Not that I give much of a damn about Bama or aTm, but did anybody else notice aTm got hosed at the end?
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The week before, after Arkansas got it close, Bama OL was holding the DE by the face mask right in front of the ref on the QB’s long TD run. Death, taxes and Bama refs.
You sure? Hardly seems fair. Let's say there were 30 seconds left for the offense starting inside their own 10 when the defense deliberately commits PI to avoid a TD, makes the INT, then just runs the ball around enough to run the clock out. The D could exchange 15 yards for 10+ seconds per penalty if they make an INT and leave the opponent with very little chance to get a real shot at winning.
What would stop a DC from telling his guys to, when possible, just shove the WR away, get an INT and run around as long as he can until he is tackled? Get called for PI, but the opponent gets just 15 yards while you took away at least 2 play opportunities, maybe more.
Yes, no time is added back after penalties. That’s why games can’t end on a defensive penalty. To prevent a defense from fouling to end a game.
Has this ever happened in the history of football? You just described a very specific situation that I don’t think has ever happened.
As noted by someone else, the game cannot end on a defensive penalty. But no time is added back.
It’s not a great rule. But it’s the rule.
One scenario that’s played out in the past is: defense up 3 with let’s say 8 seconds left. Ball on the 10. Offense has no time outs left. As soon as the ball is snapped the defense just drags all the receivers to the ground. It’s PI but 5-6 seconds runs off so the offense can’t score a game winner and has to kick a FG.
Well, we know it is routine for a DB to commit intentional PI when he is beaten for a likely TD. This would be a simple extension of that when time per play is more valuable than 15 yards in penalties. Is it possible we never see that because there are rules that discourage that, such as resetting the game clock?
Consider that a "prevent defense" is happy to concede pass completions of 10-15 yards anyway in these situations.
In the specific example of the Bama game, the defense benefitted a little by committing the foul because instead of 2 or 3 plays from the 2, aTm got just one, even though the INT was made with 11 seconds remaining. Game clock got run down from 11 to 3 only because the Bama player caught the ball and did not immediately go down.
Correct, you don't put time back on all the way to the interception. But the Bama DB kneeled the ball with 5 seconds left, which should have stopped the clock for change of possession. So they still should've had time for 2 plays.
Actually, I believe it is that a game can't end on a penalty by the team that is leading.
