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MCRU93

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Please explain.

I do not want to speak for him but another wrinkle is that companies manufacture outside the US for part of products or for the entire product. That adds another layer into this as it's not just bringing the materials here and manufacturing in the US. Depending on the drug the sites are complex and it would be a strain to change where you manufacture.

Companies don't necessarily own their manufacturing facilities either. They could contract with facilities based on their needs, quantity, etc. But some of these manufacturing sites might just not exist in the US to where it would make sense for them to do it here
 
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I do not want to speak for him but another wrinkle is that companies manufacture outside the US for part of products or for the entire product. That adds another layer into this as it's not just bringing the materials here and manufacturing in the US. Depending on the drug the sites are complex and it would be a strain to change where you manufacture.

Companies don't necessarily own their manufacturing facilities either. They could contract with facilities based on their needs, quantity, etc. But some of these manufacturing sites might just not exist in the US to where it would make sense for them to do it here
I get it. I also work in pharma so I know how it works. my initial statement was "Raw materials for medications also come from outside the US to manufacturing plants in the US. I would assume those would have tariffs?"
Meaning, if the drug was produced somewhere else and shipped to US it may not currently have a tariff. But I know for our US plants, most RM are from outside US. I would assume they would have a tariff because its not a pharma product yet.
We have plants all over the world, like most companies.
 

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I get it. I also work in pharma so I know how it works. my initial statement was "Raw materials for medications also come from outside the US to manufacturing plants in the US. I would assume those would have tariffs?"
Meaning, if the drug was produced somewhere else and shipped to US it may not currently have a tariff. But I know for our US plants, most RM are from outside US. I would assume they would have a tariff because its not a pharma product yet.
We have plants all over the world, like most companies.

Gotcha and I agree haha same page then.

I nerd out on this side of the business so I couldn't help but jump in. Like everything within Pharma it'll be interesting how this impacts companies and also the market.
 
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S&P 500 year-end targets need a reset. Many had a 7000 target. Now 6000 might be a stretch.
Tax cuts and deregs coming next. If this is the high-water mark for tariffs and some will be negotiated downwards, YE targets for 6500-7000 are very possible.
 
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What the F are you talking about? Those were his words at his daily press conferences. You always talk about TDS, well you're just the opposite. Its not Trump right or wrong, you can still be his supporter without blindly accepting his or any politician's every word. This was not out of context, nor photoshopped, nor AI manipulated. Geez, you're such an *** with your cryptic comments with no valid counterpoints other than your stupid 1 or 2 word responses.
 
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You are such a partisan tool. Yes, he was talking about an injection inside the body of a disinfectant, not specifically bleach, but bleach is the most used disinfectant there is, so trying to argue he didn't say something monumentally stupid is ridiculous. C'mon, you won't lose your official bootlicking toady card if you criticize DJT just once.
lulZ you calling someone a partisan tool is like Bidunce calling someone senile. Trump didn't say it, and directly addressed it with the reporter. But in your warped partisan mind he didn't say bleach, specifically refuted bleach, but certainly meant bleach lol...TDS maximus. Keep swallowing what Rich Maddow is selling you fool.

Btw, I'll even give you to the end of today to man-up on the bet. #Waiting.
 

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What the F are you talking about? Those were his words at his daily press conferences. You always talk about TDS, well you're just the opposite. Its not Trump right or wrong, you can still be his supporter without blindly accepting his or any politician's every word. This was not out of context, nor photoshopped, nor AI manipulated. Geez, you're such an *** with your cryptic comments with no valid counterpoints other than your stupid 1 or 2 word responses.
what were his words and why are you using suggest
 

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Back go the stock discussion. There are a lot of buying opportunities right now if you trust we have reached the bottom. I still think we haven’t hit the bottom yet.
I'd wait until the market moves on some strong news, otherwise you'll get caught in a dead cat bounce. We need to see if this is the start of a bear market rather than just news volatility.
 

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How dare you! He’s been clamoring for decades to close those dastardly trade gaps with Loas and Vietnam. 😂🤡🤡😂
You spelled Laos wrong lol

 

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The number of people who believe that trade deficits are somehow related to budget deficits is pretty scary.

Trade deficits are not inherently bad. It means we're buying things. As long as domestic business is healthy (and it has been), trade deficits do no damage.
 
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Fox News is all pro-Trump propaganda today. OTOH, another Murdoch-owned media outlet - The WSJ - has been hammering Trump for these idiotic and self-defeating tariffs. The markets and economy will tell the true story in coming months as the impacts of these tariffs are felt.
They sure will! So will also those investments totaling in the trillions that companies are investing in America. Wealthy America is going to be so great!
 

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Halftime mentioned COST and NFLX in the green today. I assume with the notion of better bargains at COSTCO and higher income consumer and NFLX sort of being a "staple" entertainment option for a household and it has pricing power. I do think the resilient American consumer that has been keeping things afloat will show cracks in some time.

Brown also mentioned OTIS. That's one I've thought was interesting since it got spun out of former UTX some time ago. Elevators aren't going anywhere regardless of tariffs lol and 87% of their revenue comes from service income. It is a nice and steady looking chart too since the spinoff.
 
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Well folks... we have now fundamentally changed our way of doing things. After discussing with several economists and politicians, most of whom know and understand these things way more than me, I have come to a few conclusions. We are now full swing into populism and nationalism. Lots of honest and true conservatives are realizing today that there is a big difference between conservatism and populism/ nationalism. Most are probably having buyer's remorse. But I digress.

In terms of the stock market, this is going to fundamentally change the way we think about the market. We are doing a 180 degree turn from globalism. No one really knows how this will affect the stock market a year from now. I have a strong feeling that these tariffs are not a negotiation tool, but rather a way to bring manufacturing back to the USA and attempt to revive the middle class. This has the potential to decrease the wealth gap that has been building for the past several decades. Bringing manufacturing back to the USA will however result in decreased consumption particularly due to increased costs. There is no way we will be able to produce things as cheaply as China, etc. even with these robots (which are still a pipe dream) as being discussed by Howard Lutnick. Interestingly with decreased consumption, it may end up saving the environment. There is likely to be a recession in the next 1 year and there is almost no guarantee that we will come out the other end better off than we are today.

My advice is to look for companies that are heavily reliant on China, Vietnam etc. to not only produce their goods, but to sell large quantities of items and short them. Companies that are less concerned with global trade will be better off. However, no one will be spared from a downturn.
 

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Are you truly that stupid? Seriously, I'd like to know. He talked about injecting disinfectant, which is literally the single dumbest thing said by anyone during the pandemic - apart from his promise that it would just "go away." And you're defending it?

some people would say the single dumbest thing said during the pandemic was that it came from a wet market
 

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Are you truly that stupid? Seriously, I'd like to know. He talked about injecting disinfectant, which is literally the single dumbest thing said by anyone during the pandemic - apart from his promise that it would just "go away." And you're defending it?
And what "disinfectant"? Hint: it was already discussed here moron. #CatsupTime again
As somebody who sources and buys goods for company that sells to big box retail this is a disaster slept about two hours last night
Toby? oops someone mixed-up his username lol.
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There will also be a lot of companies that are going to disappear. Lots of clothing companies, retail vendors will disappear. I cannot see a company like Best Buy surviving. Walmart may not be the same. Costco will likely flourish.
 

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Brown also mentioned OTIS. That's one I've thought was interesting since it got spun out of former UTX some time ago. Elevators aren't going anywhere regardless of tariffs lol and 87% of their revenue comes from service income. It is a nice and steady looking chart too since the spinoff.
OTIS is indeed interesting but keep in mind that it's an up & down business 👊