Here is my bet proposal.
When the Devils fail to make the playoffs, you have to have your signature say, “Proud was
Right” through the first round. If they make the playoffs, I’ll have my sig say anything you want for the first two rounds.
OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders
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Here is my bet proposal.
When the Devils fail to make the playoffs, you have to have your signature say, “Proud was
Right” through the first round. If they make the playoffs, I’ll have my sig say anything you want for the first two rounds.
We don’t need a tangible bet Proud.Here is my bet proposal.
When the Devils fail to make the playoffs, you have to have your signature say, “Proud was
If they make the playoffs, I’ll have my sig say anything you want for the first two rounds.
I’ll be able to bust your chops or you mine like friends do….that’s good enough for me.
Way to early. Holtz has not been given a full time role yet. In time you might be right, but I can't say that yet. Look at how much time the NYI gave Barzal, by your logic on this he is worse than Zacha.
Not sure I follow.
In Zachas first full season he had 25 points
Barzal had 82
Barzal has always looked better than Zacha.
Another terrible Devils draft pick
Same with Jarvis and Holtz
Zacha was in the NHL long before Barzal. They were in the same draft. Zacha was picked 6th, while Barzal went 16th. The NYI let him ripen in the minors where as the NJD rushed Zacha.
Devils we’re dumb to rush him but Barzal is clearly just better , even if he came into the same time
When have you been spot on? I'm serious, you posted a couple weeks ago that you were right when you said the Devils would be a subpar team by February, and I never recalled you saying that (not to mention it's ridiculous to call them a subpar team) but I let it go, but again you're saying you called this, so I went back and searched, and you never did.
You're making crap you never said.
But that's only part of the problem with your logic, you're acting like a bad streak is proof they suck again - ALL teams go through bad stretches, anyone who knows this sport KNOWS THIS, hell, I saw it coming on Dec 12th I posted this before the second Rangers game at the Garden:
"I expect the Rangers to get the best of the Devils tonight, they're starting to percolate and we're starting to cool off."
There is no way this team was going to win 7 out of 8 games the whole year, no one does that.
And the other issue with you logic is they're not being losing because they're soft, that's 100% bullcocky and more evidence you don't grasp this sport. The last three games they lost they played the Bruins (2x) and Canes and played them tough losing all games at the end. The second Bruins game I was at the Devils outplayed from the first minute - difference is they couldn't finish all night long.
Last night they were up 4-3 with minutes to go before bonehead penalties cost them dearly.
They've been competing and during a bad spell that's all you can ask for.
BUT they're young and they're going to go through growing pains, and that's what you want, you don't win in this league without feeling the pain of defeat first.
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Maybe the silliest comment in this thread yet, thanks to Devils and their scouts we have one of the most envied stables of talent in the league, on this team as we speak and down on the pipeline.
The Devils uncanny ability to find gems after the first two rounds in the drafts is almost unmatched. But they can't be trusted.
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Maybe the silliest comment in this thread yet, thanks to Devils and their scouts we have one of the most envied stables of talent in the league, on this team as we speak and down on the pipeline.
The Devils uncanny ability to find gems after the first two rounds in the drafts is almost unmatched. But they can't be trusted.
Aside from Bratt, a tremendous find, and Mercer is pretty good.
Who else from the current roster?
Jack was a consensus top pick.
1 playoff appearance since 2012
I mean you didn't even know who Seth Jarvis was, you had to edit his name in later, but you're an expert on NHL talent!! I love it.
I didn’t edit his name.
I had to dumb down the post for you
Love how you moved the goal post to exclude non-roster players, just fantastic.
But we took Nico over Nolan Patrick, which we should get our knees and thank God for Shero and the scouts realizing who was the better talent.
We drafted Sharangovich in 5th round and Miles Wood in 4th round. Zetterlund in the 3rd round. Bastian was a nice 2nd round pick up. McLeod and Boqvist are also our picks.
We've also traded for (actually stole) Marino and Siegenthaler. Same goes with Graves.
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We reaped Mercer, Bahl and even Siegenthaler (we traded the 3rd rounder from that trade for him) from that heist.
And when you think about it, we traded Adam Larsson for those three as that's who we traded for Hall.
While they were drafted the same year the NYI didn't rush Barzal, so he was in the minors longer than he needed to be. Zacha had 2 or 3 years in the NJD lineup when Barzal was finally called up. This is part of the reason he is a name player in the league. Whereas Zacha is on his second team, still trying to carve out a niche. The NJD are slow walking Holtz by design hoping to over ripen him.
The NJD owners just want more avenues for revenue. This is starting to remind me of the Mets in the late 90's early 00's. I wish they would sell the team to a group that wants the Devils to win. Not just get good press, to help them buy other franchises.
If you're referring to the new alternate and reverse retro jerseys, the owners probably didn't have much of a choice. Thanks to Adidas and the NHL, every team has a reverse retro jersey, and most teams have an alternate now too. I hate it.
Yes that is it. However I think the fact the Devils almost never seem to wear their regular jersey's, especially the red one, is why I commented like that. That is where I think it goes back to Harris and Blitzer.
On Dec 5th the Rangers moved Kakko into the top 6 and Goodrow has mostly played in the bottom 6. Since then the Rangers are 9-2-1 and have outscored their opponents 45-28. Gallant was quoted just this weekend as saying “Goodrow makes every line he plays on better”, which is a complete fallacy.
In the last 19 games, when Gallant plays all four of Panarin/Mika/Kreider/Trocheck for over 19 minutes, the Rangers are 1-5-1. When he plays one or none of those four players over 19 minutes, they are 6-0. Play the kids.
In the last 19 games, when Gallant plays all four of Panarin/Mika/Kreider/Trocheck for over 19 minutes, the Rangers are 1-5-1. When he plays one or none of those four players over 19 minutes, they are 6-0. Play the kids.
The Rangers have once again put themselves in a sticky salary situation.
So, ON TOP of the production you've cited, a move to the kids makes sense from a salary standpoint. There is a foundation here, and parts need to be added.
I'm not sold on Laf, but really wish we had started him in Hartford. Development has, at least, been hampered, but I don't disagree with those who are saying that he has yet to show a skillet that says he will be an impact player.
Time will tell, but it might not happen for him here.
We have discussed this here a few times--they couldn't start him in Hartford since he still had junior eligibility. The only options were bringing him straight to the NHL or letting him completely dominate the Q for another season. From a development standpoint, bringing him to the NHL seemed like a no-brainer because he wasn't being challenged enough in juniors--he put up over 2 points a game as an 18-year old. Playing him in that same league a year older would have been a very questionable decision. Maybe he wasn't ready to make an impact in the NHL yet, but you certainly don't become a better player by spending years playing against kids you are far better than. That's why he was playing juniors at 16.
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Fair enough, but because of Covid, he hadn't played an actual game for (IIRC) 16-18 months.
AND, the Rangers held him out of the international competition; I agreed with that though.
I dont know what the answer is, but he's not screaming #1OA to me.
I hate that rule and the Rangers are dealing with it again with Othmann now.
The junior leagues benefit from getting a few players that are underage early due to the exceptional player rule, there should be a similar rule that lets a few out early as well.
I highly doubt that was a consideration. Since he went the USHL route instead of CHL, I'm pretty sure he could have gone to the AHL. Also looking back at it now, what would have been the point of that? At age 21, he's an alternate captain and tied for 9th in the league in goals. Would he really be any better if he played elsewhere that first year? Yeah he didn't have an outstanding rookie year, but the goal isn't to have a great rookie year, it's to have a great career. Like I mentioned with Lafreniere, you don't get better by not being challenged. If Hughes was still struggling then maybe you'd have a point but I don't know how anyone can see how he's playing now and say the Devils mismanaged his development.
Well I guess the "similar rule that lets a few out early" is the ability to go straight to the NHL before exhausting your junior eligibility, but yeah it is an unfortunate rule. It stems from when the NHL dropped the draft age from 20 to 18. Sadly, some players get screwed because of it.
In this situation, I would have sent Othmann back explicitly to play right wing. We already have a logjam on the left. Let him learn the new position, and there is lineup versatility and the challenge needed at a level he has already "bested."
Agree about the rule though. It helps one level, and hurts the next, and possibly the players.
That's not realistic either, the junior teams don't answer to NHL teams. The NHL team can send the player back to the junior team, but they don't dictate how he is utilized. The junior team's management and coaching staff is concerned with trying to win a championship. They aren't going to force a player to learn a new position just to help an NHL team manage their roster.
Then I guess the rule exists despite the harm to a players' development. Unfortunate.
Yeah it sucks. For this reason, the American path may be better than the Canadian path because while the CHL has more depth skillwise, it also closes a lot of doors for you that the USHL leaves open. Americans have an advantage here because the USHL rules state that you cannot have more than six non-Americans on your roster.
I agree with the conclusion, but to be fair, he tends to lean on those guys extra hard when they're trailing.
I agree, but the stat says it doesn’t work because they still end up losing. That’s one of the big problems with Gallant. He doesn’t make normal coaching moves like matching lines, but when the team faces adversity he starts shuffling the lines and gives the majority of the ice time to the guys he is comfortable with, regardless of how well they are playing.
I know. When he was hired I remember thinking "no way he was fired just because he disagreed with the front office on line combinations." Year and a half later - can totally see it.