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Kbee3

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Also the concern of having a fukashima or Chernobyl. So wasn’t all bs. I thought you were referring to their recent increase in coal from the switch from Russian gas. Either way, they’re moving off of coal as are we.
Are India and China moving off of coal too ?
 
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The NYT has lost its integrity. It’s not a matter of agreeing with them. It’s them actively lying and losing all journalistic boundaries.
It basically never had any integrity. It goes back to their coverage of WW II and Nazi Germany. NYT bureau chief in Berlin, Guido Enderis, was a Nazi collaborator- went all in on the Nazis’ claim that Poland invaded Germany to spark the war in Europe in 1939.
Meh, I don’t think they actively lie. I think they’re just not informed and in many cases don’t actively pursue all facets of a story. Then there are those that actively and willfully tell falsehoods as they’re schtick. They are worse as a result.
The NYT continues to force false narratives under the heading all the news that is fit to print. It's worse than lying. See the Duke Lacrosse story and multiple others.
I would call the false allegations of marital infidelity by John McCain early in 2008 a wilfully told falsehood. My respect for Anderson Cooper went up when he reported the Times story that night on CNN, paused, and then said "you know this is awfully thinly sourced". Surprised he wasn't fired. Of course if Trump had insulted him in 2008 as opposed to 2015 the story would never have run.
Another good example. Their "reporting" during the pandemic was particularly awful and biased.
 

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Nuclear doesn't take forever to build. The gov'ment causes nuclear to take forever to build. Solve that issue and we are good to go. Start with expanding and modernizing existing sites. Pretty simple.
Please provide your home address so we know where to in the nuclear waste disposal. Dont worry the half life is about 24,000 years
 
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Even after the charges were dropped and Nifong indicted Selena Roberts wrote a NYT column saying even though they were innocent they deserved the **** they got.
I can't understand how any rational person could defend that POS, narrative-driven rag. The funny thing is many elites seem to think it some sort of bastion of excellent news reporting.

As far as the topic of this thread, I think I agree with much of what @RU4Real said (if I understand what he said correctly) is that we should do a little it of everything wrt to clean energy sources. Perhaps a minor area of disagreement, and it is minor is the phase out of petroleum products. Setting hard deadlines for phase out may not age well. As far as the rest of the world, China seems to be doing very little, as do other major countries on climate change and pollution. That's a problem.
 
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As I said, there are 54 existing sites in the US, modernize and expand with more reactors. Go from there. We can likely double or triple production.

Nice conjecture. How many GW would that produce? Is there enough land?
 

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Please provide your home address so we know where to in the nuclear waste disposal. Dont worry the half life is about 24,000 years
Sites hold most of the waste, the rest goes to Yucca Mountain, as already planned by the gov'ment. Pretty simple.
 

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I can't understand how any rational person could defend that POS, narrative-driven rag. The funny thing is many elites seem to think it some sort of bastion of excellent news reporting.

As far as the topic of this thread, I think I agree with much of what @RU4Real said (if I understand what he said correctly) is that we should do a little it of everything wrt to clean energy sources. Perhaps a minor area of disagreement, and it is minor is the phase out of petroleum products. Setting hard deadlines for phase out may not age well. As far as the rest of the world, China seems to be doing very little, as do other major countries on climate change and pollution. That's a problem.
The NYT has been a liberal rag for decades. The big change is that stopped pretending they were something else 10 or so years ago.
 

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Nice conjecture. How many GW would that produce? Is there enough land?
Plenty of land, new reactors don't require large footprints. Double the # of reactors and replace the old ones to boost efficiency. May even 4x output. Pretty simple.
 

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The NYT has been a liberal rag for decades. The big change is that stopped pretending they were something else 10 or so years ago.
As opposed to the Post and the Daily News which are straight shooters i guess ?
 

pmvon

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Relax bro, I am an all-of-the-above guy on energy, and in general a fan of cleaner and greener as I've posted many times, just skeptical on the hysteria. I'm not in the climatology field, but it's obvious how carefully that line is worded that there are questions that can be asked. So yeh, I have a natural curiosity. What are you talking about "basing human existence on wonder" haha, so dramatic.
You said you wondered what others thought. I haven’t seen a single person provide any data or point of view from a respectable scientific body that refutes the widely held climate change position.. All I see are dispersions cast that undermine the issue.

And you have no idea how bad the planet can get. Maybe not in my or your lifetime but certainly in my child’s.
 
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You said you wondered what others thought. I haven’t seen a single person provide any data or point of view from a respectable scientific body that refutes the widely held climate change position.. All I see are dispersions cast that undermine the issue.

And you have no idea how bad the planet can get. Maybe not in my or your lifetime but certainly in my child’s.
No, I said I wondered how many in the field disagreeing with the current hysteria narrative can get published. Not sure you really can tell us how bad the planet can get, in my or my kids' lifetimes.
 
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Plenty of land, new reactors don't require large footprints. Double the # of reactors and replace the old ones to boost efficiency. May even 4x output. Pretty simple.
So how many GW and would that solve the problem?
 

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The answer is no. They are not, especially India who is building new coal plants as quickly as possible. Anything the US does in the positive direction will be quickly cancelled by these two growing nations.
Yeah probably more like 50 years. What’s your point on saying anything we do will be canceled? To say it’s futile and we shouldn’t bother?
 

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So how many GW and would that solve the problem?
Nuclear power accounts for 20% of US electricity. Maxing out existing sites with new tech would likely increase this to 60-75% coverage. With the foresight and will, this can be accomplished within a decade. Shut down our existing coal plants as these new reactors come online. Win-win for everyone!
 

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Yeah probably more like 50 years. What’s your point on saying anything we do will be canceled? To say it’s futile and we shouldn’t bother?
Trying to be realistic. I support energy modernization for many reasons beyond CO2/climate change (for transparency, my priority is for the US is become 100% energy independent). However, for those that are solely focused on CO2, until we get China and India rowing in the same direction, it really is futile. Global output will not go down.
 

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Sites hold most of the waste, the rest goes to Yucca Mountain, as already planned by the gov'ment. Pretty simple.
Yucca mountain??? nevada wants nothing to do with the waste and it will never be approved there. Also the minor problem of moving Nuclear waste by truck 3000 miles. The sitting on site in concrete casks are not exactly welcome or safe either.
 
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Nuclear power accounts for 20% of US electricity. Maxing out existing sites with new tech would likely increase this to 60-75% coverage. With the foresight and will, this can be accomplished within a decade. Shut down our existing coal plants as these new reactors come online. Win-win for everyone!
If actually plausible, I’m all for it. But of course it’s probably completely unrealistic and you have zero knowledge as to whether it is plausible.
 

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Trying to be realistic. I support energy modernization for many reasons beyond CO2/climate change (for transparency, my priority is for the US is become 100% energy independent). However, for those that are solely focused on CO2, until we get China and India rowing in the same direction, it really is futile. Global output will not go down.

Well the US is already effectively independent.

So no point, might as well boil.
 

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Please provide your home address so we know where to in the nuclear waste disposal. Dont worry the half life is about 24,000 years
Why is this always the response?

I don’t think many, if any, of us live in area where zoning would permit a powerhouse, refinery, reactor, etc. in our backyard.
 
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Why is this always the response?

I don’t think many, if any, of us live in area where zoning would permit a powerhouse, refinery, reactor, etc. in our backyard.
Unfortunately NIMBYism is out of control, to the point where people complain about windmills miles out to sea and killed the use of Yucca Mountain, a remote place in one of the most sparsely populated parts of the country, as a nuclear waste storage site. Nuclear doesn't really bother me but unless someone can figure out a way to get more people to support it or make NIMBYism almost impossible it's not a viable option for massive expansion.
 
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As opposed to the Post and the Daily News which are straight shooters i guess ?
Haha.. Murdoch rag publications. Ultra right fake news with a slanted propaganda. Sensational reporting for the uneducated.
 
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