I would have to look for it. It was a comment from back around when USC was added.
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I have never experienced jet lag going west. 3 extra hours of internal body rest is my experience. Being spent afterwards is a different story imo.
They don't want to lose the Chicago or NYC TV markets in this day and age. Both will stay in the B1G. TV was not that big of a CF factor when Chicago U was in the B1G many decades ago.
People keep jabbering about adding additional teams but start with NYC, Chicago, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, D.C, Baltimore, Detroit, Milwaukee, Columbus, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Los Angelas, and I know I've left out a few more. Those are all multi-million markets. Now they have Seattle and Portland. Huge money for the conference members. The conference will not be adding members unless it brings in a lot of eyeballs. TV drives CF
The top 30 R&D performers:
- Johns Hopkins University: $3.2 billion
- University of California, San Francisco: $1.7 billion
- University of Michigan, Ann Arbor: $1.6 billion
- University of Pennsylvania: $1.6 billion
- University of Washington, Seattle: $1.5 billion
- University of California, Los Angeles: $1.45 billion
- University of California, San Diego: $1.42 billion
- University of Wisconsin-Madison: $1.4 billion
- Stanford University: $1.3 billion
https://universitybusiness.com/r-d-...top-30-college-university-higher-ed-spenders/
Eight million households is what they see when they look at RU
AAU membership has been the one common thread. I would predict that if you're not a member you're not getting in. So that leaves Duke, Viriginia, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, Colorado, Florida, Arizona, Arizona State, Pitt, Utah, Kansas, North Carolina, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Cal, Notre Dame, Stanford, and Miami.
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Less leverage in joining a conference maybe, but I think this helps them stay independent.
Fewer top conferences to take autobid for playoffs. They can remain independent and get top 12 spot without joining/sharing NBC contract. ACC will give in to NDs desires to stay relevant.
AAU is no longer a requirement as many have said already.
Thanks for finding that. I knew I had read that change but couldn’t find where.
Now to be fair..this wasn’t said publicly…and McMurohy is just quoting a “source”…so certainly could be BS. But lots of people think it’s true
So Brett McMurphy has said it's no longer a requirement. When he gets to decide Big Ten policy I'll believe it. Got anybody else? Like someone who can actually make that decision? And his opinion really adds nothing. He says it's a "preference" not a requirement. Well it really always was. The Big 10 would've taken ND in a heartbeat even before it got into the AAU. But there are very few Notre Dames. When the Big 10 expands with a non AAU team, I'll be proven wrong. But as you can see from the list, there's a lot of good choices there. Sorry Free Shoes University.
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ND just became an AAU recently along with USF and some others iirc.
Edit: Here you go. Miami as well. I posted about it when it happened at that time in May of this year. ND was always welcome AAU or not but they are now anyway.
www.aau.edu
Edit: Here you go. Miami as well. I posted about it when it happened at that time in May of this year. ND was always welcome AAU or not but they are now anyway.
Six Leading Research Universities Join the Association of American Universities | Association of American Universities (AAU)
The following is a statement from the Association of American Universities welcoming Arizona State University; the George Washington University; the University of California, Riverside; the University of Miami; the University of Notre Dame; and the University of South Florida to its membership:
www.aau.edu
Not if teams stop scheduling them. More conference teams is likely going to lead to more conference games. At some point, they aren't going to be able to schedule to a playoff.
Mcmurphy didn’t say it….a big ten source said it to him.
As I said above, take ir for what it’s worth, but the big ten never denied mcmurphy’s source and many people believe jt
If MCMurphy was quoting a reliable B1G source, this was after the contract negotiations when they discussed adding USC/UCLA and got estimates on a bunch of other potential adds. They could have been given an enticing $$ number on a non-AAU school that might be available in the future. That could be FSU or another school.
Understood. I was just trying to figure out it this came from anyone other than McMurphy's source. I don't think USC would've needed AAU membership either. But schools like SC and ND are rare. We'll see.
Or Mc Murphy was specifically talking to his source about ND and was told AAU is a preference and wouldn't have kept ND out. I just don't see any way Florida State would even be considered. Florida? sure. Miami? ditto.
FSU’s president is from Harvard and he was the Vice Provost of Research there. I think @JayDogSmooth said one of his goals is getting FSU into the AAU.
It’s a good football name and has a great new market and if its trajectory is getting into the AAU, I don’t think not being in it currently would hold them back at all. The problem they have is getting free and clear of the GOR and we’ll see if that PE money play will work.
It’s a good football name and has a great new market and if its trajectory is getting into the AAU, I don’t think not being in it currently would hold them back at all. The problem they have is getting free and clear of the GOR and we’ll see if that PE money play will work.
All good, just the source. Nothing public.
But i think it’s very clear now conference realignment is all about $$$$$$ and tv calls the shots. So I can certainly see non AAU powerhouse football programs being invited.
We’ll shall see is right, lol
The real question would be a team like Alabama. Would the B10 turn them down? Now there's the litmus test! Or even Clemson. Not AAU but a helluva program. And probably looking for a home real soon.
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ND wasn’t AAU until this year and they would’ve gotten in any time they wanted.
FSU would likely get in too as they’re working towards it and that’s probably good enough.
It’s all about money, so FSU is definitely a possibility.
It’s not like it’s Boise. There’s probably a bar but FSU is very likely over that bar.
I know we really had no choice in any of this and got the golden ticket to the B1G, but I hate what has happened to college sports conferences.
Clemson was already busted cheating on their USNWR numbers years ago, so I wouldn’t put too much stock in that.
FSU is currently tied with Rutgers at #55 along with Maryland, Washington, and Miami. Clemson is tied at #77 with several schools including Michigan State. Oregon is at 105.
We have to hope that Hobbs negotiated some type of deal when UCLA/USC were given a full share in 2024 to forgive our loans. That would be a plus instead of paying them back until 2024. As for Washington and Oregon I don't see how they will even cover their entrance. Which is why they were given the 50% buy in. It was the same for Nebraska. The only way they could justify their entrance monetarily was by being the 12th member and adding the Championship game.
Re AAU, I heard 7-10 years but 95 said 5 years
He’s pretty clued into this stuff and the sooner the better so I’ll take his word for it
Fox wants to control the West Coast through the Big 10. In addition the Oregon and Washington being in significant markets, their respective Universities are committed to football and they are perennially top 25 programs. Casual college football fans are much more likely to tune in to games involving these teams when they are are playing other ranked Big 10 teams. More viewers, more advertising dollars.
You know the old joke about two guys running from a lion. "I don't have to be faster than the lion, I only have to be faster than you."
Plenty of programs bring less households and none are in the #1 market but us. Football will be good again, I believe sooner than most think.
Edit: Notre Dinero would be an addition with a national appeal, but not a regional replacement for anyone. And don't count on them giving up their independence until the ACC goes the way of the BE and PAC12.
The PAC 12 commish was in a no win situation. This was inevitable given their inability to monetize the conference.
The same thing will happen to the Acc
Per US News: There were 3,982 degree-granting postsecondary institutions in the U.S. as of the 2019-2020 school year.
In Canada, there are about 450.
That equals 4,432 total. Simple math says 71 AAU members out of 4,432 = 1.6% who have AAU membership. That's hardly a participation trophy.