OT: LeBron James' Son, Bronny, Suffers Cardiac Arrest During Workout at USC

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AshCatchEm

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Conspiracy theorists are meeting up in private chat as we speak.
Scientific evidence of an increase in heart issues= conspiracy. You sound like an anti science nut.

Fyi the j+j vaccine is no longer available in the United states. Why, you ask? Well, it's specifically banned due to GASP heart issues! What nonsense!

Lemming. Just run off the cliff with a smile on your face. People that trust everything they have been told are dumber than dirt.
 

FmrMgrRU

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Apparently happened to another freshman on their team last year preseason also.
 

IL Lusciato

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Right wing: Climate change is a myth, vaccine deaths are fact.

Left Wing: Climate change is fact, vaccine deaths are a myth.

Sound about right?

Yup.

Fwiw COVID itself causes cardiac problems.

I had an episode of AFIB in September of 2020, before having any vaccine but after having had COVID. No one will ever be sure if COVID caused it, and I did have a history of atrial flutter, but it is what it is.

Now, whether COVID vaccines can cause cardiac issues, and whether they are the sole reason for deaths other than cardiac issues is a whole different issue, and I'm sure we are several years out from understanding the risks, what groups are at risk, etc.

But, it's naive to ignore that vaccines could cause problems, and also flagrantly bad logic and science to assume that every young person having a health issue must be due to a vaccine.
 

AshCatchEm

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Yup.

Fwiw COVID itself causes cardiac problems.

I had an episode of AFIB in September of 2020, before having any vaccine but after having had COVID. No one will ever be sure if COVID caused it, and I did have a history of atrial flutter, but it is what it is.

Now, whether COVID vaccines can cause cardiac issues, and whether they are the sole reason for deaths other than cardiac issues is a whole different issue, and I'm sure we are several years out from understanding the risks, what groups are at risk, etc.

But, it's naive to ignore that vaccines could cause problems, and also flagrantly bad logic and science to assume that every young person having a health issue must be due to a vaccine.
It's a proven issue. With scientific study. I love the extent people go to in order to ignore all these young healthy athletes having heart issues.
 

IL Lusciato

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It's a proven issue. With scientific study. I love the extent people go to in order to ignore all these young healthy athletes having heart issues.

Chill out Pokémon boy. The fact is that a young athlete having a heart issue is not necessarily or automatically directly related to a vaccine when you don't even know if he'd been vaccinated, let alone what caused it.
 

brgRC90

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Scientific evidence of an increase in heart issues= conspiracy. You sound like an anti science nut.

Fyi the j+j vaccine is no longer available in the United states. Why, you ask? Well, it's specifically banned due to GASP heart issues! What nonsense!

Lemming. Just run off the cliff with a smile on your face. People that trust everything they have been told are dumber than dirt.
Covid also causes cardiac and other problems, even long after an infection is gone, as is the case with many viruses and bacteria.
 

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Yup.

Fwiw COVID itself causes cardiac problems.

I had an episode of AFIB in September of 2020, before having any vaccine but after having had COVID. No one will ever be sure if COVID caused it, and I did have a history of atrial flutter, but it is what it is.

Now, whether COVID vaccines can cause cardiac issues, and whether they are the sole reason for deaths other than cardiac issues is a whole different issue, and I'm sure we are several years out from understanding the risks, what groups are at risk, etc.

But, it's naive to ignore that vaccines could cause problems, and also flagrantly bad logic and science to assume that every young person having a health issue must be due to a vaccine.
I correctly predicted 2+ years ago that this would be the company line

Any other viruses cause long term heart problems? I've gotten the flu many times in addition to colds. Probably others as well. I don't recall my doctor telling me, "Moose, you're over this virus but in its wake you can have heart issues. You may wanna get it checked periodically". NJ has a lot of big pharma companies and thus BP employees so I sense a lot of denial and circling the wagons.
 

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I correctly predicted 2+ years ago that this would be the company line

Any other viruses cause long term heart problems? I've gotten the flu many times in addition to colds. Probably others as well. I don't recall my doctor telling me, "Moose, you're over this virus but in its wake you can have heart issues. You may wanna get it checked periodically". NJ has a lot of big pharma companies and thus BP employees so I sense a lot of denial and circling the wagons.
I don't engage in these debates, but you kind of give up the game when your response is basically "Covid is just like the flu or a cold".
 

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I correctly predicted 2+ years ago that this would be the company line

Any other viruses cause long term heart problems? I've gotten the flu many times in addition to colds. Probably others as well. I don't recall my doctor telling me, "Moose, you're over this virus but in its wake you can have heart issues. You may wanna get it checked periodically". NJ has a lot of big pharma companies and thus BP employees so I sense a lot of denial and circling the wagons.

Most viruses and the flu have been linked to clotting and / or heart issues due to inflammation. You can find well documented evidence of this written before covid. We just don’t talk about it because we’ve all had so many flus, colds that we have a good feel for the risk and don’t bother thinking about the very low % downside scenarios. And though I don’t know this part for sure, it’s easier to imagine we’re a bit more resilient to these ‘legacy’ illnesses given we’ve had many years of exposure to them.
 
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IL Lusciato

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I correctly predicted 2+ years ago that this would be the company line

Any other viruses cause long term heart problems? I've gotten the flu many times in addition to colds. Probably others as well. I don't recall my doctor telling me, "Moose, you're over this virus but in its wake you can have heart issues. You may wanna get it checked periodically". NJ has a lot of big pharma companies and thus BP employees so I sense a lot of denial and circling the wagons.

What are you talking about? COVID provenly causes cardiac issues. I had my heart issues prior to any vaccine, as did many other people.
 

fsg2_rivals

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I correctly predicted 2+ years ago that this would be the company line

Any other viruses cause long term heart problems? I've gotten the flu many times in addition to colds. Probably others as well. I don't recall my doctor telling me, "Moose, you're over this virus but in its wake you can have heart issues. You may wanna get it checked periodically". NJ has a lot of big pharma companies and thus BP employees so I sense a lot of denial and circling the wagons.
Was it a people doctor or a horse doctor?

Be honest.
 
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I correctly predicted 2+ years ago that this would be the company line

Any other viruses cause long term heart problems? I've gotten the flu many times in addition to colds. Probably others as well. I don't recall my doctor telling me, "Moose, you're over this virus but in its wake you can have heart issues. You may wanna get it checked periodically". NJ has a lot of big pharma companies and thus BP employees so I sense a lot of denial and circling the wagons.
I Did GIF
 

Retired711

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Calm down, everybody. There have been a number of cases of basketball players collapsing because of cardiac issues. The case that comes to mind for me is Hank Gathers at Loyola of L.A. who died in 1989 (long before Covid) of exercise-induced cardiac problems. This has nothing to do with Covid.
 
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tico brown

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Calm down, everybody. There have been a number of cases of basketball players collapsing because of cardiac issues. The case that comes to mind for me is Hank Gathers at Loyola of L.A. who died in 1989 (long before Covid) of exercise-induced cardiac problems. This has nothing to do with Covid.
Didn’t this happen to Reggie Lewis as well?
 

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Right wing: Climate change is a myth, vaccine deaths are fact.

Left Wing: Climate change is fact, vaccine deaths are a myth.

Sound about right?


No. Climate change is real and the main cause is liberal policies. Dems destroyed the walkable and energy efficient cities which pushed the masses to the suburbs where they need cars.
 
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Musk is pushing the misinformation but it’s his right. He said it could be from the vaccine or it might not be from the vaccine. that’s X for you.
 
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