OT: New York Mets 2025-2026 Off Season Thread

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Zak57

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I was thinking Ewing’s emergence made Jett more tradable.
Certainly did. He projects as an above average glove in CF where Jett was a little more questionable at CF.

Here is the full top 100 list if anyone is interested.


And here was Keith Law from the Athletic.

#15 Mclean
#18 Benge
#72 Tong
#98 Ewing

#45 Jett
#75 Sproat
 

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Kiley McDaniel at ESPN.

60 FV

#13 McLean

55 FV

#15 Benge
#28 Ewing (Wow high man on the pole)
#31 Tong

#32 Jett(55 FV)
#73 Sproat(50 FV)
I saw something online where one of the main guys who do these ratings(don't remember his name) but he was asked specifically about why pitchers like McLean are not top 1 or 2 with proven success to dominate already at the MLB level. And their response was that it is all about the possibility of injuries to pitchers and no other reason. Otherwise McLean and there is another pitcher who pitched very well throughout the playoffs, would be top 2.
 

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Certainly did. He projects as an above average glove in CF where Jett was a little more questionable at CF.

Here is the full top 100 list if anyone is interested.


And here was Keith Law from the Athletic.

#15 Mclean
#18 Benge
#72 Tong
#98 Ewing

#45 Jett
#75 Sproat
I would think that Ewing, Benge and the proven current roster of Lindor/Semien made both Jett and Acuna expendable.
 

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I saw something online where one of the main guys who do these ratings(don't remember his name) but he was asked specifically about why pitchers like McLean are not top 1 or 2 with proven success to dominate already at the MLB level. And their response was that it is all about the possibility of injuries to pitchers and no other reason. Otherwise McLean and there is another pitcher who pitched very well throughout the playoffs, would be top 2.

That's fair. Also position players play more so they're generally more valuable since they affect more games.
 
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Someone say Ewing ???

 

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That's fair. Also position players play more so they're generally more valuable since they affect more games.
It is completely fair but many fans don't realize this and watch a guy like McLean already dominate MLB hitters and wonder how the hell he isn't even top 5. Can't wait to see him for a full year!
 

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What are the thoughts of finishing out this club with a couple of 1 year deals that do not have qualifying offers for guys that are a little older but have proven to be able to handle NY and would not be expensive but still can produce if and when healthy at positions still of need?

Let's say a Bassitt- may only be around $14-15 mil. And either bringing Marte back(everyone says he is the real captain) and or maybe even 1 year for Goldschmidt to help at 1B? I would think both would take 1 year and most likely in the $6-7 mil range.
 

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I would say doubtful unless they make a trade. Totally made up scenario but would be like a trade Peterson or Senga for a part time LF and/or RP arm. Backfill with a FA SP.

I don't see a need for someone like Goldschmidt one bit.
 
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I would say doubtful unless they make a trade. Totally made up scenario but would be like a trade Peterson or Senga for a part time LF and/or RP arm. Backfill with a FA SP.

I don't see a need for someone like Goldschmidt one bit.
Only mentioned Goldschmidt as he would be cheap and would be a great mentor to help Polanco to transition to 1B. It could also free up the idea of using Vientos in a trade as well.

And why trade a Senga or Peterson for a PT outfield position when the guy many called captain, and who Soto loves, can be brought back for that PT role.
Senga is a guy that is going to one day, stay healthy. And when he does, he could really become super valuable. Peterson, wouldn't mind moving him.
As the possible FA SP that doesn't have a QO - Bassitt really could be a great fit. Go short term and we would be paying him less then we are paying Montas this year. :)
 

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Only mentioned Goldschmidt as he would be cheap and would be a great mentor to help Polanco to transition to 1B. It could also free up the idea of using Vientos in a trade as well.

And why trade a Senga or Peterson for a PT outfield position when the guy many called captain, and who Soto loves, can be brought back for that PT role.
Senga is a guy that is going to one day, stay healthy. And when he does, he could really become super valuable. Peterson, wouldn't mind moving him.
As the possible FA SP that doesn't have a QO - Bassitt really could be a great fit. Go short term and we would be paying him less then we are paying Montas this year. :)
Polanco doesn't need a mentor. He's already been working his *** off getting ready for 1B. I am not trading the upside of Vientos to only bring in the corpse of Goldy.

I mention those two specifically because they were rumored to be on the trading block all off-season. I see the pen as being the most weak part of the team currently so if we could deal for a high end arm using the SP depth we currently have it would be a win/win. I'm saying that's the only situation I could see them signing a lower tier FA SP because that's the scenario you asked about.

Marte signing is certainly still a possibility.
 
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Is Bassitt an upgrade over Senga or Manaea? Its not clear, as Senga and Manaea's upside/bounce back is better than the best you get from Bassitt. Further, I truly think Peterson and Holmes ran out of gas as they pitched the most innings of their careers by Mid-August they should be better this year. Plus we have Scott, Tong and Myers as depth. I would think the only two SPs that i see as an improvement on what we have is either Valdez or Gallen.
 

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Is Bassitt an upgrade over Senga or Manaea? Its not clear, as Senga and Manaea's upside/bounce back is better than the best you get from Bassitt. Further, I truly think Peterson and Holmes ran out of gas as they pitched the most innings of their careers by Mid-August they should be better this year. Plus we have Scott, Tong and Myers as depth. I would think the only two SPs that i see as an improvement on what we have is either Valdez or Gallen.
Bassitt would be used out of the bullpen.
 

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Are we assuming without any additional moves we are looking at
C- Alvarez
1B - Polanco
2B - Semien
3B - Bichette
SS - Lindor
LF - Benge/Baty
CF - Robert Jr.
RF - Soto
DH - Vientos

Bench- Torrens, Mauricio, Taylor

SP - Peralta, McLean, Senga, Manaea, Holmes, Peterson
RP - Weaver, Raley, Myers, Garcia, (unknown)
Closer - Williams

My current take- only for 2026 as I am not sure if Bichette, Robert Jr. or Peralta are Met's beyond that.

This is a team that if all goes right - it is better than what the Phillies are currently putting out there. But the Braves may have the edge on us.
It could win the division but should at least get a WC. Most likely a 88-90 win team.

I would put these players as ones that we can pretty much write these expectations in stone: Lindor- 25+HR 25+SB another top 10 MVP type season. Soto 35HR 20+SB potential top 5 MVP again. Polanco - 20+ HR, Bichette 20/20/.300

Hard to put anything in stone for pitchers but lets say Peralta with 170+ innings and under a 3.20 era and McLean 140+ innings and under 3.40 era

If these numbers happen and at least 2 or 3 others have bounce backs - we really can have a fun season. Still wish we had more protection for Soto...yes, had to say it. lol But, we look pretty solid at the moment. Just can't see a WS but you never know what could happen as long as you are in the post season.
 

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Are we assuming without any additional moves we are looking at
C- Alvarez
1B - Polanco
2B - Semien
3B - Bichette
SS - Lindor
LF - Benge/Baty
CF - Robert Jr.
RF - Soto
DH - Vientos

Bench- Torrens, Mauricio, Taylor

SP - Peralta, McLean, Senga, Manaea, Holmes, Peterson
RP - Weaver, Raley, Myers, Garcia, (unknown)
Closer - Williams

My current take- only for 2026 as I am not sure if Bichette, Robert Jr. or Peralta are Met's beyond that.

This is a team that if all goes right - it is better than what the Phillies are currently putting out there. But the Braves may have the edge on us.
It could win the division * but should at least get a WC. Most likely a 88-90 win team.

I would put these players as ones that we can pretty much write these expectations in stone: Lindor- 25+HR 25+SB another top 10 MVP type season. Soto 35HR 20+SB potential top 5 MVP again. Polanco - 20+ HR, Bichette 20/20/.300

Hard to put anything in stone for pitchers but lets say Peralta with 170+ innings and under a 3.20 era and McLean 140+ innings and under 3.40 era

If these numbers happen and at least 2 or 3 others have bounce backs - we really can have a fun season. Still wish we had more protection for Soto...yes, had to say it. lol But, we look pretty solid at the moment. + Just can't see a WS but you never know what could happen as long as you are in the post season.
* Eh. 😑

+ Neither do I.
 

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* Eh. 😑

+ Neither do I.
laughing- I think you and I are on the same page - so, the question lies...

What if
C - Alvarez
1B - Alonso
2B - Bichette
3B - Baty/Polanco
SS - Lindor
LF - Nimmo
CF - Robert J.
RF - Soto
DH - Vientos/Polanco/Baty

SP - Peralta, McLean, Senga, Manaea, Holmes, Peterson
RP - Weaver, Raley, Myers, Garcia, (unknown)
Closer - Diaz

So- this means we do not do the Nimmo trade- still trade McNeil
Bring back Alonso/Diaz
Do not Sign Williams
Still sign - Bichette, Polanco, Weaver
Still do the Peralta/Myers trade and the Robert Jr. trade
Benge gets more seasoning

I'm not sure but looks a lot more like a World Series contender for the next couple of years that may even be able to go toe to toe with the Dodgers...just saying

At least we have a casino
 

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Go read Sammon's article today. Explains everything that went down this off-season and the thinking from the organization.

I like our team as constructed better today than what you have above with the flexibility the roster brings. Better D, more flexible with positions and the younger players about to bubble up, more athletic, more balls in play. The big misstep was Diaz but again for the hundredth time they wanted him back to close and he wanted to be a Dodger. It happens.

This team is going to win more games than last year and probably more than the 2024 team as well.
 

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Go read Sammon's article today. Explains everything that went down this off-season and the thinking from the organization.

I like our team as constructed better today than what you have above with the flexibility the roster brings. Better D, more flexible with positions and the younger players about to bubble up, more athletic, more balls in play. The big misstep was Diaz but again for the hundredth time they wanted him back to close and he wanted to be a Dodger. It happens.

This team is going to win more games than last year and probably more than the 2024 team as well.
I would add that IMO, the "Diaz or Williams" question is a coin flip. Last year it was Diaz by a wide margin. But in other years it's been Williams.

If your response is "Why not Diaz AND Williams", I have no argument to that.
 
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Per SNY last night - oddsmakers have the Mets as the 3rd best team in majors with an over / under of 90.5 wins.

Dodgers are at 103 wins and Skankees are at 92 wins.
 

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I would add that IMO, the "Diaz or Williams" question is a coin flip. Last year it was Diaz by a wide margin. But in other years it's been Williams.

If your response is "Why not Diaz AND Williams", I have no argument to that.
I honestly think that was the plan but Diaz took his Dodgers offer and accepted. He wanted to be there and didn't seem to want to give the Mets a chance to match or beat for whatever reason. I think it was silly on his part but it's done so I'm not going to harp on it.
 
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I honestly think that was the plan but Diaz took his Dodgers offer and accepted. He wanted to be there and didn't seem to want to give the Mets a chance to match or beat for whatever reason. I think it was silly on his part but it's done so I'm not going to harp on it.
yes and no- my understanding that he presented his counter offer to the Met's regarding deferrals(I believe that was it) - they said no, he then sent the same to the Dodgers, they said yes. He gave the Met's the first shot at his counter and when the Dodgers said yes to all of them, he did not feel it would be right to say - thank for agreeing to everything and then try with the Met's again.
 

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Go read Sammon's article today. Explains everything that went down this off-season and the thinking from the organization.

I like our team as constructed better today than what you have above with the flexibility the roster brings. Better D, more flexible with positions and the younger players about to bubble up, more athletic, more balls in play. The big misstep was Diaz but again for the hundredth time they wanted him back to close and he wanted to be a Dodger. It happens.

This team is going to win more games than last year and probably more than the 2024 team as well.
I am putting them right in that area myself -already said between 88-90 wins. I do think they would win more if they did my moves though... ;) :p
 
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Go read Sammon's article today. Explains everything that went down this off-season and the thinking from the organization.

I like our team as constructed better today than what you have above with the flexibility the roster brings. Better D, more flexible with positions and the younger players about to bubble up, more athletic, more balls in play. The big misstep was Diaz but again for the hundredth time they wanted him back to close and he wanted to be a Dodger. It happens.

This team is going to win more games than last year and probably more than the 2024 team as well.
This team has more flexibility, but you're counting on athletic ability to make up for the lack of experience. As for now, saying better D remains to be seen.
 

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Eyewitness News had some video of the Mets shipping stuff off to Spring Training today with Mr. and Mrs. Met - a welcome site in the middle of this nasty winter. To steal from a meme sent by one of my Cubs fan pages - looking forward to warmer, longer days when my team annoys me for three hours every day!
 

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This team has more flexibility, but you're counting on athletic ability to make up for the lack of experience. As for now, saying better D remains to be seen.
Agree. I’m not sure Polanco/ Semien/ Lindor/Bichette/Baty/Robert/Sotois better defensively than Alonso/Bichette/Lindor/Baty/Nimmo/Robert/Soto
Seems to be maybe a wash as we currently have 3 players in positions they have never played before.
I do think our current team is solid. But do not feel we really have anyone that can protect Soto. Watch him have 130+ walks and HR’s drop
 
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Mcneil out of CF for a third of games is an improvement for a GG CF. GG winner at 2B now all season. Vientos off 3B for half the season is an improvement. Alonso off 1B is an improvement whether it's Polanco, Baty, or Vientos covering. Nimmo out of LF for Taylor or Benge or whoever is an improvement. The D is clearly much better.
 
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Mcneil out of CF for a third of games is an improvement for a GG CF. GG winner at 2B now all season. Vientos off 3B for half the season is an improvement. Alonso off 1B is an improvement whether it's Polanco, Baty, or Vientos covering. Nimmo out of LF for Taylor or Benge or whoever is an improvement. The D is clearly much better.
you missed the part where we still sign Robert, Bichette and Polanco. My scenario is we still sign those 3 and keep Alonso and not trade Nimmo. McNeil- still gone.

That still gives us Lindor and Bichette up the middle with Robert Jr. Baty/Polanco at 3B- which is great as they are R/L and Alonso at 1B.
 

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you missed the part where we still sign Robert, Bichette and Polanco. My scenario is we still sign those 3 and keep Alonso and not trade Nimmo. McNeil- still gone.

That still gives us Lindor and Bichette up the middle with Robert Jr. Baty/Polanco at 3B- which is great as they are R/L and Alonso at 1B.
Yes and defensive wise and roster flexibility we did better as we are today.
 
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Mcneil out of CF for a third of games is an improvement for a GG CF. GG winner at 2B now all season. Vientos off 3B for half the season is an improvement. Alonso off 1B is an improvement whether it's Polanco, Baty, or Vientos covering. Nimmo out of LF for Taylor or Benge or whoever is an improvement. The D is clearly much better.
Lindor & Semien is as good defensively as we’ve been at those spots since Ordonez & Fonzie. Add Robert in CF and the up the middle defense is arguably as good as there is in baseball.

If LF is Benge/Taylor that is a huge upgrade in defense over Nimmo. Benge has played a lot of CF so his skills should transfer well to left.

Part of what people forget with Pete is it wasn’t just the errors either with the glove or the tosses, his lack of range compared to other 1B was a problem that was only going to get worse as he ages.

Improved run prevention isn’t just about less errors. It’s also about turning a DP to get out of an inning or getting to a ball in the hole and turning it into an out instead of an infield hit.

I look forward to watching this team play defense this season.

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Lindor & Semien is as good defensively as we’ve been at those spots since Ordonez & Fonzie. Add Robert in CF and the up the middle defense is arguably as good as there is in baseball.

If LF is Benge/Taylor that is a huge upgrade in defense over Nimmo. Benge has played a lot of CF so his skills should transfer well to left.

Part of what people forget with Pete is it wasn’t just the errors either with the glove or the tosses, his lack of range compared to other 1B was a problem that was only going to get worse as he ages.

Improved run prevention isn’t just about less errors. It’s also about turning a DP to get out of an inning or getting to a ball in the hole and turning it into an out instead of an infield hit.

I look forward to watching this team play defense this season.

LGM!
What I do like is that this team does seem like the type of players that play the fundamentals correctly. But to be clear- I am not saying that we should not have signed Bichette, Polanco or even against the Nimmo trade. And since we didn't give up much for Robert, that is a good move too. And sure, Alonso is not all that great in the field. But, if we made those moves and just signed Pete back- Then the team still be better defensively then last year but still have protection for Soto. No matter how good the defense- it really is hard to replace 110 - 125 RBI

And now, more then ever- if we are going to live on defense - then Mendoza better figure out how to work the pitching staff and they cannot implode again.
 

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What I do like is that this team does seem like the type of players that play the fundamentals correctly. But to be clear- I am not saying that we should not have signed Bichette, Polanco or even against the Nimmo trade. And since we didn't give up much for Robert, that is a good move too. And sure, Alonso is not all that great in the field. But, if we made those moves and just signed Pete back- Then the team still be better defensively then last year but still have protection for Soto. No matter how good the defense- it really is hard to replace 110 - 125 RBI

And now, more then ever- if we are going to live on defense - then Mendoza better figure out how to work the pitching staff and they cannot implode again.
There was never going to be 1 guy who replaced Pete’s production. It’s about making the entire lineup better.

This will be a very different lineup than what we’re used to seeing. Bichette, Polanco and Semien ranked in the top 50 in putting the ball in play. This lineup is going to strike out a lot less than last years. More balls in play automatically create opportunities by putting pressure on the defense. While 3 run homers are more dramatic, you don’t win, especially in the post season, without being able to scratch out runs. This lineup may score more runs than last year.

I’ll agree that there were times where Mendoza made some head scratching pitching moves but, we really don’t know how much of that was just having guys with dead arms and being burnt out and how much was bad decisions. We can sit and complain over what the lineup looks like but it always comes down to pitching. I think if they get close to 500 innings from Peralta, McLean & 1 of Senga/Manaea combined, everything else falls into place.

Pitchers & catchers on Feb 11.
LGM!
 
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tell Chris that he is at least 2 months behind this information. lol
The fact that they apparently STILL have an interest is relevant. I don't quite get it though. IMHO, the remaining need is a righty bat who can play LF, which France does not.

Re-signing Marte for one year wouldn't be the worst idea in the world.
 
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Here's one man's Top 50 prospects list. Interesting that he has Pena at #4. Also interesting that he would rank Scott #4 if Scott still had rookie status.

Well he also says he isn't sure if Pena will be in the DSL this year or not but the Mets have already announced he will be stateside. You can't write about Mets prospects and expect to be taken seriously if you can't get some of the facts straight.

Also having Wenninger 39 in our system wow that's bad. This guy is a joke.
 
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