved on something that they could have been mistaken about..
Others might speculate racism doesn't happen with so many people around, so there wasn't any racist taunts.
Police won't be lying about no one said they heard it , but the way they put questions might make a person leery of saying they heard something hard to prove they really did when asked..