Appreciate the reminder on this. I almost always forget to use the voice controls. Sadly, the open/close butthole commands are not longer available.
OT: Electric vehicles
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Appreciate the reminder on this. I almost always forget to use the voice controls. Sadly, the open/close butthole commands are not longer available.
I missed the initiate handjob command. I change my mind best car ever, don’t tell the wife.
I remember you saying this earlier, but my "open butthole" command still working.
Yeah, but Bernie's (and the author's) "fair" share is most of the world's confiscatory. I'll stop now to keep the thread alive, but I could keep going long enough to make "War and Peace" look like a short story.
He’s on the West Coast. He obviously hasn’t been to the mid-west because good luck finding a single Tesla at the OH State Fair or a NASCAR race.
statistically speaking, you'll find some. now, you would have to do some additional whittling down of the target audiences at a nascar race and a state fair, however, the Texas state fair is probably the largest, and I'm assuming that some of those 50k+ EV owners will be going.
I'm actually surprised at the numbers for NJ. The eye test, at least where I live, would suggest that there are a whole lot more than 30k EV's on the road. But that's probably locally biased.
The breakdown on NJ between NYC/Philly suburbs and the rest of the state would be interesting. For the rest of the country, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota and Montana (and their probable plethora of charging stations) suggest 100% EVs by 2035 might be a bit ambitious.
it's very ambitious and probably unrealistic. those very very rural areas will not be prioritized for the roll out of EV charging infrastructure...the ROI isn't there to put them anywhere near the front of the line.
I won't get into definitions of "fair" because that's, IMO, the valid focus point of argument for tax policy. But it's also totally off topic to this thread.
The problem with Musk is that he apparently believes he shouldn't have to pay any kind of tax ever. Or if he doesn't believe that, his tweets on the subject imply that he does.
musk's hate for anything regulatory extends well past the tax code. labor laws? bah. decades old safety requirements? hogwash. market manipulation and insider trading? poppycock.
My first thought is to agree that the 100% 2035 thing is overly ambitious and unrealistic. And I do, mostly, agree that it's unlikely to happen.
But, IMO, a lot of surge in EV popularity, and the resulting surge in automakers ramping up EV development, is driven less by logic and more by market forces. It's the hottest new thing and a way of enticing customers to buy something.
So... if money keeps being poured into EV adoption, I won't be shocked if we get pretty close to 100% (of new car sales) by 2035. Driven mostly by the economics of it for automakers.
OTOH, I expect some automakers will continue to make and sell gas vehicles (in small numbers) past the 2035 date. I'm thinking of exotic sports cars.
And for sure some states will see less rapid adoption - which is sensible, IMO.
I'd differentiate between the shares he sells to cover the withholdings on his option exercise and those of his current holdings. I don't read any implications on the withholding part.
And I was also referring to the article's author's advocacy of the Sanders position. I'll refer you to the lead editorial in today's WSJ which points out that if passed, the proposed hikes will put the US as having the highest personal income tax rates on combined federal/state taxes in the industrial world.
I put some miles on a Porsche Cayenne Hybrid over the weekend.
Nice car. Utterly inscrutable infotainment system.
Nice car. Utterly inscrutable infotainment system.
Lots of millionaire assembly line workers at Tesla. Safer work environment than any UAW line. Do you hate all successful entrepreneurs, or just Elon?
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He wouldn't be the first billionaire who has nothing but disdain for the little people and their plebian laws and problems. And he's not even the loudest of them (he's been Trumped in that regard).
My problem isn't with the Musks of the world. They are what they are. My problem is with the many people who heap worship and adulation on those very same billionaires who look down on them. I'll never understand that mentality.
making them rich or not, he still broke the law.
and, echoing what @mildone is saying, many of the successful tycoons out there tread on rules and regulations or at least tread in the gray areas. however, sanctifying these folks to the point of worshipping every word they type or speak is mindblowingly stupid. forget who said it earlier in the thread about Elon is just trying to make the world a better place. he's not. he's in it for profit and he'll gladly step all over anyone who's in his way to get to where he wants to be. and that's fine. it's up to the public and the governments of the world to hold him accountable for his illegal/unacceptable actions. let's not turn him into some sort of religious deity and think he can do no wrong. people aren't out there preaching the religion of jamie dimon to the masses...
You know I'm not a fan of Sanders ideological take on things. What he wants is coming eventually no matter what I want. But I'd like to see it delayed as long as possible.
I'm much more concerned with becoming more efficient in how we go about spending tax money than what the rates are at any given time. I have never once in my life actually felt the impact of tax policy changes in my day to day life. Up, down, it has never mattered to me. I can see the impacts on my tax returns. But it's just numbers. It never results in changes to my spending habits or lifestyle. I make the necessary changes to investments and savings and life goes on.
Also, I've seen enough to know that worrying over a change in either direction is silly. It's just gonna change in the opposite direction soon anyway.
That last thing will probably change when the participation rate falls drastically. But we'll cross that bridge when we get there. And I don't think we're there quite yet (but soon).
we don't see any accountability for what happens after tax policy is passed. without delving too far into politics, neither political party in this country wants to spend less. tax cut or tax hike, spending goes up. maximizing value of dollars spent is non-existent. bringing the conversation back to EV's...hopefully, with the infrastructure bill in place, the general public will start seeing something tangible in terms of investment towards an acceleration of EV adoption. we need a lot of infrastructure in place in order to make the EV reality happen.
And still, Tesla workers aren't unionizing.
Amazing how you know the thoughts and intentions of another person.
In 2002 Elon sold Paypal for $165 million. Why isn't he on some tropical island somewhere? Why bother to use that windfall to start 2 companies which were both likely to fail?
People should hold all politicians responsible for intelligently executing the infrastructure bill's spending (by which I mean hold their congress-people responsible).
But we won't do that. People will only seek to hold the politicians of the party to which they don't belong responsible. As always.
Or am I being too pessimistic?
I'd read that about the infotainment system. I believe it. My take on Porsche's tech is that it is not often intuitive to use, but that once one sits around in their garage and works through all the systems, and reads the literature a couple times, and plays with it a bunch, and then spends time online resolving some of the ambiguities, it actually starts making sense and is, in hindsight, logically designed.
It's just never very intuitively designed. Which is very odd to me since the cars themselves get so much right, much of it intuitive, about the experience. But they can't figure out how to carry that over to their tech. Go figure.
nope. pragmatic and cynical? yes. pessimistic, no. i fall in the same camp.People should hold all politicians responsible for intelligently executing the infrastructure bill's spending (by which I mean hold their congress-people responsible).
But we won't do that. People will only seek to hold the politicians of the party to which they don't belong responsible. As always.
Or am I being too pessimistic?
engineers and UX designers don't get along. engineers think they know UX. engineers overcomplicate things, leading to bad UX.
some people are just natural entrepreneurs. he's a very good entrepreneur. he's just a scumbag individual that has some very Jim Jones-like behavior.
Nah. That can't be it. Would a good entrepreneur use their entire fortune to simultaneously start 2 business that were both likely to fail? You clearly know the man, his thoughts, feelings, intentions. This has to be more than just the actions of a scumbag. Please explain.
61% of all EVs in 5 states. That right there cuts completely against the Tesla phenomenon especially considering that those mid-Westerners will never replace their Ford ICEs with Teslas. They will replace them with Ford EVs.
I always find it interesting that people who bash the the government also took help from them.
the cult of tesla isn't new. there were always ford vs chevy guys, GM vs Mopar. benz vs bmw, etc etc etc. ppl who think that one car company can dominate the country, let alone the globe are really silly.
That could well be it. I see that all the time in software shops. But it didn't really occur to me that Porsche might just need to hire some more UX people for their infotainment design team.
The mechanical controls are generally pretty good and intuitive (minus the frunc release system, which is flat-out stupid). But as Bleem states, the digital controls are not particularly intuitive, only starting to make sense after some time investment. And the sorts of problems do reek of engineer-think rather than UX think.
To be fair, I don't really know what I'd be like as a billionaire. I would like to think I'd at least pay lip service to doing the right things and being a team player. But I'm already not much of a team player and I don't have a billion dollars. So... I might be pretty scumbaggy. I'd like to think not. But who knows.
One thing I do know. I would go to great lengths to prevent cultish behavior aimed at me. I find such attitudes incredibly undignified and wouldn't want any part of it.