In virtually all countries of Western Europe you can find areas that are predominately Muslim in the major cities. We have the same here. That does not mean that they, or us, are about to become Muslim countries. You can go to vast areas over there where there are virtually no Muslims. The Muslims tend to cluster in the biggest cities with their own. Even there they are vastly outnumbered overall.1. Not true - You can look through this list and see that most of them are not Muslim:
Also, the mayor of London, for example, while Muslim was born in Britain and lived his whole life there. He isn't an immigrant.
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2. The math just doesn't work for what you're alleging. The birthrates and immigration numbers just aren't what they need to be for the United Kingdom, whose population is nearly 70,000,000 and currently 6% Muslim to reach 50% in the next few decades. You've bought into some hype without working it out on your own to check it.
OT: British lowered voting age....
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We are not maintaining. Our birth rate is well below fertility. The population is still able to grow through immigration. Basically every developed country is in decline though, and even ignoring the problems that come with trying to utilize third world immigrants to maintain the population, every country can't rely on that. You basically have Africa, a few central american and south american countries, some middle eastern countries, and some southeast asian countries (not, notably, India, which has now fallen below replacement levels).
Presumably at some point it will switch and the people left will come from cultures that promote good sized families, but it coudl be really bad before that point.
In 2023 the world population growth rate was 0.9% increasing not decreasing
we have a long way to go before we need to worry about population numbers
No, but it does mean you know more about rural Hungary than I do. I couldn't say anything about that country because I know next to nothing about it. We have friends in the UK, people we are in contact with multiple times weekly. We have had family that lived there. I also read some of their news sites, including some LOCAL ones that only report local stuff, daily. Those local ones give a better feel for how things really are. There is an awful lot of misinformation in this thread that is just plain silly.
Well, a lot of their illegal immigrates right now are coming in small boats from France. Remember all those Cubans down in Florida? The Channel is a lot narrower than the Straights of Florida.
My college age kid doesn't understand that the AC doesn't produce cooler air when it's on 65 vs. when it's on 72, but I'm sure he would take a reasoned approach to vetting candidates and referenda.to 16 years of age. Thoughts on this?
UK to lower voting age to 16 by next general election
The United Kingdom’s voting reform represented the biggest change to the electorate since 1969.www.semafor.com
I would say for sure one of the criteria should be eligibility for a wartime draft. If you're old enough to be drafted you're old enough to vote. If you're not old enough to be drafted then there's a debate as to whether or not you're old enough to vote. Of course if you pay taxes there's another debate that you're old enough to vote.
Would this include payroll taxes for people who make below the minimum to file a return?
Immigration under Johnson increased, one reason why he stepped down: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...son-tories-allowed-migrants-in-stack-shelves/
I'm over 65 still paying substantial income tax, property tax, sales tax etc etc etc. Absolve me of those and you can take me off the "rolls" . LOL
But you could know way more about Hungary than me if you were educated on it. Even without going there and with me having gone.
visiting a country doesn’t make you more knowledgeable than someone else. If you have spent years in the UK in that last 5 to 10? Ok. But you haven’t.
Narrower should make it easier to identify and stop them but I wouldn’t expect you to understand that
We have a president with the vocabulary of a middle schooler, he can't seem to speak in complete sentences without changing thoughts and we have millions of adults of voting age who believe some of the most monumentally stupid things. Maybe we should lower our voting age to 16. BTW, I can't wait until his brain is 81-years-old. Peak performance indeed.
This but a lot of adults don’t understand that AC either.
they think 65 setting is blowing 65 degree air and 75 setting is blowing 75 degree air.
Guatantee someone reading these posts think that as well.
I was mainly poking at the 24 on the ACT part of that post.
Also, although a lot of folks might not consider it "paying taxes", plenty of the people they don't want to vote pay income tax via payroll taxes. These are the working poor. So, basically what they're advocating for is a return to property-based voting rights, which is just one shade away from what we had about 150 years ago.
And we just came off of a "shadow presidency" that was probably the biggest deception of the American public in our history.
Birthrates are declining all over. Mexico's fertility rate is below ours and below replacement. Sub-Saharan Africa still has the highest fertility rates. Low fertility rates will put an enormous strain on retirement and medical systems. Perhaps we should tax the childless and obese more to pay for shortfalls.
Yes we did. Maybe Wilson's last year was worse but Dems, and their allies in the press did lie and conceal the truth about his cognitive decline. I highly recommend not voting for anyone for president over the age of 70. We could have had DeSantis and a lot less drama, vulgar non-normative behavior and uncertainty
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Not disputing what you are saying as I haven't looked at it, but there can be a lot of demographic change baked in. China's demographic problem doesn't look terrible now, but the reality is they are probably cooked. Just too long with an idiotic one child policy and can't 'fix the damage done when people now in their 40's to 50's were in their 20's and 30's.
It's not so easy to extrapolate behavioral trends into the future, so it's entirely possible if not likely that muslim birth rates will converge towards non-muslim birth rates in the future, but a generation that is 10% muslim having significantly higher birthrates than non-muslims can't create a majorty, but they can basically guarantee that it swings significantly, even if it takes 20-30 years to really show up in a quick glance at demographic statistics.
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The discussion was specifically about the US, and higher populations in africa will not prevent the US and other developed countries outside of Africa from having some pretty significant hardships. The US probably could defer the recknoning indefinitely just be being hospitable and welcoming to high skilled immigrants and having some reasonable quota for unskilled immigrants. But that's not a formula everyone in the world can follow.
Props for the very subtle misogynistic argument against women being allowed to vote.**
It’s everyone’s. You just don’t realize it.
What happens when the people in power have a different view of what’s racist?
If we maintain the current birth rate in the USA compared to death rate, what’s gonna happen in the next 20 to 40 years?
be very specific.
While it wasn't for the presidency the worst I ever saw was Thad Cochran' s last election. Not saying it was such a bad thing for the State of Mississippi but the poor guy didn't know what planet he was on.
Brilliant. Four words. I'm always impressed with your intellectual prowess. Dude speaks your language, doesn't he?
I’m always impressed by people who care more about words than actions and results.
it’s like yall forgot bill Clinton got a blow job in the oval office and stuck a cigar in an interns pu$$y
but economy was great and things were pretty damn good
in hindsight I don’t give a 17
Interesting that you don't even realize you did a "what about Bill Clinton" and think that's some sort of check mate or that anyone actually forgot about the BJ. FYI, it's not words, it's actual thoughts that matter. I'm a bit surprised you left out Hillary's emails and Hunter's laptop. Reading your posts convinces me that lowering the voting age to 16 isn't really a big deal.
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It was bad. Basically he got elected at the same stage that Biden was in when he got pushed out.
I find it completely believable that Cochran would have signed off on the way that was handled when he was still of sound mind, so I don't necessarily think anybody involved should have been in jail or anything, but in reality what his handlers and what Biden's handlers did were much more aptly described as elder abuse than what the weirdos trying to take pictures of Cochran's wife did. Those people should have been charged with trespassing and been publicly shamed and embarrassed rather than stretching the elder abuse statute to hit them with a felony.
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