I wonder if this is less about the PAC staying together and more about the B1G getting cold feet.
OT: B10 expands/PAC B12 TBD
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Yeah, I get it. But scheduling 1 West coast game per year not a big deal. Scheduling 2 or 3 per year, and then considering hoops and all the non-revenue sports, and it gets expensive and puts a lot of pressure and takes a lot of time away from the student athletes, who, mostly, except for a handful, are students first, and athletes second. Think about the number of football and hoops players who will actually move to the next level of pro sports, and it is not many. I'm sure I will get killed by some for my line of thinking.
Maybe there will. Maybe there wont. Regardless, if they sign a GOR, they will be locked in again for a bit. Again, making decisions as an individual school with better options based on the sentiments for a conference on life support is short-sighted decision making IMO.
Well the B10 moving was still predicated on Arizona/ASU/Utah. So those schools had to be the first dominoes regardless of how the B10 felt. If they don't fall, the B10 wasn't going to act.
if you have enough schools, no reason the Olympic sports cant play in regional pods. It doesnt have to be a one size fits all answer for all sports. Football and MBB vs the rest might look quite different from a scheduling perspective
I think this is much simpler than a lot of you are making it. I don't think this is about Washington/Oregon making a bad decision not to jump. Washington/Oregon have been trying to jump to the Big Ten at least as long ago as the USC/UCLA departure. But the Big Ten is too busy digesting the latter two schools to want to take on more at this time. There's an additional problem with taking UNC or UVA: One can be liable for inducing a breach of contract, and so there is no way the Big Ten goes near any ACC school as long as the ACC's GOR is in force.
Yea..this is crazy…changing by the minute. Rumors that Arizona might now leave now when it was considered a done deal. That changes everything.
No conference will go near a school that isn't free and clear. But looks like FSU with an outside the box move might try to use private equity money to help fund getting out of their GOR. I posted it in the FSU thread.
That would be something to see lol.
Arizona decided to leave last night, but ASU is blocking them since the ABOR wants to keep them together in the same conference or at least both have strong landing spots (i.e. one in B12, other in B1G)
Wonder if the Pac12 is offering uneven revenue shares…which would be lipstick on a pig. Can’t see Oregon or Arizona signing a GOR with the Pac12 and leaving all that money on the table.
Hoping the PAC 12 stays together because the college sports landscape is better of with The Conference of Champions remaining at least in its current form (less USC, UCLA and Colorado) than being destroyed by sheer greed.
Staying would be stupid for any teams with options. What do they is think going to happen to their brand value with most of their games unwatched on Apple TV? Do they think ESPN and Fox will pay more for them in 6 years to reappear on linear TV?
One rumor I posted just now is that Oregon State and Washington State are willing to take reduced shares and give it to Oregon and Washington.
Agree. Secure your future now, or degrade your program for the next 6 years and hope someone throws you a lifeline then? How does that makes sense?
Band-aid and unsustainable but OSU and WSU are desperate.
If the rumors are true, the B1G blue bloods were not on board.
Care to share wtf ABOR stands for ?
Arizona Board of Regents. I think one board oversees both schools as well as Northern Arizona.
I'm not so sure if you see the Auerbach tweet and the Thamel one above. Sounds like the B10 might try to sweeten the pot.
edit: should amend that and say it's probably Fox pushing from behind to some degree
I know B1G doesn't want to be the "bad guy who breaks up the PAC" but they should offer a backroom wink to ASU as a travel partner for USC and UCLA and bring along them and Stanford along with Oregon/Washington and allow Arizona/Utah to "break up the PAC" by jumping to BXII.
ASU has hockey and top 10 wrestling
ASU has hockey and top 10 wrestling
If the Big Ten needs to expand and Oregon and Washington are off the table then go for UNC and UVA as they would fit in academically (putting aside the no show classes from the past) plus they would be a good fit from a non-revenue sports perspective. Lacrosse for one would be a nice fit. Not to mention they have good baseball programs.
I wonder if the news with FSU possibly buying out their GOR using PE money might not have spurred the B10 (Fox in the background) to get to 20 in one fell swoop with Oregon/Washington/FSU and I'm not sure who #20 will be.
Honestly who cares who makes the first move? Has that really been relevant or had any implacations to date? I don't see it. If I am a Pac 12 school with a chance to move now and secure my future, I look out for myself over the interests of a dying conference. If Arizona or Utah allow the AAU President, who is more out of touch with reality than the old Big East leadership, to impact their movement, their leadership should be fired for negligence.
FSU isn't the only ACC school that can raise a lot of money, and the ACC will not want to set a precedent of letting a school out. So the ACC would demand a huge price. Note that for all of the talk of suing to break the GOR, no one has actually done it -- that may say something about the odds of success.
BTW, speaking as someone who went to high school in Central Florida in the 1960s, I find it hysterically funny that the University of South Florida, a poor relation then, has made it to the AAU ahead of FSU.
There's something else here: the Big Ten would look bad leaving Cal and Stanford stranded, and the Big Ten does not want to take all four schools.
won't dissolve, they'd keep the PAC name and poach from the MWC and AAC which in turn will poach from CUSA.
Oregon, Washington to Join Big Ten, Leave Pac-12
Check out Brett McMurphy's report on Oregon and Washington joining the Big Ten and leaving the Pac-12 in the latest realignment move.
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Done deal?