OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY

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RU4Real

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By that definition, so are you. However, we all know where Bennies come from. It's in the name itself! LOL.

Negative there, Ghost Rider. If you work emergency services anywhere in Monmouth County you get a card that says "Not A Bennie". It's good for life.
 

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I knew that would get a rise out of someone.

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35 is good. But agree that’s a nice DMZ too. Parkway it too far away IMO.
You have said this before, but not sure I agree. See below. Growing up, did you live East or West of Route 35?
You are correct!

The Shore should be it's own designated region, and only towns bordering a navigable waterway to to the Atlantic Ocean are shore towns. Navigable means motorboat. Howell, Freehold, Jackson, etc do not count as Shore towns.
I have filed a petition with the State to declare the Shore region as I defined it above in an earlier thread.

Wikipedia sort of agrees with me.
"Geographically, the term encompasses about 141 miles (227 km)[1] of oceanfront bordering the Atlantic Ocean, from Perth Amboy in the north to Cape May Point in the south. The region includes Middlesex, Monmouth, Ocean, Atlantic, and Cape May counties, which are in the central and southern parts of the state."

Note that Red Bank is included. So is Oceanport. Why Wall is not listed, IDK. 🤷‍♂️ But bordered by TWO navigable waterways on the north (Shark River) and south (Manasquan River), Wall, like Oceanport, Red Bank and Rumson, are shore towns.

So should Brielle, Pt. Pleasant Boro, Brick, Toms River, Lacey Township, Berkeley Township, Barnegat, Stafford Townswhip, etc.

Middletown is included, as it includes Sandy Hook, but it does not have any residential real estate, so does that count?

Nor does Tinton Falls.

IMO its east of 35 and not the Parkway for the border of that region.
From an earlier thread- you may not be right, but you are consistent, and you get points for that!😜
 

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I live down the shore. When I see stupid **** like "Benny go home" I wonder if these idiots have a clue as to why businesses can close for 6 months of the year and their taxes aren't 3x what they are.
How many close? Around here the only ones are those that cater to the beach crowd specifically. 3x? Please. The 2021 average property tax in NJ was less than $10k. I know I pay more than that.
 
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I live down the shore. When I see stupid **** like "Benny go home" I wonder if these idiots have a clue as to why businesses can close for 6 months of the year and their taxes aren't 3x what they are.
I get it to a degree. We went a house to summer visitors. IMO "Bennys" or Bennies" are visitors who come to the area, are rude, loud, litter and genearally are disrespectful slobs. They were epitomized by the idiot cast of the Jersey Shore MTV series. Visitors are welcome, but respect the locals and the area. We get it that some visit to have fun. But don't be an ahole.
 

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How many close? Around here the only ones are those that cater to the beach crowd specifically. 3x? Please. The 2021 average property tax in NJ was less than $10k. I know I pay more than that.
BTW, I see the property that includes The Breeze on Ocean Ave is for sale for a mere $1.9M. Thinking of buying it, getting a liquor license and calling it Osprey North. You want in? 😜
 

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WTF?

You forgot me!
No I did not. You can manage the operation, or we can have knightfan do that and you manage the bar.
Drove right by you today on our way back from Tilly's after picking up flowers. Nice selection there.
 

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No I did not. You can manage the operation, or we can have knightfan do that and you manage the bar.
Drove right by you today on our way back from Tilly's after picking up flowers. Nice selection there.

Should have stopped and helped me weed my flower beds while the ducks stared at us while using my pool.
 
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You can run the bar, but we need a cooler like Dalton in the movie Roadhouse. Maybe @RU4Real ?
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From Ocean County..

Was always told "benny" was for

Bayonne
Elizabeth
Newark
New York (which most took to mean Staten Island).

Have no idea what SHOEBIE meant when I was down in LBI and points south. I knew they were from Philly area.. and, in general, I found them to be a better kind of crowd. I'd take a SHOEBIE invasion over a BENNY invasion 8 days a week... and I was born a BENNY!

And @Knight Shift , Wall extends too far west to be thought of as "shore".. which must piss off those living east of 18 on the Shark River. But when most people come across Wall.. they see it is pretty far west. When you get to Wall on a drive down the shore, you just don't think you are almost there.. even though you might turn onto Belmar Blvd.. in WALL.. and get that feeling.
 
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From Ocean County..

Was always told "benny" was for

Bayonne
Elizabeth
Newark
New York (which most took to mean Staten Island).

Have no idea what SHOEBIE meant when I was down in LBI and points south. I knew they were from Philly area.. and, in general, I found them to be a better kind of crowd. I'd take a SHOEBIE invasion over a BENNY invasion 8 days a week... and I was born a BENNY!

And @Knight Shift , Wall extends too far west to be thought of as "shore".. which must piss off those living east of 18 on the Shark River. But when most people come across Wall.. they see it is pretty far west. When you get to Wall on a drive down the shore, you just don't think you are almost there.. even though you might turn onto Belmar Blvd.. in WALL.. and get that feeling.
Definitely heard this version plenty times before, but mostly with Bergen and Essex. SHOEBIEs are the Philly version, but those people are easily avoided since most just go to Wildwood.
 

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You have said this before, but not sure I agree. See below. Growing up, did you live East or West of Route 35?

I have filed a petition with the State to declare the Shore region as I defined it above in an earlier thread.

Wikipedia sort of agrees with me.
"Geographically, the term encompasses about 141 miles (227 km)[1] of oceanfront bordering the Atlantic Ocean, from Perth Amboy in the north to Cape May Point in the south. The region includes Middlesex, Monmouth, Ocean, Atlantic, and Cape May counties, which are in the central and southern parts of the state."

Note that Red Bank is included. So is Oceanport. Why Wall is not listed, IDK. 🤷‍♂️ But bordered by TWO navigable waterways on the north (Shark River) and south (Manasquan River), Wall, like Oceanport, Red Bank and Rumson, are shore towns.

So should Brielle, Pt. Pleasant Boro, Brick, Toms River, Lacey Township, Berkeley Township, Barnegat, Stafford Townswhip, etc.

Middletown is included, as it includes Sandy Hook, but it does not have any residential real estate, so does that count?


From an earlier thread- you may not be right, but you are consistent, and you get points for that!😜
I am, as your research has proved it. 😉

Some say it starts as soon as the other side of the Driscoll Bridge. I don’t know about that, but there is water so…more of an ocean than bay I think is what many think when they hear “shore” mentioned.

So parts, parts only, of many of those places listed above would qualify. Wall for instance is a great example of this…West Belmar section, Yes. Collingswood/Allenwood, not so much.🤷‍♂️

To expand on what @GoodOl'Rutgers said, I explained above here…parts of places do qualify but maybe not all the municipality.

Which is what I also meant with regards to the evolution of the “B word” over time…the E has been used for Essex, Elizabeth and now Everyone else. 😛
 
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Is someone who grew up in shore town but moved to north jersey a Benny or are they grandfathered?

Is a stereotypical Benny who moves to a shore town no longer a Benny?
 

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Is someone who grew up in shore town but moved to north jersey a Benny or are they grandfathered?

Is a stereotypical Benny who moves to a shore town no longer a Benny?
The story my grandfather told was he lived here for almost twenty years and still was referred to as "the guy who bought so-and-so's house". His 2nd wife was immediately accepted back because she grew up here but him? Not so much.
 

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The way it was told to me many, many years ago (and it's not a Philly thing, btw) was that the Bennies used to bring their lunches to the beach in shoe boxes. So, "shoebie".
Via rail if memory serves me correctly.
 
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The way it was told to me many, many years ago (and it's not a Philly thing, btw) was that the Bennies used to bring their lunches to the beach in shoe boxes. So, "shoebie".

That's the story I heard. Going way back to a time when people took the train to the shore.
 
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Shoobie has a Wikipedia entry:

slang term for a tourist who visits the seashore for a day (a daytripper) or summer-only residents. Shoobie is used in the Southern New Jersey coast (along with other parts of the east coast), and resort towns in California. The term "shoobie" originated in the late 1800s, and it derives from daytrippers taking the train to the New Jersey beach, with their ticket price including a boxed lunch packed in a shoe box.[1] Later it was used to refer to anyone who brought a picnic lunch to the beach resorts. Either way, these daytrippers deprived local businesses of the revenue the tourists would have spent on food. Homeowners (whether year-round or seasonal) often walk to the beach barefoot or remove their shoes immediately upon reaching the sand.[2] Similar terms are "Benny," which is mostly used in the Monmouth County and northern Ocean County resort towns of the Jersey Shore.


Looks like I nailed "Benny" down pretty well:

"Benny is a pejorative term used by year-round residents of the Jersey Shore to describe stereotypically rude, flashy, loud tourists from North Jersey and New York."

@RU4Real - "North Jersey" - would include Montgomery?


 

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@RU4Real - "North Jersey" - would include Montgomery?

A lot of people would argue, but iMO the very first criteria for "Central Jersey" has to be that any location is on the coastal plain, i.e. south of the line of maximum glacial advance. Montgomery Twp. is squarely in the Piedmont geological province. Not "Central Jersey".
 
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Shoobie has a Wikipedia entry:

slang term for a tourist who visits the seashore for a day (a daytripper) or summer-only residents. Shoobie is used in the Southern New Jersey coast (along with other parts of the east coast), and resort towns in California. The term "shoobie" originated in the late 1800s, and it derives from daytrippers taking the train to the New Jersey beach, with their ticket price including a boxed lunch packed in a shoe box.[1] Later it was used to refer to anyone who brought a picnic lunch to the beach resorts. Either way, these daytrippers deprived local businesses of the revenue the tourists would have spent on food. Homeowners (whether year-round or seasonal) often walk to the beach barefoot or remove their shoes immediately upon reaching the sand.[2] Similar terms are "Benny," which is mostly used in the Monmouth County and northern Ocean County resort towns of the Jersey Shore.


Looks like I nailed "Benny" down pretty well:

"Benny is a pejorative term used by year-round residents of the Jersey Shore to describe stereotypically rude, flashy, loud tourists from North Jersey and New York."

@RU4Real - "North Jersey" - would include Montgomery?


Told ya.

The E encompasses Everyone else.🙂

Which would obviously include Somerset County.
 
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