OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread

yesrutgers01

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So- currently- we have a 2B at 1B, 2B at 2B, 2B at 3B, 2B at LF and 2B for most of our bench and 2B for most of our prospects.....

I think I see the plan...Outside of catcher, traditionally the weakest hitting position should field all of our spots...
 

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Help an old guy out here. 🙂
It stand for weighted runs created. In my mind and a lot of others the best hitting metric. 100 is average. Takes into account everything a hitter does and weights against all others and also includes park factors. Very similar to OPS+.
 

yesrutgers01

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I am so glad a good hitter is no longer a good hitter and a bad hitter is no longer a bad hitter...

What is the wRC+ or what ever it is - for Alonso or Nimmo last year. Please tell me Polanco does not have better than both?
 

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I am so glad a good hitter is no longer a good hitter and a bad hitter is no longer a bad hitter...

What is the wRC+ or what ever it is - for Alonso or Nimmo last year. Please tell me Polanco does not have better than both?
Lol that's not what anyone has said.

Alonso was better last year. Polanco better than Nimmo.

Similar to OPS+, Weighted Runs Created Plus (wRC+) measures how a player’s wRC compares with league average after controlling for park effects. League average for position players is 100, and every point above 100 is a percentage point above league average. For example, a 125 wRC+ means a player created 25% more runs than a league average hitter would have in the same number of plate appearances. Similarly, every point below 100 is a percentage point below league average, so a 80 wRC+ means a player created 20% fewer runs than league average.

wRC+ is park and league-adjusted, allowing one to to compare players who played in different years, parks, and leagues. Want to know how Ted Williams compares with Albert Pujols in terms of offensive abilities? This is your statistic. wRC+ is the most comprehensive rate statistic used to measure hitting performance because it takes into account the varying weights of each offensive action and then adjusts them for the park and league context in which they took place[\quote]
 

yesrutgers01

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Lol that's not what anyone has said.

Alonso was better last year. Polanco better than Nimmo.
Yes, last year- Polanco would be considered better per plate appearance except he doesn't play as much and for the career, Nimmo has been slightly better. But let's say he is better- his run prevention is similar to both Nimmo and Alonso- so really, Stearns just went cheap. Polanco/semien is not a positive yet. We just have second basemen playing every position.
 

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Yes, last year- Polanco would be considered better per plate appearance except he doesn't play as much and for the career, Nimmo has been slightly better. But let's say he is better- his run prevention is similar to both Nimmo and Alonso- so really, Stearns just went cheap. Polanco/semien is not a positive yet. We just have second basemen playing every position.
I only showed offensively he was better than Nimmo last year. They've both been hurt a lot in their careers. I think having Polanco on 2 years is better than Nimmo on 5 more considering injuries. Defensively I agree Polanco at 1B will be a question mark so it doesn't explain the run prevention comments. Wondering then if he DH's more and they're looking to move Vientos? I also think it's that Stearns doesn't like making long term deals unless they're unicorns for a lack of a better word. He doesn't mind giving money but he doesn't want to be locked up on years long term so there's more constant roster flexibility.

We can take it move by move but as I've been saying there's so much off-season left that we need to see what we end up with.

I appreciate your longer response this morning and I hope to address everything but I've been on my phone so writing so much on here hasn't worked out yet.
 
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yesrutgers01

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I only showed offensively he was better than Nimmo last year. They've both been hurt a lot in their careers. I think having Polanco on 2 years is better than Nimmo on 5 more considering injuries. Defensively I agree Polanco at 1B will be a question mark so it doesn't explain the run prevention comments. Wondering then if he DH's more and they're looking to move Vientos? I also think it's that Stearns doesn't like making long term deals unless they're unicorns for a lack of a better word. He doesn't mind giving money but he doesn't want to be locked up on years long term so there's more constant roster flexibility.

We can take it move by move but as I've been saying there's so much off-season left that we need to see what we end up with.

I appreciate your longer response this morning and I hope to address everything but I've been on my phone so writing so much on here hasn't worked out yet.
Polanco vs Nimmo. 2 years vs 5 is fair. It does seem like that is the theme with Stearns.
I was never a fan of Nimmo’s contract in the first place. And interesting on what Stearns is also doing. He is getting “decent” players with 2 years left but they are also on the older side. This way, if the do very well, he is in position to do an another team friendly short term contract.
The problem is- he just never tells the truth. Don’t give us the run prevention mantra. It is all about contracts and control.
Polanco doesn’t move the needle much. Semien is run prevention but only moves the needle if his bat is better this year. Currently, our lineup sucks.
Now, if he only makes these type of moves “again” with the pitching staff, then our team is worse. At some point- he needs to get a stud or two pitching.
 

yesrutgers01

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To clarify, Semien has three years left, not two.
Noted…same concept.

now, would love to hear Stearns address the real run prevention- and firing the pitching coach wasn’t it.
How about our pitchers stop giving free passes to hitters?
This is the thing- I’ll give the smirking genius this off-season to make this a deep into the playoffs team. But until he addresses pitching- it just ain’t happening
 

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Noted…same concept.

now, would love to hear Stearns address the real run prevention- and firing the pitching coach wasn’t it.
How about our pitchers stop giving free passes to hitters?
This is the thing- I’ll give the smirking genius this off-season to make this a deep into the playoffs team. But until he addresses pitching- it just ain’t happening
The pitching coach and free passes were correlated. The Hefner philosophy was hit your spots, keep the ball off the barrel and in the park. If that means walking people, so be it.

And it showed. Mets were fifth in MLB in fewest HRs allowed, but third in most walks allowed.

Other pitching coaches have the exact opposite philosophy.
 

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So- currently- we have a 2B at 1B, 2B at 2B, 2B at 3B, 2B at LF and 2B for most of our bench and 2B for most of our prospects.....

I think I see the plan...Outside of catcher, traditionally the weakest hitting position should field all of our spots...
Do tell. Who is this 2B at 3B?
 
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Just for fun, here's a look at where the Mets 26 man Opening day roster might stand right now. It assumes that none of the rookie position players are ready yet. It also assumes this is the roster we are going to battle with, which of course it is not.

STARTING LINEUP (9)
Lindor SS
Semien 2B
Soto RF
Vientos DH
Polanco 1B
McNeil LF
Alvarez C
Baty 3B
Taylor CF

BENCH (4)
Torrens
Mauricio
Acuna
Bae or Young

STARTING PITCHING (6)
Senga
Peterson
McLean
Holmes
Manaea
Sproat OR Tong OR Scott

RELIEF PITCHING (7)
WIlliams
Raley
Minter (if he's ready)
Brazoban
?
??
???

This roster ain't winning anything, but I've seen worse in orange and blue.
 

yesrutgers01

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He's a 3B who had never really played 2nd before last season. Nice attempt to try to change that to fit your narrative though.
Cripes- I would hope that was obvious- a sarcastic bit just to play to that narrative. I know he is mostly 3B but trying to add aa little humore...though- sarcasim aside- the fact that he did play 2B last year and until they got Semien- that seemed it may be the narrative for this year.

But yes- I did do it to fit my narrative...pure sarcasim. wow
 

yesrutgers01

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The Stearns era is starting in earnest next season. If it was up to him, he would have dismantled this loser core 2 years ago.
The funny thing is- it is more likely we see that "loser core" in the playoffs next year with all three being core to their success than we have a chance to see The new Stearns core in the playoffs this year.

I think most fans have no issue with making changes but it just seems that he started with the wrong three. Abd pretty much gave BS reasons why for each. The only move that makes even some sense is the Nimmo move.
 
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Doctor Worm

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It seems like Stearns is signing nothing but sidekicks and no superheroes.;)
How many Robins can you sign with no Batman in sight?
Let's revisit this question in March. If it hasn't been answered by then, I'll be right there with you.

The Mets will do something. They will do a bunch of somethings. Whether or not we will like those things, remains to be seen.
 
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yesrutgers01

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It's funny - was seeing watching a pod cast that Sean Casey was on and they were talking Alonso and defense. Man- Casey got really worked up on that one. As he stated- the number one thing a 1B needs to be really good at on defense - scooping the bad throws out of the dirt. And that Pete is one of the best in baseball at this. His take- who cares if he doesnt get to a few balls out of his range if he is making the other guys look good and knocking in 120 runs.
I agree with him

With Pete- it was about the contract and I also think that Stearns does have that Ash syndrome about guys that are not his