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Jtung230

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So what are the specifics when you short? Do you agree on a timeline at the time of shorting, or can you play it by ear? How long can you be short a stock?

I haven't wanted to chase but BLNK has just kept rocketing higher. Still a small company, and I think you could get in trouble in they start signing deals with gov't agencies for large installations, but if it does have a big drop in the near future I'd probably look to get in.

Rev's nearly doubled 2019 to 2020. And are expecting to double again in 2021. Sign some big deals and that could jump by multiples.
Do you know their market share? I also find your talking points interesting. Rev doubled from 19 to 20. Rev in 20 was $5.5 million. I think this was a short squeeze play before. But I think it’s going to pop soon. You should just wait for ChargePoint to IPO if you want to invest in this space.
 
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RU05

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Do you know their market share?
I do not.

But I do see a competitor just went public via spac. Volta. Current ticker of SNPR, which will eventually trade as VLTA. Jumped about 50% on the news of the merger.

Edit: More on Volta from this article. EV Charging Company Volta Finds SPAC Deal: What Investors Should Know | Markets Insider (businessinsider.com)

"Volta estimates revenue of $47 million in fiscal 2021 and compounded annual growth of 100% from 2020 to 2025. In fiscal 2025, the company could see revenue split as 56% from charging network, 37% from behavior and commerce and 7% from data. Fiscal 2025 revenue is estimated at $826 million".


Current market cap of $615.

Compared to BLNK's estimated rev's of $11 mil in 2021, and a market cap of 2.5 b.

Also from the aricle.

"An estimated $25 billion could be spent on public EV charging stations by 2040, including President Joe Biden’s call for more than 550,000 charging stations."
 
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Jtung230

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I do not.

But I do see a competitor just went public via spac. Volta. Current ticker of SNPR, which will eventually trade as VLTA. Jumped about 50% on the news of the merger.
I edit my previous post with more info. Blink has 3% of the market and Volta has 2%.
 
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miketd1

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It's a brilliant pr and marketing move to use the hummer name. It's going to be wildly successful. And the fact that GM is finally thinking this way is why I'm bullish on their Future. I think ford **** the bed using the mustang name for a car that isn't a sports car ev. They should have used a different name for a halo effect. Hummer as an EV deserves a marketing of the year award. Complete convergence of huge badass monstrosity + EV environmentalism = huge margins on a high price vehicle.
I’ve been down on GM but I agree, they nailed the marketing here.
 

Jtung230

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I’ve been down on GM but I agree, they nailed the marketing here.
They learned a lot from TSLA. The idea of producing an affordable EV proved difficult. They will focus on their premium lineups and work their way down.
 

RU05

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I edit my previous post with more info. Blink has 3% of the market and Volta has 2%.
How bout Switchback? Also recently merged with a spac.

Edit: To your edit, what is Chargepoints market share?

Problem with the IPO's, at least recently, is by the time it's actually on the market trading, it's double it's IPO price, which was already fairly expensive.
 
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RU05

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They learned a lot from TSLA. The idea of producing an affordable EV proved difficult. They will focus on their premium lineups and work their way down.
I think coming from a different place allows them to attack ev differently. TSLA would be limited on the # of cars they sold if they only sold high end. The legacy brands can sell their EV's on the high end and still sell a ton of affordable ice cars.

Though I think the plan for the legacies, because of the chip shortage, is to limit the production of less profitable cars, in order to keep the higher ends being built. But this is a short term thing.
 

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Ok - good for you.... Still haven't stated why?

Is it because of fit and finish? Tesla's sucks btwis it because autopilot is superior? Have you compared with super cruise? Because some industry folks think it's superior.

Love your blanket statements that aren't grounded in anything real. Lol

LIfelong experience with GM, Ford and Chrysler. You can buy one if you want.
 

RU05

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Switchback went from $16 to $40 in about 3 months after it's spac merger.

VLTA currently at $16.
 

RUJohnny99

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Interesting footnote in Tesla’s 10-K regarding bitcoin.

We will account for digital assets as indefinite-lived intangible assets in accordance with ASC 350, Intangibles–Goodwill and Other. The digital assets are initially recorded at cost and are subsequently remeasured on the consolidated balance sheet at cost, net of any impairment losses incurred since acquisition. We will perform an analysis each quarter to identify impairment. If the carrying value of the digital asset exceeds the fair value based on the lowest price quoted in the active exchanges during the period, we will recognize an impairment loss equal to the difference in the consolidated statement of operations.

Heads Musk wins, Tails shareholders lose. What's the depreciation rate on their bitcoin holdings?
 

RU05

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SPAC thing scares me. It started out as a good idea but .......don’t know much about Switchback.
Where were you getting those market share #s?

Also, and this is in my edit above, do you know Chargepoints market share?
 
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T2Kplus20

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So BTC was finding support around 30K for the past month, but I wonder if, after breaking past that previous high around 42K if that will now act as the new support level.
Yeah, BTC got north of 48k and ETH broke the 1800 level. It will be interesting to see what the new floors are now. I assume it was step up to a new level, but you never know. BTC really seems to be gaining strong institutional support.
 

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Twitter CFO says that they too are considering owning BTC. Says it depends on whether vendors and employees want to use BTC in transactions.
 
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T2Kplus20

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Twitter CFO says that they too are considering owning BTC. Says it depends on whether vendors and employees want to use BTC in transactions.
Apple seems to be close to okaying BTC in transactions. Get your positions in line, may be a wild rise soon. I need to top off Argo and Galaxy today. Breaks my cost basis heart, but I can't keep waiting.
 

T2Kplus20

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I'd wait till it got to that 42ish level at least.

I'd actually wait to see if it broke through to the downside first.
If Twitter or Apple announces, it won't get down that far for a while. I'm good on GBTC and ETHE as of now, but I will have extra bullets to fire starting on Friday if/when there is a big correction.
 

Jtung230

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Twitter CFO says that they too are considering owning BTC. Says it depends on whether vendors and employees want to use BTC in transactions.
not sure that was the takeaway from that interview. To me, he said if it becomes currency, they'll allocate cash position to it. Of course, there is an article out today about the guy who bought 2 pizzas with 10k Bitcoin. Also, Fertitta said they sold 17 cars since 2018 accepting Bitcoin. It's almost like it's own worst enemy.
 

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not sure that was the takeaway from that interview. To me, he said if it becomes currency, they'll allocate cash position to it. Of course, there is an article out today about the guy who bought 2 pizzas with 10k Bitcoin. Also, Fertitta said they sold 17 cars since 2018 accepting Bitcoin. It's almost like it's own worst enemy.
Makes you wonder where it would be if it wasn't tearing itself down.
 

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If Twitter or Apple announces, it won't get down that far for a while. I'm good on GBTC and ETHE as of now, but I will have extra bullets to fire starting on Friday if/when there is a big correction.
If Twitter or, moreso Apple, were to announce this thing blasts off. Again.
 

RU05

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not sure that was the takeaway from that interview. To me, he said if it becomes currency, they'll allocate cash position to it. Of course, there is an article out today about the guy who bought 2 pizzas with 10k Bitcoin. Also, Fertitta said they sold 17 cars since 2018 accepting Bitcoin. It's almost like it's own worst enemy.
My post was definitely lacking context.
 

T2Kplus20

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They need not be. Jeremy Grantham is in on GS, that went public via SPAC. I'm sure that one is pretty solid.
Yes, of course someone with good, honest intentions can make anything work. However, this vehicle is very easy to use for shadiness. Definitely something to be careful with. Do your HW!
 

RU05

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Apple seems to be close to okaying BTC in transactions. Get your positions in line, may be a wild rise soon. I need to top off Argo and Galaxy today. Breaks my cost basis heart, but I can't keep waiting.
Not liking the lack of volume in Galaxy.

Anyone have thoughts on that?
 

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Still under the spac's ticker. SNPR. Won't switch over to VLTA for a bit.
In my experience, if I like a SPAC, I'll sell right before it merges. I may miss out on some huge gains but the ones I've sold seem to go down after the mergers. I'm all for singles and doubles, not always swinging for the fences.
 

T2Kplus20

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Careful about FOMO
Well, I have 2 phases for my crypto account. Phase 1 is 60% of funding and I would like to get this set-up as soon as possible. Very close to done with this. Phase 2 (40% of funding) will chill on the side and be used if a dip is too good to pass up. It is definitely possible that I never use Phase 2 money. We shall see!
 

RU05

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In my experience, if I like a SPAC, I'll sell right before it merges. I may miss out on some huge gains but the ones I've sold seem to go down after the mergers. I'm all for singles and doubles, not always swinging for the fences.
I got in on DNMR post merger, and even post initial run, and that one continues to do very well.

Less then 1% of portfolio allocation in these positions, so not a huge risk.

Even in the case of NKLA, or CLOV, it's not like the stocks totally collapsed. I'd actually like to be in on the former, was hoping it got down below $10 on it's most recent dip, but it rebounded. Currently around $22.