Nevermind.... looked it up. Yes, it did have a split fairway. Looks like it changed 2014-2015
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Nevermind.... looked it up. Yes, it did have a split fairway. Looks like it changed 2014-2015
PGA players might have got a boost in pay because of the compitition paying out big bucks, but they chose to stay for PGA and don't need to thank anyone or any organization for making good bucks based on the talent they have.
Chris Gotterup Korn Ferry update.....
After shooting a +2 in his first round he needed a good round to make the cut. He was -4 on his 2nd round and -2 for the tourney after 16 but a bogey on the Par 5 17th put him right on the cut line. A Par on 18 left him at -1, good enough to make the weekend. 2nd time in 4 outings that he's made the cut right on the number.
After shooting a +2 in his first round he needed a good round to make the cut. He was -4 on his 2nd round and -2 for the tourney after 16 but a bogey on the Par 5 17th put him right on the cut line. A Par on 18 left him at -1, good enough to make the weekend. 2nd time in 4 outings that he's made the cut right on the number.
No one mentioned that Tiger is in the field next week at Riviera.
Probably just sold a couple thou extra tickets.
Probably just sold a couple thou extra tickets.
Don't be a clown. After Tiger, Rory is far and away the biggest name in the golf world followed by Spieth.
Cam and DJ say hello. You know, two golfers that actually have won somewhat recent majors. Spieth is a slightly better version of David Duval. Mr. Yips 2.0.
Spieth has won 3 Majors, Rory 4.
DJ has won 2 in a longer career. Smith, who's the same age as Spieth, 1.
Agree, and who cares if it is?
Posters expressing disdain for this clearly aren’t confident in their own “manhood”.
I’ll take Scotty Scheffler and John Rahm over all of the above.
They may be in the final group today as players finish up their 2nd rounds this morning.
Wake me up when Rory doesn't choke in a big spot or Spieth gets over his mental issues.
DJ and Cam are bigger names now.
Cam Smith is in no way a bigger name than Rory McIlroy in golf. Dude, LOL. I know you want LIV to succeed and the PGA to get theirs but let's not get nut balls here.
Golf fans can argue all they want about which tour has the better players.
Maybe even argue over which tour has more future stars signed up.
But the facts point out that the PGA is the more solid tour and the LIV's future is not assured even with the Saudis financially backing it and CW TV letting them have a spot on that newwork in a revenue sharing way and not paying for the product like most TV rights are done
Maybe even argue over which tour has more future stars signed up.
But the facts point out that the PGA is the more solid tour and the LIV's future is not assured even with the Saudis financially backing it and CW TV letting them have a spot on that newwork in a revenue sharing way and not paying for the product like most TV rights are done
Chris Gotterup, who in case anyone is wondering says "Rutgers" in his Korn Ferry profile, shot a 2nd 3 under 68 in a row today. He didn't have a Par until the 6th hole, ending the day with 6 Birds and 3 Bogs. The 68 moved him from T62 to T31. The field is so bunched he's 1 stroke out of a tie for 26th and 2 from a tie for 15th.
Looks like it’ll be an exciting finish. Rahm and Scheffler can win and be #1 in the world. Great to see Ricky and Day back in contention. The throwing crap on 16th has jump the shark. It was cool to see the unexpected reaction but now everyone is just looking to throw ****. I guess it’s good for the tournament sponsor to see them in action.
Gotterup shot a final round -2, 69. He finished T28. After 2 events he stood around 99th in the Korn Ferry Rankings. Now after 4 events he's moved up to 46th. Needs to keep moving in the positive direction.
I believe the Tour now takes a month break.
I believe the Tour now takes a month break.
Tiger this week... Misses the cut, makes the cut, or WDs?
I'm going with misses.
I'm going with misses.
One more derailment post—anyone a member or played Battleground in Manalapan? I am considering joining and would love any input.
Was one of my favorite courses to play in NJ. Not a particularly long course but beautiful and fun to play. It's been 10+ years since I've been there but a friend still plays there a few times a year. Certainly not a derailment post (if it was Masters week then it would be lol)
Appreciate the feedback. I thought the facilities were very nice and I think I may sign on this week. Was told to check out eagle oaks as well but thinking that’ll be much higher price tag.
You should check out Pine Valley. Kind of a hidden gem that doesn't get a lot of play, so tee times are not an issue. Might be out of your way a little, but it would be worth it.
If you took a look at the financials of both tours, your mindset would completely change. Here's the reality, the money ALWAYS wins in the long run.
@Caliknight,
How difficult is Riviera CC to walk? Will Tiger have trouble walking 4 days in a row there if he makes the cut?
How difficult is Riviera CC to walk? Will Tiger have trouble walking 4 days in a row there if he makes the cut?
how much did the LIV bring in .
Saudi money is keeping it afloat right now with the hope the CW Network commercial revenue sharing and streaming will make it earn enough so the Saudi's don't pull the plug.
I believe the Saudis will keep pouring money down the drain , but will keep doing so until eventually the PGA feels the money it's taking to fight the LIV isn't worth it and both tours go to the table and negotiate a deal they both can live with and come out working together instead of trying to topple the other..
Would like to know if your "the financials of both tours" is based on profit or backing.
If profit, I feel the PGA has the financial advantage.
Backing keeps the LIV going.
You want to borrow my sarcasm meter?Pine Valley??can you be his member sponsor?
LIV makes no money. The governor of the Saudi fund basically commented that LIV failed to meet the initial expectations. That's right around the time LIV COO quit. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall.
There are reports LIV was expecting to get a real TV deal and they failed to do so getting the CW deal which CW won't pay for the broadcast or pay for production.
The PGA Tour is sustainable as it's a real business with real revenue generation, infrastructure, etc. LIV is a start up with an investor who easily could blow the whole thing up if LIV doesn't make real progress real soon. You say money ALWAYS wins but one has real and sustainable cash flow from massive TV deals, ticket sales, significant sponsorships, etc and one has an investor who if they don't see real progress in a few years could give the bird to the whole thing.
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If you don't mind me asking...roughly, you don't need to be exact, what is the initiation for Battleground and what are the monthly dues? I'm starting my search for a spot in Monmouth County... trying to get a feel for it. The places near me, Navesink, Rumson, Beacon have all jacked prices up since covid and there is a legit waitlist at most places.
5 entry because I fall in the young professional category then 6/yr dues plus 2 food and beverage.
Let’s say you have a bagel store that’s doing nice business. I open one next to you and give away bagels for free.
My business is trash, I’m burning cash by opening the store every morning. Let’s say I’ve got deep pockets and your pockets are only as deep as the success of your operations.
If my bagels are good enough (and they don’t have to be as good as yours), my cash-burning model will draw your customers to me: I’m disrupting your business. The former soundness of your model no longer matters. I’ll monetize my bagels when your shop closes.
When new entrants in a space have liquidity to withstand losses and willingness to absorb them, they can be very destructive to existing business.
I don’t know how it will play out, but I wouldn’t count out LIV just because they’re burning money. Sometimes that’s the point.
Said this from the start. I don't care how much cash the Saudi's have, they aren't going to continue funding an investment with no return. It's simply bad business.