OT: My Son Is Accepted To Rutgers!!!

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Proud? Proud? What’s this proud nonsense?

When my kids went through all that acceptance crap, I was pissed off at myself for not having successfully sold them before I‘d have to start paying for college. Screw proud. I never shoulda let their mom talk me out of it.

Little extreme when all you had to is teach them to long snap.
 
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mdk02

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Congrats to all who have kids accepted to RU. My son was also accepted yesterday. Similar to OP, he was brought up with RU...going to football games since the year he was born...season tickets to FB his whole life and BB for several years. He bleeds scarlet. BUT...there's a good chance he will choose another school. The southeast scenery is so enticing and there are so many good schools. I will be a little sad if he doesn't choose RU, but also really happy for him where ever he chooses. Good luck to everyone on admissions and, more importantly, their decisions.

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Proud? Proud? What’s this proud nonsense?

When my kids went through all that acceptance crap, I was pissed off at myself for not having successfully sold them before I‘d have to start paying for college. Screw proud. I never shoulda let their mom talk me out of it.
I wanted to say that but I thought it rude
 
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Little extreme when all you had to is teach them to long snap.
Yes, I see your point. Teaching them that would help them make money and save me some tuition costs.

But selling my daughter alone to a Saudi prince coulda netted me $5M or so. Obviously the boys wouldn’t have fetched quite so much. I should’ve sold their mom, first. That was my strategic mistake.
 

mdk02

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Yes, I see your point. Teaching them that would help them make money and save me some tuition costs.

But selling my daughter alone to a Saudi prince coulda netted me $5M or so. Obviously the boys wouldn’t have fetched quite so much. I should’ve sold their mom, first. That was my strategic mistake.

But having your daughter long snap for Rutgers might make more. Look at the NIL the LSU gymnast is hauling in. And faculty support for RU football would skyrocket
 

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OOS Purdue costs about 4k more than RU in state. He got money from MSU. His major is Food Science - Purdue and MSU have very strong Food Science programs - he hates the RU campus concept- he wants to explore other parts of the country and probably is enticed by doing something different than the rest of his family. I feel really good about his decision.
Had to look it up and it’s more like 8k or 28% more.

ETA: looks like there’s 2k fee added for certain majors as well.
 
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Congrats to all who have kids accepted to RU. My son was also accepted yesterday. Similar to OP, he was brought up with RU...going to football games since the year he was born...season tickets to FB his whole life and BB for several years. He bleeds scarlet. BUT...there's a good chance he will choose another school. The southeast is so enticing and there are so many good schools. I will be a little sad if he doesn't choose RU, but also really happy for him where ever he chooses. Good luck to everyone on admissions and, more importantly, their decisions.
I truly don't get what's so enticing about the southeast. Less job opportunities. Less diversity. Lower salaries. Your friends will be from a different state. Makes no sense.
 
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Mine too - was sweating it out as RU was much slower than usual this year he did not want to be the only family member to not get in (mom, dad, big brother and grandpa are all scarlet knights). Unfortunately it looks like he’s going to buck the trend and is headed to Purdue or Michigan State. At least he’s staying in the B1G.
As Billy Crystal’s character said in “When Harry Met Sally”: both B1G schools.

So it counts.🙂
 

mdk02

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I truly don't get what's so enticing about the southeast. Less job opportunities. Less diversity. Lower salaries. Your friends will be from a different state. Makes no sense.

Less job opportunities? Ever heard of the Research Triangle? Lower salaries? Try comparing how much house you can by with that lower salary. I'm not saying there are not loads of opportunities in NJ and the Northeast. But I think you've been watching too much of Swamp People and Duck Dynasty
 

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Less job opportunities? Ever heard of the Research Triangle? Lower salaries? Try comparing how much house you can by with that lower salary. I'm not saying there are not loads of opportunities in NJ and the Northeast. But I think you've been watching too much of Swamp People and Duck Dynasty
Research Triangle can't touch NYC. No chance.
 
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Research Triangle can't touch NYC. No chance.

Not everyone ultimately wants the city life. I have worked in NYC for 25+ years and I hate it. We have encouraged our kids to get out of NJ and go experience. If my daughter ends up at RU I hope she likes it. But if she wants to go somewhere else I’ll support that too. I don’t need my kids to have the same experience I did. That’s weak parenting.
 
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Had to look it up and it’s more like 8k or 28% more.

ETA: looks like there’s 2k fee added for certain majors as well.
yeah, I might have been comparing Purdue tuition, Room and board to RU total cost by mistake. Purdue is still a very good value OOS compared to Maryland, Wisconsin, MSU & OSU
 
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I truly don't get what's so enticing about the southeast. Less job opportunities. Less diversity. Lower salaries. Your friends will be from a different state. Makes no sense.
Couple things here. You can come back to work if you want NY/NJ pay...don't have to stay down there for the rest of your life. But there are some great places to spend four years getting a great education. Almost every school is less diverse than Rutgers...but Rutgers does not represent the US or even NJ population in terms of its student body. There are tons of NJ kids at most of the SE schools. I think it can make a ton of sense. Visit some of these campuses and you will see what entices the NE kids. Campuses are beautiful, weather is great, sports are huge, education is great. I love RU...but I can certainly see what's so enticing.
 

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Whole college acceptance process is ridiculous and it’s about padding stats. My daughter is a senior. D1 athlete, near perfect student, #1 in her class. I told her to apply to some schools that haven’t offered her a soccer scholarship “just in case”. She got deferred from Richmond and that was her safety school. Asked guidance why and their response was you are over overqualified. They know you won’t go there and that hurts their stats if admitted. If you change your status to early admit 2 they will accept you tomorrow. So stupid
 

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Research Triangle can't touch NYC. No chance.
Sometimes it helps to step outside of an echo chamber. Having lived in NC, there is a lot to like in the South. Like Waffle House. NYC is no paradise. The commute sucks. And so did many other aspects. I left the city after less than 1 year and was much happier. Different people want different things in life
 

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I personally. Can’t wait not to pay 32k property taxes to live in a better climate. Pretty sure ok can do well in Charlotte banking
Maybe it has changed, but Charlotte was a soulless awful place in the 1990s. Liked RTP better. Wilmington, NC, while much smaller was fantastic.

And $32K in property taxes? WTH? We moved at least once to lower our property taxes down to around $10-12K, and we live in a decent town and have a nice house. OTOH, our vacation house is nicer than our main house, and the property taxes are around $2K.
 
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yeah, I might have been comparing Purdue Room and board to RU total cost by mistake. Purdue is still a very good value OOS compared to Maryland, Wisconsin, MSU & OSU

Purdue hasn't raised tuition in close to a decade.
 

mdk02

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Not everyone ultimately wants the city life. I have worked in NYC for 25+ years and I hate it. We have encouraged our kids to get out of NJ and go experience. If my daughter ends up at RU I hope she likes it. But if she wants to go somewhere else I’ll support that too. I don’t need my kids to have the same experience I did. That’s weak parenting.

Notice that the comparable housing costs went untouched. Some people think that just because they like their location that everywhere else sucks.
 

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Purdue in 22-23 in state tuition room & board $22812

Purdue OOS $42614

Hopefully those going to Miami don't intend to be engineering majors.
IIRC, RU in state total cost is $31,000.

$44,000 over 4 years is not much, especially if Purdue opens more doors and leads to better career opportunities. That may or may not be the case, depending on the program. But to dismiss Purdue out of hand because it costs more is short sighted.
 

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IIRC, RU in state total cost is $31,000.

$44,000 over 4 years is not much, especially if Purdue opens more doors and leads to better career opportunities. That may or may not be the case, depending on the program. But to dismiss Purdue out of hand because it costs more is short sighted.
Rutgers needs to do better teaching math 😀. Between this and everyone thinking 1.85mm is the essentially the same as 1.4mm,
 

mdk02

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IIRC, RU in state total cost is $31,000.

$44,000 over 4 years is not much, especially if Purdue opens more doors and leads to better career opportunities. That may or may not be the case, depending on the program. But to dismiss Purdue out of hand because it costs more is short sighted.

In fairness, Purdue is a outlier. Mitch Daniels has concentrated on keeping costs, especially administrative bloat, down.
 

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I'm taking receipts for everyone that complains that Rutgers can't keep the top student athletes home. You all showing yourselves here.
 
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I'm taking receipts for everyone that complains that Rutgers can't keep the top student athletes home. You all showing yourselves here.
It's reality. We don't necessarily like it, but think about this: my son absolutely LOVES Rutgers...a fan since he understood sports. He lives and breathes RU sports. But when it comes to enrolling, he might choose elsewhere. Winters here are cold...Rutgers campus is spread out...busses to class suck...the list can go on and on. Rutgers has a lot of warts when you look at it objectively. I would prefer he go to RU for a lot of reasons, but he'll make a choice and there are a lot of great and attractive options.
 

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Not everyone ultimately wants the city life. I have worked in NYC for 25+ years and I hate it. We have encouraged our kids to get out of NJ and go experience. If my daughter ends up at RU I hope she likes it. But if she wants to go somewhere else I’ll support that too. I don’t need my kids to have the same experience I did. That’s weak parenting.

If I were starting uni these days I would not only leave the area I would leave the country.
Most people don't realize that foreign universities are often cheaper than US, and the experience can be better.
My current fav is University of Edinburgh in Scotland.
Its the second most popular uni in the UK and is considered prestigious at home and abroad, yet it would cost (as foreign student) around half of what Notre Dame costs.
They admit around 40% of applicants depending on area of study (and you pick a focus/major early)
There are over 30k students and the city is amazing
Students bond differently there and they support each other compared to US.
Plus I could work on a faux Brit accent.
I know a girl who went to Edinburgh and her time was amazing
Of course there are more unis than Edinburgh, and foreign study in many places has advantages.
I'm down on US colleges for many reasons right now
 
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Not everyone ultimately wants the city life. I have worked in NYC for 25+ years and I hate it. We have encouraged our kids to get out of NJ and go experience. If my daughter ends up at RU I hope she likes it. But if she wants to go somewhere else I’ll support that too. I don’t need my kids to have the same experience I did. That’s weak parenting.

I've got you beat, I commuted over 50 years into Manhattan. Granted 30 years were by car and I basically made my own schedule . Everyone defends their decisions since it's their decision but unless you want to live in a bubble you've got to learn to live in a diverse society and one important thing RU gives you is diversity. I would also say that most in my generation never experienced the current BS in the college application process and paying someone a couple of thousand dollars for guidance in applying was unheard of. Heck my parents didn't even know what a college application was. It's honestly obscene the pressure put on kids. I'd venture to say many this past week have experienced a lot of depression and mental strain. So self inflicted . I can't believe the number of kids who are playing sports or doing other activities
not for the joy of it but because their parents see it as road for college admission.
 

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Rutgers needs to do better teaching math 😀. Between this and everyone thinking 1.85mm is the essentially the same as 1.4mm,
I see what you did there, but they are two different things, aren't they?
And for families making well into 6 figures who have saved wisely for their children's college education, $44,000 is not a lot of money. Is it a lot of money for families and students who can barely afford Rutgers and in-state tuition? Sure it is.

But back to your $1.4M/1.85M comparison, at a certain income point, there is not a huge difference. For Kirk C (that's what this was about) who is in that late stage of his life earning potential, a superficial analysis of his take home pay is only a difference of $200K. Yeah, $200K is a lot of money. But depending on his tax situation and what type of house he buys, etc. that may or may not be a lot of money to him, especially if one job is better than the other. In some cases the higher-paying job is the "better" job, and in others, the lower-paying job is the better job.
And in the absolute middle of nowhere. Yikes.
Your homerism shines through with each successive post. It's college and a college town. It's 4 years of a young person's life. Watching this video, in all truthfulness, it looks to be a lot nicer than downtown New Brunswick when you take off your scarlet-colored glasses.

And Purdue is 120 miles from Chicago. Maybe you have heard of it. It's a big city like NYC. One can drive to Chicago in under 2 hours. It takes an hour plus to get to NYC from Cook Campus.

You do realize that for someone from NJ, they will be "home" on winter and summer breaks, and many tech companies will be lined up to hire Purdue engineering and STEM students. Such a parochial view of life you have.



I'm taking receipts for everyone that complains that Rutgers can't keep the top student athletes home. You all showing yourselves here.
Wut? Are we talking top students or top athletes? With some rare exceptions, they are mutually exclusive. Top students may wish to go somewhere else than stay close to home.
 

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I've got you beat, I commuted over 50 years into Manhattan. Granted 30 years were by car and I basically made my own schedule . Everyone defends their decisions since it's their decision but unless you want to live in a bubble you've got to learn to live in a diverse society and one important thing RU gives you is diversity. I would also say that most in my generation never experienced the current BS in the college application process and paying someone a couple of thousand dollars for guidance in applying was unheard of. Heck my parents didn't even know what a college application was. It's honestly obscene the pressure put on kids. I'd venture to say many this past week have experienced a lot of depression and mental strain. So self inflicted . I can't believe the number of kids who are playing sports or doing other activities
not for the joy of it but because their parents see it as road for college admission.

Agree completely. My mom worked at RU so I was always going there. My parents recently commented that they don’t even remember me applying let alone helping me with the application, etc. It’s totally different now. Some of it is parent driven but it’s also a function of social media and peers. There’s so much out there about the college admission process.

BTW, my oldest is a D1 recruit (track) and has some very good opportunities because of it but it’s not really a significant factor in her decision making process.
 
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bitnez

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I see what you did there, but they are two different things, aren't they?
And for families making well into 6 figures who have saved wisely for their children's college education, $44,000 is not a lot of money. Is it a lot of money for families and students who can barely afford Rutgers and in-state tuition? Sure it is.

But back to your $1.4M/1.85M comparison, at a certain income point, there is not a huge difference. For Kirk C (that's what this was about) who is in that late stage of his life earning potential, a superficial analysis of his take home pay is only a difference of $200K. Yeah, $200K is a lot of money. But depending on his tax situation and what type of house he buys, etc. that may or may not be a lot of money to him, especially if one job is better than the other. In some cases the higher-paying job is the "better" job, and in others, the lower-paying job is the better job.

Your homerism shines through with each successive post. It's college and a college town. It's 4 years of a young person's life. Watching this video, in all truthfulness, it looks to be a lot nicer than downtown New Brunswick when you take off your scarlet-colored glasses.

And Purdue is 120 miles from Chicago. Maybe you have heard of it. It's a big city like NYC. One can drive to Chicago in under 2 hours. It takes an hour plus to get to NYC from Cook Campus.

You do realize that for someone from NJ, they will be "home" on winter and summer breaks, and many tech companies will be lined up to hire Purdue engineering and STEM students. Such a parochial view of life you have.




Wut? Are we talking top students or top athletes? With some rare exceptions, they are mutually exclusive. Top students may wish to go somewhere else than stay close to home.


My nephew is in the aeronautical engineering program at Purdue. It’s an excellent engineering school.
 
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Whole college acceptance process is ridiculous and it’s about padding stats. My daughter is a senior. D1 athlete, near perfect student, #1 in her class. I told her to apply to some schools that haven’t offered her a soccer scholarship “just in case”. She got deferred from Richmond and that was her safety school. Asked guidance why and their response was you are over overqualified. They know you won’t go there and that hurts their stats if admitted. If you change your status to early admit 2 they will accept you tomorrow. So stupid
Well, she really had no intention of going there did she. Why should they defer someone else to hold a spot that won't be taken?
 
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Less job opportunities? Ever heard of the Research Triangle? Lower salaries? Try comparing how much house you can by with that lower salary. I'm not saying there are not loads of opportunities in NJ and the Northeast. But I think you've been watching too much of Swamp People and Duck Dynasty

Most of these kids are not going to UNC or Duke. They are going to Clemson or Coastal Carolina. And they will be back here, and employers will not be impressed.
 
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Maybe it has changed, but Charlotte was a soulless awful place in the 1990s. Liked RTP better. Wilmington, NC, while much smaller was fantastic.

And $32K in property taxes? WTH? We moved at least once to lower our property taxes down to around $10-12K, and we live in a decent town and have a nice house. OTOH, our vacation house is nicer than our main house, and the property taxes are around $2K.

It's very easy and lazy to say "muh property taxes" in NJ when lots of towns have lower taxes. The shore region generally is on the lower side. And, for example, property taxes in Texas are very high. In both NJ and TX it's often in places where parents have high standards for their public schools.

But it's much easier just to gripe and promote a narrative.