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miker183

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RUAldo said:
So the net effect of the play/rule is shorter players are allowed to get concussions?
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I'm only saying you can't ask a player to crouch to make a hit. Pretty sure Meier is a bit taller, so don't know what Trouba was supposed to do.
 
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RUAldo said:
So the net effect of the play/rule is shorter players are allowed to get concussions?
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Meier isn’t a shorter player, he lowered his head.

If Trouba made the same hit on a shorter player who didn’t lower his head and the head was the point of contact, it is a penalty and suspension.
 
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miker183 said:
Disagree. The hit was clean, the result was unfortunate.

Scott Stevens says hello. Pretty sure nobody complained when he unleashed on people; also NOT penalties.
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This is a classic Scott Stevens style hit, and many say that if Stevens played today, most of his big hits would be penalties.
 
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miker183 said:
Disagree. The hit was clean, the result was unfortunate.

Scott Stevens says hello. Pretty sure nobody complained when he unleashed on people; also NOT penalties.
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Are you serious? People are STILL complaining about that Lindros hit. I did a coaching seminar a couple of year ago and that hit was literally used as an example of something that would no longer be legal in USA Hockey.

No one needs 'unfortunate results'. You just make it illegal. USA Hockey already did. The NHL can and should follow suit.
 
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zappaa said:
Is it possible Drury keeps Gallant.
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I can’t see how. When you are a coach who does nothing tactically, shouldn’t you get the blame when the players lack motivation and effort in a big spot?

I am considering Gallant gone, and more wondering if they can get Panarin to waive his NMC.
 
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krup said:
Meier isn’t a shorter player, he lowered his head.

If Trouba made the same hit on a shorter player who didn’t lower his head and the head was the point of contact, it is a penalty and suspension.
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I still see no indication of Timo lowering his head. Trouba was going for the head as soon as he lined up Timo. But, whatever…Timo came back…Trouba still a dirt bag.
 
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RUAldo said:
I still see no indication of Timo lowering his head. Trouba was going for the head as soon as he lined up Timo. But, whatever…Timo came back…Trouba still a dirt bag.
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Yeah it's not like the guy getting hit has to be standing straight up for it to be a penalty. It's not a penalty if the person receiving the hit suddenly changes the level of his head right before impact, but that's not what happened here.
 
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RUinBoston said:
I don't know whether that IS a penalty by NHL standards. but it should be. If you are going to allow 'big time hits', you also have to hold the big time hitters responsible when they miss the body and hit the head, regardless of whether or not it is was on purpose. I don't think he meant to hit the head, but he did nonetheless.
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It's exactly the kind of hit we all complain about being called in football. Thank goodness Timo was OK, but after seeing the replays the no call is the right call. How many times have we seen Scottie do the same thing? Shame on Timo for skating into traffic with his head down. He should have known better; they've been after him all series.
 
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This is a classic Scott Stevens style hit, and many say that if Stevens played today, most of his big hits would be penalties.
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Different era....different day. Akin to Ronnie Lott roaming the backfield and knocking people into next week. That can't happen today. Tonight and in today's awareness, that should have been a penalty, IMO.
 
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Messier agreed with what I said after Games 1 and 2. Rangers weren't even that good, was just that the Devils were terrible.
 
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RUAldo

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czxqa said:
It's exactly the kind of hit we all complain about being called in football. Thank goodness Timo was OK, but after seeing the replays the no call is the right call. How many times have we seen Scottie do the same thing? Shame on Timo for skating into traffic with his head down. He should have known better; they've been after him all series.
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Scotty was my hero growing up but most of his big hits would be penalties and prob suspensions. Basically ended Kariya’s career. Lindros was never the same.
 
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