Oregon, Washington to Big Ten!
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I agree with you for the most part but if any school would find themselves in the crazy position of getting thrown out for another it's RU and for ND.
Well supposedly the B10 didn’t want to be “predatory” and wanted the corner schools to move to the B12 first but that’s not what happened. The corners schools were hesitating so from all accounts the B10 was going to stand pat for now if that was the case. Instead the B10 acted first anyway and was “predatory.”
So that’s why I say Fox must’ve made them get over their bout of conscience lol.
I'm the opposite. If I go west, my best bet is rise early bed early to avoid lag. Easy to do in Vegas since clock doesn't matter. Was in a bar watching RU game @ 9am Vegas time. Didn't matter one bit.
Going to Europe I can stay up all night. I hit the big wall coming back to the states. Takes me a few days to get back on track.
This, 100%. For me, in an alternate universe, somewhere in the late-80s, all the eastern independents banded together and formed not necessarily a conference, but some sort of consortium, anchored by ND, PSU and Miami, with RU, BC, 'cuse, Pitt and WVU, VT and Maryland and tie-ins with the service academies. The winner of the Lambert Trophy is the de facto champion and plays in the Orange Bowl. The conferences collectively negotiate media so the money is spread fairly evenly between a larger number of smaller conferences, negating desire for realignment and consolidation. Innovative ways to monetize regionalization and tradition are developed. But, college sports stay focused on students, not athletes. Also, we're way, way more competitive in this alternate universe than we've been in reality!
Everyone gets 1, and then the remaining 16 you do 8 and 8, so every 4-year athlete plays every team once home and once away
There was a report from Dellenger that the ACC was seriously considering adding 5-7 PAC schools. Wonder if that also helped to push the B10 to act now.
nah, if I'm Purdue, Indiana, Illinois I'd be worried as they bring nada where we at least bring money
A lot of talk about the B10 academic consortium. They have a site for their academic alliance. There’s definitely some coke stuff they do and adding the west coast schools will just make it better.
I would say there is little chance the Big Ten would kick out Rutgers because it's obviously seeking the largest geographic footprint possible (outside the south). It has just three teams in the northeast and nothing in New York or New England. Kicking one of them out would basically mean abandoning the region except for the edges. Perhaps at some point, though, either Syracuse or BC is invited.
If you're the Big Ten you don't need Rutgers to be great. You hope they do better to bring in more viewers but you already have great teams. Rutgers won't be vying for NCs any time soon, anyway.
If you're the Big Ten you don't need Rutgers to be great. You hope they do better to bring in more viewers but you already have great teams. Rutgers won't be vying for NCs any time soon, anyway.
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If they hold the same number of actual protected rivals as the previous model they are likely going to be creating more unbalanced scheduling competition wise.
MSU would likely be the most upset with a theoretical 1-8-8 rotation, but that is the method that makes the most sense.
In the last half dozen years, tOSU has played a Friday (and a couple Thursday) night games.
PSU has had a couple Friday (and one Thursday) night games.
Michigan has been allowed to reject the possibility of this occurring.
I would not expect any of these 3 to have a home Friday night game.
While I would hate PSU participating in an after dark/late night Saturday game, I’m not sure they would have enough “pull” to object. I’d say they’d have less pull about this than to a home Friday game, but more pull than they’ve had in objecting to their odd conference opening away game imbalance.
Wouldn't hold your breath on that one. None of the original ten are ever being forced out. Personally, I don't ever see anyone ever being forced out but I could see some choosing to leave at some point if certain things happen.
Rutgers budget is $5.1 billion. The $100 million from Athletics is nice. Appreciated. But, it's 2% of the budget. Rather insignificant, in the big picture. As such, it does not come close to driving the bus. That is my point.
The prestige of being associated with other land grant, research institutions is quite important. That is what the Big Ten Conference is about. Sure, it is a sports conference. But, it is an association of Universities that care deeply about academics and research.
I didn’t know that. Were those early season OOC games?
Whatever the case, if they can be included in games played in those windows it makes a new package even more attractive to try and sell.
I don’t know about others in conference but I’d think USC/UCLA would go from 1 protected to at least 2 or possibly 3 with Washington and Oregon added. I’d guess the same for them as well.
PE money to buy out the sports media rights of a State University? Hmmmm. Very creative. I would love to know the details of how that would work.
It was a dumb move at the time (only 6 years ago). It is stupid for a business to voluntarily give up all of its future options.
If this was the case, they should have met last week when FSU made it public they were ready to leave (or earlier). They dragged their feet again, and failed miserably. It is remarkable how poorly run the ACC and PAC 12 (4) have proven to be.
They were stupid because they gave away their opportunity to change when the college sports landscape was changing. It’s stupid. And they have been paying the price ever since.
And will those 12-14 extra home games plus hoops pay for the $60M/year that the two schools get combined?
Rutgers95 , any acknowledgment of your very loud opinion that Washington was not a Big expansion candidate.
The PAC12 commissioner walked into a horrible situation, but he can be criticized for one huge error that doomed his conference.
The B12 recognized that there might not be enough money to go around this time, and prioritized getting an extension done even though the current B12 deals were due to end a year AFTER the current PAC12 deals did. When the B12 extensions were announced it was surprising news, and the B12 turned out to be vindicated by how the TV partners treated the PAC12 afterwards.
Meanwhile, the PAC12 seemed oblivious to the idea that there was any sense of urgency to get things done and that ESPN and Fox might both be looking to cut costs after giving big raises to the SEC and B1G.
That’s what I actually said in my post that started this “forced out” talk, but I am no longer worried about anyone leaving either.
That could have been a worry if the B1G let USC/UCLA get to the SEC like they did OU and Texas, but the B1G’s recent moves have destroyed ESPN’s dream of making the SEC the one superconference controlling everything,
USN&WR rankings are widely recognized as easily manipulated hot garbage. No serious academic gives them a serious thought.
ACC expansion? Lololololololll!!!
How desperate would any decent school have to be to join the ACC given their restrictive GOR contract? UW or OU or Utah or any PAC school give up their GOR for 13 years. Lllolololol
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Issue to be concerned about down the road will be uneven distribution of Revenues / Profits.
I think it’s inevitable that the big schools like Ohio State / Michigan / USC will want bigger slices at the expense of Rutgers/ Northwestern/ Minnesota etc.
First off, USC and Northwestern are private and not state universities. Also, I didn't realize your initial response had stipulations attached to it. My bad. Anyhow, based on your large university status which is 15,000 or more enrollements, Florida Gulf Coast is right above the cutoff for US institutions and sits at #334. 69 have AAU status out of 334, and that equals a shade over 20%. Calling it a participation trophy at 20% is still a huge stretch. What's the next comparison to support your statement? Peer groups ranked by geographical locations, under a certain elevation and located near a large body of water?
Not long ago, some here were lamenting over Warren as B1G commissioner and ACC commissioner Philips was being lauded as the one the B1G should have hired. IIRC, Warren had vetted Washington and Oregon before he left. Philips was long time AD at Northwestern and presided over a culture of a abuse. Now he can clean the scraps off the B1G table the B1G feasted at. Suck it ACC.
And it’s likely that the B1G believes that it can monetize (owning the Western time zone) the four PAC schools close enough to pay for themselves. On top of that, if the B1G didn’t move allowing the SEC to make this same move, that would have forever stunted the B1Gs financial and growth opportunity.