OT: 2022-23 NHL thread….Devils & Rangers & Islanders
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What would you have preferred?
1) Tank and Kane
or
2) O'Reilly and Kane
I think the Rangers kinda rushed into Tarasenko, like you I've not been impressed with his game so far with the Rangers, of course I'm working from hindsight.
Taresenko has a far better history and I would have hoped my advanced scouts who I’m sure followed Tank for multiple games came away with he’s still got good play left in him
I'm not writing him off at all, the first words out of my mouth when the trade was made were "that's just ******* great". Fact is what he does in the regular season is pretty irrelevant, it's the playoffs that matter.
But bottom line for me is O'Reilly would have been a better fit, hell, it we fail on the Meier sweepstakes he was my Plan B.
But I don't know if I would have given the Blues the same kind of package for rental.
Not in the playoffs. O'Reilly is about as clutch as you get. And yes I'm using hindsight, but at the same time when Drury was talking to the Blues, I just feel he focused on the wrong player. I keep hearing Rangers fans say they need to get stronger at center, so what happens? They ignore the one center who would have helped and instead went with another forward.
BTW, this is why I'm cool with keeping all this in one thread, I like talking hockey in general, just not Devils hockey.
I gotta be honest, peeking at who you had at RW before getting Tank, that was some pretty weak ****.
Not this year at all.
O’Reilly has been the better all around player. He does so much that isn’t acknowledged on the score sheet.
The reasoning for doing it this way was to add more fuel to rivalries by making it so most of the playoff matchups are division rivalries, and I agree with their idea that intense rivalries tend to be born from heated playoff series rather than a few games sprinkled throughout the season. Right now we're looking at a Devils and Rangers first round matchup, with the old format the Devils would be matched up with Tampa and the Rangers with Toronto.
I agree they should try to make it more like 5 times playing your division rivals in the regular season though, then maybe 3 times against the teams in the other division in your conference, then the remaining 23 games against the other conference. Let's not forget there were complaints about the old way too though. For years the Southeast Division was by far the weakest, but the top team in that division would automatically get a 3 seed because the division winners were automatically ranked 1-3. Essentially the new way is the top 3 teams in each division make the playoffs and there are 2 wild card teams, and the old way was the top team in each division makes the playoffs with 5 wild card teams. My main problem with the current format is that geography was abandoned by putting the Florida teams with all the northeast teams. I understand they did that to avoid breaking up rivalries, but it still irks me.
That would be a poor trade for the Rangers, given that the Blackhawks have no leverage.
They should be lowballing Chicago with a take it or lose him for nothing this summer offer.
Nobody likes Chytil more than me, but I would probably give Tarasenko that spot on PP1 that Chytil is occupying just trying to get him going.
Geez. Flip could have had 2 last night.
He plays with great speed to even be in those positions to score
He is so good right now. Even when he doesn’t score I love that he has such a shooter’s mentality on a team that can pass too much sometimes.
Tonight’s game should be tough on a back to back with Calgary looking for revenge. I just hope Lucic doesn’t hurt anybody with a cheap shot since Blais isn’t around to pay back for embarrassing him last game. Trouba better have his head on a swivel.
Another nice road win in Pittsburgh, comments concerning our demise are premature.
If Vanecek can win a couple of more before losing, he will break a Marty Brodeur record for point streak.
If Vanecek can win a couple of more before losing, he will break a Marty Brodeur record for point streak.
I am a Devils fan but IMO it’s the best goal song in Hockey.Now it's 2 points, because it's a power play goal. I prefer the NYR on the road, because after they score I don't have to hear that annoying goal song.
I like this move by the Rangers. Motte played well in the playoffs last year. Really good on the PK, good 4th line depth. He’s a +1 with Ottawa (a -10 team).
I get it. Looking at some of the other local sports threads, the sniping gets real obnoxious real fast. Trolling is probably the most boring of all messageboard pastimes. So, maybe sending us to opposite corners is worth it there.
But, I don’t see a need for that for us hockey fans. The vast majority here are true gentlemen. @Ronnie_B , @krup , @robcac26 , @zappaa, @rurichdog and many, many more. These guys can’t be more polar opposites in their fandom, but they all know their stuff, honest as all hell, and any thread would be the worse without all those voices. And we all seem to self regulate pretty well here - the goofballs get called out pretty quick. I like it like this. At our core, we have RU to keep us all together. Plus, EVERY hockey local has felt some pain for their team over the years. We can always commiserate over that, haha.
That said, wait for the playoffs, lol. Might get kinda nasty in a fun way. Ever since PHI/NYI, then NJD, came on the scene, there is NOTHING like few rounds where the locals face off. Add some OT games, and we are all in for a real treat. Hoping at least one more local gets in, it should be a real doozy….
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He did score last night but i do mostly agree. He goes long stretches where hes invisible.
But those are all INDIVIDUAL team threads.
The outsiders are the ones who ruin it. Same suspects in this one.
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Wolfpack live on nhl network rn. Game just started. Most interested in seeing Robertson, jones, rydahl and rempe. Obviously cuylle as well and wanna see how bobby trivigno looks
Like I said earlier in the thread. He’s not the player he once was.
Still a nice piece for the rangers who have a lot of players who are difference makers.
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Well, heres the big difference, hes not really getting PP time with nyr. If you actually dive deeper into his stats, granted its only 5 games into his NYR tenure, however if he were to keep this pace itd be the best hes ever been at 5v5 in his entire career. So he is the same player point/goal production wise, in fact hes actually better than hes ever been.
For example, last year 2021-2022 was the best year of tank’s career (which is why saying hes past his prime years is kindve an absurd statement). In 2021-2022 at 5v5 Tank had 26 goals in 976 minutes of time on ice. This year with NYR he has 2 goals in 70 minutes at 5v5.
Anyway, still love the trade but I want to see him on the PP. He has a lethal shot and put him in the slot in the pp in chytil/trochecks position and let him do his thing
This is just not true. He has 32 points, 9 on the PP.
23 5v5 points in more than half the season is no where near his best. Not sure we’re you’re getting your stats
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Still not true. 3 5v5 points in 5 games with the rangers. That’s about a 45 5v5 pace per 82 games.
Certainly not his best. I may be misunderstanding
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His career best was 26 goals at 5v5 (last year 21-22 season). He has 2 5v5 goals in 5 games with the rangers. Which is on pace for the best of his career. But again, as I said, its super early, hes 5 games into a new team, new system, no preseason, still getting adjusted etc.
Further, the better stat to make it even is per 60, in which again he is actually pacing for the best of his career in his FIVE games with the rangers. Again, its too early and too small a sample size so we shall see. If he was getting PP time on PP1 her be playing ppg imo
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Fyi, only two seasons in tanks career did he post more than 45 points 5v5.
Currently, again just FIVE (so too small a sample size) games into his NYR tenure he is pacing for the most goals he will have ever scored 5v5 per game in his career
You’re doing goals. I was doing points. You’re correct with goals…he’s on a career pace 5v5. I was doing points. He isn’t: