Not surprised he was traded either...kinda surprising that Florida went all in on him and he agreed to go there.Originally posted by mikemarc1:
Guess signaling Lou Lamoriello is giving up on the season.
Not bad return for him..I was hoping for a 3rd round pick..but the Panthers gave up a 2nd round pick this season..and a 3rd round pick next year. Nice get for NJ.
I haven't been happy with Lou in over 10 years but gave him a 10 year untouchable status after the last cup. Its now been 13 years and outside of a lucky run in 2012 the Devils haven't done anything.Originally posted by Jumba72:
You guys are nuts. Lou still has some mulligans left. Besides, its not like he's had an open checkbook to work with.
How many times we have to discuss this? Lou didn't "let" Parise go. IIRC, he was offered the same money Minn offered. Clarkson ? Please. The guy wanted way too much money for what he was, a gritty winger who had one good year. Can't blame LL for letting that one go. Neids wanted to play with his brother. Rafalski is from MI so LL was up against it there. Can't argue about Clowe and some of the other FA signings. All teams lose FA and all teams sign some flops, not just the Devils. IMHO, Lou's biggest blunder was screwing around and getting caught trying to work around the cap to sign Kovalchuk. That cost the Devils a high first round pick and one or two other lower picks ( a 3rd and a 4th, IIRC).Originally posted by apgoosebumps:
I haven't been happy with Lou in over 10 years but gave him a 10 year untouchable status after the last cup. Its now been 13 years and outside of a lucky run in 2012 the Devils haven't done anything.Originally posted by Jumba72:
You guys are nuts. Lou still has some mulligans left. Besides, its not like he's had an open checkbook to work with.
1. Letting Parise walk away for nothing- If he thought there was any chance of not signing him you trade him for multiple first round picks in todays NHL!!!!
2. In addition hes let Clarkson, Nidermayer, Raflaski, Gionta, Paul Martin walk away for nothing
2. Terrible free agent signings over the past decade Clowe, Ryder, Volchenkov, Tallinder to name a few
3. Giving Zajac a big contract and resigning Salvador for 3 years
4. Drafting has been terrible. We have zero forwards in the system
Today's trade is one of the best moves Lou has made in years!!!
I'd like to see how Stefan Matteau develops before I kill LL for that. I always wondered, at what point did LL have to declare he was forfeiting that pick ? Was it before the draft began or as late as when you're on the clock to pick a player ? If it's the latter, perhaps Lou saw a guy like Matteau as being long gone by pick 30, saw great value and decided to go for it. If that was the case, I can't kill him.Originally posted by tuffer76:
Great trade for Devils. They got great value for a 43 year old rental. I've questioned Lou in the last couple of years but I think recently his moves have been better. He had a rough spell with the Zajac contract, not forfeiting the pick in the Stanley Cup year, etc. problem is the team is so old up front and no youth in the system. All prospects are defenseman and he's going to havevtobtrade one or two to get young skill guys.
Florida needs a playoff birth to breathe some life into the "fan base". They're only 2 points out of a playoff birth although Boston has a game in hand. I think they'll fall short because they have a fairly difficult schedule starting in two weeks. They play Buffalo, Tampa, Toronto, Dallas, Islanders, Winnipeg, and Carolina before the schedule gets much tougher. They need at least 9 points in these 7 games to have a chance.Originally posted by mikemarc1:
Not surprised he was traded either...kinda surprising that Florida went all in on him and he agreed to go there.Originally posted by mikemarc1:
Guess signaling Lou Lamoriello is giving up on the season.
Not bad return for him..I was hoping for a 3rd round pick..but the Panthers gave up a 2nd round pick this season..and a 3rd round pick next year. Nice get for NJ.
It's not like they're a lock for the playoffs. i thought he'd go somewhere guaranteed a spot. Not complaining though.
Time for the rebuild. Hopefully Zidlicky and Ryder are the next to go.
How many times we have to discuss this? Lou didn't "let" Parise go. IIRC, he was offered the same money Minn offered. Clarkson ? Please. The guy wanted way too much money for what he was, a gritty winger who had one good year. Can't blame LL for letting that one go. Neids wanted to play with his brother. Rafalski is from MI so LL was up against it there. Can't argue about Clowe and some of the other FA signings. All teams lose FA and all teams sign some flops, not just the Devils. IMHO, Lou's biggest blunder was screwing around and getting caught trying to work around the cap to sign Kovalchuk. That cost the Devils a high first round pick and one or two other lower picks ( a 3rd and a 4th, IIRC).
I disagree with you on Parise as well. Looking back, it obviously did not work the way that we, (Devils Fans) wanted it to work out but hindsight is 20/20. The fact is that Parise was very close to resigning with the Devils and I am not sure if you know this but so was Ryan Suter. There have been numerous reports that both Parise and Suter were talking to Brodeur about signing to play for the Devils. If things worked that way, we would be sitting here praising Lou about the move instead of arguing about it.Originally posted by apgoosebumps:
You're missing my point... it doesn't matter what we offered Parise, Lou should have gotten rid of him once there was a high chance he was going to hit UFA status. (which was obvious the year before when he only signed a one year deal).
It pains me to say this but Lou should take a page out of Sather's book. Once Sather realizes a player is not going to sign for what he wants to offer, Sather trades him for something before they inevitably reach UFA status. (Dubinsky, Callahan, and now its rumored he is shopping Zuc)
How many times we have to discuss this? Lou didn't "let" Parise go. IIRC, he was offered the same money Minn offered. Clarkson ? Please. The guy wanted way too much money for what he was, a gritty winger who had one good year. Can't blame LL for letting that one go. Neids wanted to play with his brother. Rafalski is from MI so LL was up against it there. Can't argue about Clowe and some of the other FA signings. All teams lose FA and all teams sign some flops, not just the Devils. IMHO, Lou's biggest blunder was screwing around and getting caught trying to work around the cap to sign Kovalchuk. That cost the Devils a high first round pick and one or two other lower picks ( a 3rd and a 4th, IIRC).